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serenade_beta · 2016-09-26, 22:48

Spoiler for final thoughts:

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2016-09-26, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Yeah... I don't know why they bothered to animate this...

First of all, this is an old manga.
If you are targeting new viewers... it obviously isn't targeting them, so let's put that aside.
If you are targeting the old viewers... You just threw them into the mess without much of anything. It's been oh-so-many years since the previous anime and people probably don't remember more than the fact the new OP is way worse than the old ones. You're not going to keep too many of them.

So... I guess the anime could be enjoyed by readers of the manga that understand what is going on and any old anime viewer that cares to give enough time to try to understand what is going on?

IIRC, they re-aired Grayman before airing Hallow in Japan. So, newcomers is very welcomed and the old fans can casually rewatch some old episodes to be reminded of the plot. No biggie.

As for the content of this arc, let's just say that this is not everyone's favorite arc in the manga, and the anime can only follow what's generally written and drawn on the manga pages. So...yeah.

Stark700 · 2016-09-27, 00:12

It was a good season overall imo. They remained faithful to most of the storytelling although it looks like they pushed the Kanda Yuu/Alma story angle.

The comedy was amusing and action was good. Wish they put more budget into some of the episodes in the latter half though. However, I think the finale ended at a good place although we'll probably get another season ...like never or in another 8+ years.

8/10. That OP theme song is also really starting to grow on me..

Mad Pierrot · 2016-09-27, 08:18

In case someone is interested: http://arystarkrory.co.vu/post/17747...w-with-hoshino

Also, even Hoshino said the Order left a really bad taste with this story arc

Guido · 2016-09-27, 14:24

Like most of you, I watched the season's finale yesterday.

There were lots of misfortunes against Allen, since everyone at the Order presumed he murdered Link and escaped seemingly with the Noah, but the truth is murkier on the deep with the appearance of Apokryphos and it chasing after Allen.

What I feel is that the story arcs following after the Alma Karma story were setting up the narrative so that the story can eventually take the audience towards the core of the mysteries on:
1. Nea's relationship with the Earl,
2. the hidden story of the Holy War that Cross cryptically warned Allen about at the start of this season,
3. and the truth about Heart and what's the Innocence.

With a big smile I can claim that Hallow's season finale ended with a high note, although Allen taking his destiny on his own matters without siding with either the Noah and the Order leaves him on a bleak path fill with the misfortune that Nea is attempting to devour him in order to be reborned again. Yet, so tragic that Allen's present situation has become he continues, nonetheless, walking forward on his own path as long as he recalls the memories of his beloved Mana, which grants the boy a tiny speck of bright hope for things to come in the future.

FlareKnight · 2016-09-27, 17:39

Yeah, well...this happened.

If nothing else this series was a lesson that good shows...sometimes should just stay classics. Probably not going to add this to the mix whenever I rewatch the show.

A lot of odd choices and rush in this thing. They did what they could with the material and the limited episode count. Could have been worse.

And yes the recasting of the voice actors sucked badly. Great way to hype up a return to a show, change the voices so everyone sounds incredibly generic.

Forever · 2016-09-28, 07:33

I can say for an old viewer I am quite satisfied with this season. I might even buy blu-ray to support in hopes of seeing the series end before I die...

Wandering Soul · 2016-09-28, 16:51

Well it's over. It was a nice ride overall. Some of the new character designs took some getting used to, but overall I can say I am satisfied with this adaption.

Kuroageha · 2016-09-28, 17:21

Hi wish this was longer but alas not enough material.

Guido · 2016-09-30, 22:34

This is the end for this season, and I'm already five shows (including this one) finished.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuroageha

Hi wish this was longer but alas not enough material.

I made the math, and had they picked-up the pace at adapting the average 2-3-4 manga chapters to a tv episode including what they left out from the manga and adding some material from the light novels, then they would have ended with around 18 episodes, that's stretching it; not enough to warrant a two cours season.

Hence, I do understand why they skipped an arc, as well as eliminating some contents and cramming too much manga material in the earlier episodes to this season's.

Besides, having a few issues with drops in animation quality from episode to episode I do not regret returning to this show. D.Gray-man is my favorite shounen anime and manga, and I'm glad my favorite characters made a comeback.

