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tuckersister · 2014-12-02, 20:32

The only way for Ruuko to meet Mayu is to become a LRIG. I don't any other way for them to meet unless the anime reveals another way.

Stark700 · 2014-12-05, 11:33

Not going to lie, Dark Tama's face can be quite noticeable even in the latest episode.

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A lot of buildup again. Poor Tama-chan...

Key Board · 2014-12-05, 11:57

pretty they're making up new rules now

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Other than that Hanayo reaction seems interesting

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cleo · 2014-12-05, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Key Board

pretty they're making up new rules now

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I suppose you mean Tama? I doubt she refused Ulith's wish.
I think Ulith won and became an Lrig. This also was her wish, so Tama was free to do whatever she wanted. And she chose not to take Iona's body. Probably Lrig Iona was in the white room at the same time, and seeing her body was vacant, she took it back

What surprised me more was that post-selector Iona can still see Lrig's.
Plus the fact that Chiyori's wish-reversal went exactly as the girls had foreseen. I was fully prepared for a nasty twist, but she doesn't feel pain while being near selectors or any other side-effects.

Looks like we're heading for a friendship ending. Because the only way I can see Ruu getting her wish (send all Lrigs to their real world) and Tama turning into a real girl is Mayu being nice and using her magic. (unless we get another bad end and have to wait a year for Selector Ended Wixoss- the movie

).

NinjaRealist · 2014-12-05, 20:36

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Originally Posted by cleo1

Looks like we're heading for a friendship ending. Because the only way I can see Ruu getting her wish (send all Lrigs to their real world) and Tama turning into a real girl is Mayu being nice and using her magic. (unless we get another bad end and have to wait a year for Selector Ended Wixoss- the movie

).

I hope we get a happy friendship ending for a series and then get a movie that gives the entire series a surreal bad ending al la End of Evangelion.

Master_Yoma · 2014-12-05, 21:57

Iona back to normal and Tama in trouble now

Finely get to see what Yuzuki real body up to

Benigmatica · 2014-12-06, 05:38

Spoiler for Episode 22 (Selector Spread Ep. 10):

Idealist 99 · 2014-12-06, 06:10

I was wondering another thing--

--Shouene Card Anime : Fan Anime where Girl can participate and become really strong .

--Shoujo card Anime : Dark Anime where Boy are not allowed and its all about Girls Girls Girls .

Its actually true with a lot of Shoujo Imaginary game Anime like Girls and Pangers .
Why is That ???

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Originally Posted by tuckersister

The only way for Ruuko to meet Mayu is to become a LRIG. I don't any other way for them to meet unless the anime reveals another way.

What if Ruuko originally was a LRIG ?
There is something Odd about her that scare even her mother.

Guido · 2014-12-06, 19:32

Back in the fourth episode, I posted several theories on discerning about who Mayu really was, and the fourth option came true.

Although I suspect some of you saw it coming since this season's episode three or ealier, Mayu creating Iona and Tama as her imaginary friends to make her company with no access to the outside world and being forever stranded inside that room speaks volumes how much messed-up this show is but loving it.

Certainly, I can relate somewhat on what Mayu has been experiencing all alone and herself in that room. But, precisely I believe it was both her fear to the outside world and her comfort bubble which prevented her from mustering up enough courage to walk right to the door, open it, and leave the room for whatever was outside she was yearning to see.

Mayu's always been there at the room. The White Maze room is an abstract representation of Mayu's confinement, comfort zone, helplessness, and solitude manifested through extreme fear and disdain for the outside world. As well as begging me another question, is Mayu's true self still alive? I mean her body of flesh?
Given that this show turns pessimistic at each twist thrown, then it wouldn't surprise me if her flesh body is long gone.

Then, we have matters with Ulith how she thrown everyone out of their marbles invading then taking possession of Tama, staining her to beat the Big-Bang out of Iona in a whole new level of dementia just to break her opponents' hearts.

