2013-01-13, 01:14 | Link #241 |
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You mean the classic "samurai's last stand"? I actually curious myself of who started this trend, the old Japanese live-action samurai movies or some old animes following the wake of Tetsuwan Atom.
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2013-01-13, 01:28 | Link #242 |
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It is similar to the old western quickdraw cuts. Big tension as the two gunslingers square off, then you see them draw with maybe a cut to the guns firing, or even cutting away to a long shot or background scenes while the gunshots echo. They cut back to the two still standing there, guns pointed at each other...then eventially slowly of their guns falls from their hand and he slumps over. Or maybe blood starts to spread from the wound or month before that (depending on the rating of the show/film). Usually done either so you can't tell which one fired, or just whose a better shot at the climax. Or so that you have them stand off and what really happened was a third party shot one first.
Something like that is at least as old at the 1950s.
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2013-01-13, 01:38 | Link #243 | |
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With that having been said, I suppose it's not really a cliche but entitlement is very annoying in characters. You see that a lot with characters that have a higher social status or are rich. Often they think they're better than everyone else, and while it does parallel real life I find it to be extremely distasteful. Fortunately you get the "rich farmer girl" who is very humble and sweet. Those almost make up for it. For my own entry, I suppose you could consider characters who get overly embarrassed to be cliche. I've recently begun to watch a bit of anime again and I'm finding this to be an irritant currently. I can sympathize with getting embarrassed in situations where you've made a very obvious error in front of a group of people, but getting embarrassed all the time about little implications and imagery of "embarrassing" things isn't OK even as a teenager. Maybe a bit of this stems from how Japanese culture tends to take romance and other such feelings more seriously than we do in Western cultures, but it irks me. Imagery of nudity or romantic situations shouldn't cause boys to turn red and get embarrassed and stutter. Heck, even with females that annoys me. I've certainly never experienced it or met anyone else who did. I let that slide a bit when the situation is actually tense or romantic, but when both parties aren't on the same level it also annoys me. Especially since it's always the female portrayed as being confident and mature, while the male is portrayed as being timid and embarrassed. Maybe I'm just a manly man though. Edit: Actually, I have to address the samurai standoff. That's actually not limited to samurai. You see this a lot with Mexican standoffs where both gunmen fire, and then pause, and then one of them (or both) falls. Another example is when two characters punch each other at the same time, and then pause, and then one or both fall.
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2013-01-13, 12:49 | Link #245 |
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Well I cant particularly say I hate it. But I read the light novel to Sword art online, and I didnt think it was all that great. Felt theres alot better stories and characters (with development) out there. But all I hear about the anime is praise on how good it is? I admit I havent read any of the side stories to Sword art online. But I felt the main story was rushed and pretty bland.. So unless the side stories are so good, I guess I'm sorta confused to why people think its so great.
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In this thread, we only discuss about the cliche, not an anime in its entirety.
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2013-01-13, 14:11 | Link #247 |
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What is it? Animes having unoriginal 'Transformers'-like machines
Worst Offenders: Well, most of the anime I'm going to post are epic, but it's still annoying after a while: Evangelion, Code Geass, Eureka Seven, and one more that I forgot the name of it. What makes it popular: Well, Idk really, probably the idea got innovated. Reasons I hate it: It gets annoying seeing similar-as-hell machines in completely different anime. Is the hate really worth it? Probably not, as the anime were all awesome, but animes should have SOME original ideas. |
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2013-01-13, 18:32 | Link #253 |
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Optimus Prime's face has a Gundam look to it. And yes, the RX-78-2 Gundam could pass for Optimus Prime's son, or something like that.
Shockwave and Soundwave are somewhat similar to some of the bulkier Zeon mechas. But otherwise, yeah, Transformers aren't that much like anime mechas. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any anime mecha that looks like Megatron or Starscream. Honestly, it would be neat if anime did something like Transformers. Where the mechas are living beings themselves. Maybe a plot where these living beings are essentially turned into slaves and forced to fight in human wars as their mechas.
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2013-01-13, 18:45 | Link #254 |
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Transformers: Masterforce (late 1980s Japanese continuation of the original series) did something like that with the robots as shells for their human pilots. Not all the robots, since that was also the series that had robots hide in human shells.
But then Transformers also borrowed the VF-1S from Macross to become Jetfire. The original Transformers toyline was a mix of various other toylines repackaged and given a story about the robots, rather than the drivers (several of the toys had originally had tiny driver figures). The American idea was to have it be about the robots rather than about humans driving large mecha like the Japanese had been doing for over a decade at that point. And there have been lots and lots, and lots of Transformers storylines and series in Japan. Just there generally isn't any other show that using the mecha as the living beings instead of the human pilots.
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2013-01-13, 19:18 | Link #255 |
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Not in the way you expected, but you've just (partly) described Evangelion. The "mecha" units there are unconscious, living biological beings implanted with internal electromechanical piloting systems and outfitted with bindings and armor that make them look like mecha. Since the beings are unconscious when under the control of a pilot, they are essentially slave "mecha" used to fight for human causes. Until they awaken and go berserk, that is.
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2013-01-13, 19:20 | Link #256 |
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Brave Series are the closest thing to Transformers, with a good reason.
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2013-01-13, 20:27 | Link #257 | |
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Anyway, it's nice that most people here don't generalize and accuse mechas in anime being rip-offs of Transformers .
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2013-01-13, 21:10 | Link #258 | |
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Young characters who take to long to adapt to their situation or try to remain rigid in their beliefs when there's just no room for it. I understand that these characters don't want this situation and that they feel they've been forced into a bad place, but they know better. They're old enough to get over it, in most cases. In Macross I felt like the child character was perpetually stupid in some respects. Amuro was a very realistic character, but I felt like his whiny phase was poorly timed. Just as well, with his father being a military scientist and him studying his designs like he did I don't fully understand how he manages to remain so pacifistic. Especially when you consider where Amuro ends up down the road I don't really see where that phase came from.
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"ZETTAI YURUSANAI!" I find that amusing...because it's like "hey...um the villain doesn't really care, you know?" But I think they put it in to show how pissed the character saying it is. Basically stating, "I am going to kick your ass now and show no mercy". (why not just say that, then? XD)
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