What makes me sad is that I, like everybody else who loves this show, have now to endure the endless waiting once again until the manga makes for a very significant progress so more material becomes available to warrant another sequel season in another 8+ to 20 years as much.

So, obviously, I'm returning back with my life doing and tending to my business, but still I'll have the satisfaction to rewatch D.Gray-man Hallow in two weeks from now in time for this year's Halloween season.

MgMaster · 2016-10-04, 08:39

I overall loved this season - it was so packed, maybe fast paced sure but not exactly rushed either. The character relationships & such were already established since the fairly long 1st season so they wasted no time, which was for the best considering all the reveals & twists we got - talk about curve balls.

In a way, this season could be summed up as "being Allen is suffering", yet that only makes me appreciate his character even more for walking forward despite all that. Not much of the usual shounen shenanigans "I fight for my friends!" this season either. Hell, Allen's on his own for a now - the gray in the D.Gray man becomes apparent in this season.

The Order did some nasty shit, and they're suffering the consequences of their actions now, yet when you think about it it's still the side to actually support overall because there's no better option out there(even if it's impossible for Allen right now). Like, Tykki & Road are cool & all but rooting for the Earl & his Noahs ain't exactly an option, seeing what he does with people's souls.

I'd hope the Order would see some change when it comes to the higher ups - or heck, see it reformed, but with D.Gray, you never know which curve the ball's go next, and I dread to think how long will it take for another season to grace our screens.

The most reasonable things to hope for is probably Hoshino releasing chapters more frequently.

Mad Pierrot · 2016-10-28, 13:50

I don't know if the DVDs/Blurays were delayed or simply bomb cos I can't find the cover of anyone besides the first one

Mad Pierrot · 2016-12-06, 12:24

UPDATE: Both the DVDs and Blurays were delayed. Not a single volume was released. According to the site "The Fandom Post", the reason might be due to some animation issues.

Kuroageha · 2016-12-06, 13:17

Isn't that good? It means they're fixing animation issues.

Mad Pierrot · 2017-03-01, 12:13

It's official! All DVDs and blurays were cancelled despite staff's work to improve the animation. Wonder what will happen to Funimation's release of the series

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...celled/.112834

GDB · 2017-03-01, 12:33

That... doesn't bode well for the series at all. Must've had some absolutely abysmal pre-orders to just outright cancel the releases. Like, not enough to even justify the pressing costs.

Funi will probably just use the TV versions, plus MAYBE any updates that they completed.

That said, wouldn't be surprised if, later on down the line at some point, they just release the whole season as a set like Silver Spoon season 2 did.

Mad Pierrot · 2017-08-17, 20:11

Funi just announced that they will release the first series' second half in home media release starting in October.

2016-09-26, 22:48	Link #241
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for final thoughts: Yeah... I don't know why they bothered to animate this... First of all, this is an old manga. If you are targeting new viewers... it obviously isn't targeting them, so let's put that aside. If you are targeting the old viewers... You just threw them into the mess without much of anything. It's been oh-so-many years since the previous anime and people probably don't remember more than the fact the new OP is way worse than the old ones. You're not going to keep too many of them. So... I guess the anime could be enjoyed by readers of the manga that understand what is going on and any old anime viewer that cares to give enough time to try to understand what is going on? ........Which doesn't matter, since it was just one big mess about how much of an asshole Hitler is and the large amount of guts people have to blame Alen for wanting to leave a place that finds him suspicious and locks him up. And all that was really even complete this anime was a story about Kanda and Arma... who was actually a female, but is now a male to bait fujoshi. Oh, and the voice changes. Anyways, it wasn't a bad watch. And D-Gray Man is about an ants length worth more to me than before. 'Kay. 5/10 __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2016-09-27, 00:12	Link #243
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	It was a good season overall imo. They remained faithful to most of the storytelling although it looks like they pushed the Kanda Yuu/Alma story angle. The comedy was amusing and action was good. Wish they put more budget into some of the episodes in the latter half though. However, I think the finale ended at a good place although we'll probably get another season ...like never or in another 8+ years. 8/10. That OP theme song is also really starting to grow on me.. __________________

2016-09-27, 08:18	Link #244
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	In case someone is interested: http://arystarkrory.co.vu/post/17747...w-with-hoshino Also, even Hoshino said the Order left a really bad taste with this story arc __________________