From here on, with only four episodes remaining for me to watch I doubt if the staff are going to end the show in a satisfying and coherent route, given that to me with all the madness been happening as of lately seems that the main characters have lost track of what's ahead of them except maybe Ruko and friends forcing their way into Mayu's room, then encouraging her to come to the outside world, and thus ending the tragedy of the WIXOSS games.
However, they're supposedly have to deal with Ulith first, but now with Iona taken out of cold for the time being, and Ulith apparently left for dead by Akira silently snapping on her, then I don't see where else can the show move forward.

As for Akira, she's absolutely lost, and I foresee a pessimistic ending for her.

Triple_R · 2014-12-06, 20:54

Aaawwww.... Tama!Iona would have been so very amusing. It's kind of a shame that didn't happen. But I will admit it made for a neat twist to be introduced, at last, to the real Iona Urazoe. And that itself was thankfully somewhat amusing, as the real Iona Urazoe was amusingly very different from the Iona of the first cour.

Speaking of that Iona, she now has a new name! And her name is, somewhat ironically, "Yuki". Ironic since snow is white and Kuro is "The Girl in Black". Also ironic in that the first character I think of when I hear "Yuki" is "Yuki Nagato", and ex-Iona is quite different from her.

Still, Yuki is a cool name for ex-Iona. And it's surprisingly heartwarming to see Ruu, Hitoe, and Yuzuki all rally around Yuki and support her like they have lately, and in recent episodes.

The Aki-Crazy vs. Ulith moment was... a bit odd. I'm not quite sure what to make of Akira any more. Maybe we won't see much more of Akira, so maybe it won't matter much. Or maybe we'll get a really amusing scenario where Ulith becomes Akira's LRIG...

With that in mind...

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I suppose you mean Tama? I doubt she refused Ulith's wish.
I think Ulith won and became an Lrig. This also was her wish, so Tama was free to do whatever she wanted. And she chose not to take Iona's body.

Agreed. Tama accepting transfer to Iona's body is perhaps considered separate from Tama accepting Ulith's wish. Tama has no real reason to object to Ulith wanting to become a LRIG again, so Tama just went with it. I'm looking forward to seeing Ulith in LRIG form again, whoever her Selector may be (though Akira would probably be the most amusing possible choice).

IceHism · 2014-12-06, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Idealist 99

I was wondering another thing--

--Shouene Card Anime : Fan Anime where Girl can participate and become really strong .

--Shoujo card Anime : Dark Anime where Boy are not allowed and its all about Girls Girls Girls .

This makes zero sense. Wixoss isn't a shoujo show, it is under seinen/shounen

Chihayafuru is a josei/shoujo game show and it has boys and it is very happy and not dark at all....

Pen3 · 2014-12-07, 04:13

Has my Ruuko x Iona yuri time been denied need now?

NinjaRealist · 2014-12-07, 05:08

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

And it's surprisingly heartwarming to see Ruu, Hitoe, and Yuzuki all rally around Yuki and support her like they have lately, and in recent episodes.

Agreed. This for me has been one of the strong points of this season.

During the first season there was this weird dichotomy between Yuki/Iona and Ulith. They were both sinister but their relationship was so symbiotic that it was never really obvious who was the real villain there.

Season 2 answered that question in a really satisfying way. We get to see that, on the one hand, Yuki/Iona is truly a tragic kind of character and really sort of naive and prone to influence from those around her. It's really cute to see her develop into a better person as a result of the warmth she receives from Ruuko, Hitoe, and Yuzuki.

And on the other hand, we get to see Ulith show just how much of a psycho she really is, which really makes you wonder about some of the events of season 1. I'm going to be disappointed if they just unceremoniously ignore this character for the rest of the show, because her over-the-top sadism has been one of the more entertaining aspects of the second season IMO.

Idealist 99 · 2014-12-07, 06:36

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Originally Posted by IceHism

This makes zero sense. Wixoss isn't a shoujo show, it is under seinen/shounen

Chihayafuru is a josei/shoujo game show and it has boys and it is very happy and not dark at all....

Isn't Shoujo mean Young Girls Anime & Manga ??
While Shounen mean Young Boys Anime & Manga.

silvercover · 2014-12-07, 08:05

another good episode... just goes to show that having a consistent script writer does have a massive effect on the quality of the story, as okada again is the one in charge of this.
now if she just continues on like this and not switch with someone else again.

that being said though, still got some issues and problems id point out, but this is more of a consequence to the effects of previous developments done rather than okada making mistakes.

for one, akira's own character may as well be obsolete now. her relevance has gone zero with this, not only has she lost but her own desire is way too messed up even by yandere standards... its actually well in the stupidity standard.
in particular there's the whole "il scare and mark you as mine" but eh how? how is her wish or joining in the cycle even going to do something to that effect? it might create some similarities with them, but its not gonna help her get closer to ulith if she likes her, or on the other side if she despises her the wish is not to make her turn into a better person.
I mean akira's development should be already on the edge of choosing whether she wants ulith as this person or not. if she wants her like that then her reason should be centered on doing things that would get ulith to like her, not do things like stabbing her. if she wants ulith to change, then she'd be wishing more of a change on ulith's character and not something like a physical scar or something.

and then there's ulith really, a lot of waste.
the girl who's supposed to pretty much be ruko's counterpart in all the way with her being special enough to influence LRIGs with her essence as well as someone else who's aware of how "scary" ruko is.
all of which implies that ruko and ulith should be sharing something similar that makes them special... yet now ulith is gone to who knows where and we're likely not gonna see how these two are alike.
its like having some character who was hyped up to be some big shot that would be an obstacle to the MC but suddenly disappearing and not being important anymore.

unless these two are gonna screw up the whole rescue part, at this point ulith and akira seems to have no importance or is not gonna be important anymore.

Triple_R · 2014-12-07, 08:26

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Agreed. This for me has been one of the strong points of this season.

Yeah, watching Iona/Yuki slowly but surely become part of the protagonist team, with all four of them benefiting from it, is probably the strongest point of this season.

Either that, or Aki-Lucky and Ulith's sheer entertainment value as hammy villains.

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And on the other hand, we get to see Ulith show just how much of a psycho she really is, which really makes you wonder about some of the events of season 1. I'm going to be disappointed if they just unceremoniously ignore this character for the rest of the show, because her over-the-top sadism has been one of the more entertaining aspects of the second season IMO.

Aki-lucky might be done, because honestly, I kinda have to agree with silvercover on her now. I can't pick much sense out of Aki-lucky's current character state. Perhaps her role has been mostly or entirely filled, keeping in mind that Akira didn't show up much in the last 2 or 3 episodes of the first cour. Akira has always had a certain "mid-boss" vibe to her, imo.

But I disagree with silvercover on Ulith. I think Ulith has been very well-developed and pretty consistent. And I think having the final battle be Ruuko and Yuki vs. ???? and Ulith could make a lot of sense. That might not be it, because Tama as the final enemy LRIG could also make a lot of sense, but in any event, I really doubt we've seen the last of Ulith.

90% chance Ulith shows up again. I'm 50/50 on Akira.

Benigmatica · 2014-12-07, 09:04

I wonder if Akira wants to be a LRIG so she can crawl into Ulith's skin? Remember, Aki-lucky said to Ulith that she'll scar her and heal that said scar. Way more creepy that I imagined!

Kotohono · 2014-12-07, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Speaking of that Iona, she now has a new name! And her name is, somewhat ironically, "Yuki". Ironic since snow is white and Kuro is "The Girl in Black". Also ironic in that the first character I think of when I hear "Yuki" is "Yuki Nagato", and ex-Iona is quite different from her.

.

I actually thought of another long black haired girl right away, Kuroyukihime.... I mean she's had the names "Kuro" and "Yuki", she just needs to be named or become hime now!

Also poor Tama, I mean if she knew how she forgave and now treats Yuki, I am sure she would have less issues of feelings and thoughts like she can't/shouldn't be with Ruu now because of how she acted.

Guido · 2014-12-07, 20:28

A beautifully executed episode that before my eyes puts the show towards a certain destination in order to conclude.

When there's camaraderie, love, and caring in-between the relationship from Selector to Lrig and viceversa becomes more than special: it becomes an immersive bond between two best friends.

I believe that previously Midoriko felt the same way for Hitoe, and right now Yuzuki feels happy being with her two best friends.