2016-09-27, 14:24	Link #245
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Night XIII. Walker Like most of you, I watched the season's finale yesterday. There were lots of misfortunes against Allen, since everyone at the Order presumed he murdered Link and escaped seemingly with the Noah, but the truth is murkier on the deep with the appearance of Apokryphos and it chasing after Allen. What I feel is that the story arcs following after the Alma Karma story were setting up the narrative so that the story can eventually take the audience towards the core of the mysteries on: 1. Nea's relationship with the Earl, 2. the hidden story of the Holy War that Cross cryptically warned Allen about at the start of this season, 3. and the truth about Heart and what's the Innocence. With a big smile I can claim that Hallow's season finale ended with a high note, although Allen taking his destiny on his own matters without siding with either the Noah and the Order leaves him on a bleak path fill with the misfortune that Nea is attempting to devour him in order to be reborned again. Yet, so tragic that Allen's present situation has become he continues, nonetheless, walking forward on his own path as long as he recalls the memories of his beloved Mana, which grants the boy a tiny speck of bright hope for things to come in the future.

2016-09-27, 17:39	Link #246
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah, well...this happened. If nothing else this series was a lesson that good shows...sometimes should just stay classics. Probably not going to add this to the mix whenever I rewatch the show. A lot of odd choices and rush in this thing. They did what they could with the material and the limited episode count. Could have been worse. And yes the recasting of the voice actors sucked badly. Great way to hype up a return to a show, change the voices so everyone sounds incredibly generic. __________________ Anime-Evo

2016-09-28, 07:33	Link #247
Forever Revealing the truth Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 41	I can say for an old viewer I am quite satisfied with this season. I might even buy blu-ray to support in hopes of seeing the series end before I die... __________________

2016-09-28, 16:51	Link #248
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	Well it's over. It was a nice ride overall. Some of the new character designs took some getting used to, but overall I can say I am satisfied with this adaption. __________________

2016-09-28, 17:21	Link #249
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	Hi wish this was longer but alas not enough material.

2016-10-04, 08:39	Link #251
MgMaster Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	I overall loved this season - it was so packed, maybe fast paced sure but not exactly rushed either. The character relationships & such were already established since the fairly long 1st season so they wasted no time, which was for the best considering all the reveals & twists we got - talk about curve balls. In a way, this season could be summed up as "being Allen is suffering", yet that only makes me appreciate his character even more for walking forward despite all that. Not much of the usual shounen shenanigans "I fight for my friends!" this season either. Hell, Allen's on his own for a now - the gray in the D.Gray man becomes apparent in this season. The Order did some nasty shit, and they're suffering the consequences of their actions now, yet when you think about it it's still the side to actually support overall because there's no better option out there(even if it's impossible for Allen right now). Like, Tykki & Road are cool & all but rooting for the Earl & his Noahs ain't exactly an option, seeing what he does with people's souls. I'd hope the Order would see some change when it comes to the higher ups - or heck, see it reformed, but with D.Gray, you never know which curve the ball's go next, and I dread to think how long will it take for another season to grace our screens. The most reasonable things to hope for is probably Hoshino releasing chapters more frequently.

2016-10-28, 13:50	Link #252
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	I don't know if the DVDs/Blurays were delayed or simply bomb cos I can't find the cover of anyone besides the first one

2016-12-06, 12:24	Link #253
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	UPDATE: Both the DVDs and Blurays were delayed. Not a single volume was released. According to the site "The Fandom Post", the reason might be due to some animation issues.

2016-12-06, 13:17	Link #254
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	Isn't that good? It means they're fixing animation issues.

2017-03-01, 12:13	Link #255
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	It's official! All DVDs and blurays were cancelled despite staff's work to improve the animation. Wonder what will happen to Funimation's release of the series http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...celled/.112834

2017-03-01, 12:33	Link #256
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	That... doesn't bode well for the series at all. Must've had some absolutely abysmal pre-orders to just outright cancel the releases. Like, not enough to even justify the pressing costs. Funi will probably just use the TV versions, plus MAYBE any updates that they completed. That said, wouldn't be surprised if, later on down the line at some point, they just release the whole season as a set like Silver Spoon season 2 did.

2017-08-17, 20:11	Link #257
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Funi just announced that they will release the first series' second half in home media release starting in October.