Nevertheless, the best friendship compatibility was Chiyori and Eldora, and I really sobbed then felt to cry for the two of them. I mean the catharsis delivered spread from the characters to the audience, as it looked like to me.
Those two had the most spontaneous and natural bond, as well as having the funniest personalities. I really don't want to say feeling bad for Chiyori. I just really now want more than ever for Ruko to reclaim Tama back, and then along with Iona for the three of them to meet Mayu and convince her leaving for the outside world.

And, how would they convince Mayu to love what's outside her walls, you ask? Simply, what Ruko knows what she does best becoming Mayu's friend, and Mayu making amends with everybody by releasing all Selectors and Lrigs from the games, and thus putting an end to the WIXOSS tragedy.

Thing is that I'm discerning the possibility with Ulith turning to the role of the last antagonist and preventing at all costs the end of the Selector-Lrig system.
Because, honestly, Akira in that state won't be able to do much damage to Ulith inside the WIXOSS world; she got her chance in the previous episode snapping and then stabbing Ulith, but the latter survived due to the wound not being a big deal at all.

Shyni · 2014-12-08, 14:27

Since Tama looks pretty much identical to her "Shiro" appearance...

does this mean she made a habit of not taking over bodies?

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Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Not going to lie, Dark Tama's face can be quite noticeable even in the latest episode. Spoiler: A lot of buildup again. Poor Tama-chan... __________________

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	pretty they're making up new rules now Spoiler: Ruuko refused Ulith's wish This apparently ejected Ulith from Iona's body thus, causing the original owner of Iona's body to come back in Other than that Hanayo reaction seems interesting Spoiler: I'm not sure if she's anxious because Kazuki noticed something different if if she's anxious because it took this long to notice something different (identity crisis: is she really Hanayo or is she Yuzuki?) __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Iona back to normal and Tama in trouble now Finely get to see what Yuzuki real body up to __________________

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Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Spoiler for Episode 22 (Selector Spread Ep. 10): What a surprised to see the original Iona getting her body back after Tama refused to make Ulith's wish come true. However, that raises a question on what happened to Akira and Ulith after the battle? What if Ulith got Akira's body despite Aki-lucky losing to her? Meanwhile, sad to see Chiyori and Eldora go... It's for the best after all!

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Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 44	This World is My Property Back in the fourth episode, I posted several theories on discerning about who Mayu really was, and the fourth option came true. Although I suspect some of you saw it coming since this season's episode three or ealier, Mayu creating Iona and Tama as her imaginary friends to make her company with no access to the outside world and being forever stranded inside that room speaks volumes how much messed-up this show is but loving it. Certainly, I can relate somewhat on what Mayu has been experiencing all alone and herself in that room. But, precisely I believe it was both her fear to the outside world and her comfort bubble which prevented her from mustering up enough courage to walk right to the door, open it, and leave the room for whatever was outside she was yearning to see. Mayu's always been there at the room. The White Maze room is an abstract representation of Mayu's confinement, comfort zone, helplessness, and solitude manifested through extreme fear and disdain for the outside world. As well as begging me another question, is Mayu's true self still alive? I mean her body of flesh? Given that this show turns pessimistic at each twist thrown, then it wouldn't surprise me if her flesh body is long gone. Then, we have matters with Ulith how she thrown everyone out of their marbles invading then taking possession of Tama, staining her to beat the Big-Bang out of Iona in a whole new level of dementia just to break her opponents' hearts. From here on, with only four episodes remaining for me to watch I doubt if the staff are going to end the show in a satisfying and coherent route, given that to me with all the madness been happening as of lately seems that the main characters have lost track of what's ahead of them except maybe Ruko and friends forcing their way into Mayu's room, then encouraging her to come to the outside world, and thus ending the tragedy of the WIXOSS games. However, they're supposedly have to deal with Ulith first, but now with Iona taken out of cold for the time being, and Ulith apparently left for dead by Akira silently snapping on her, then I don't see where else can the show move forward. As for Akira, she's absolutely lost, and I foresee a pessimistic ending for her.

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tuckersister Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	The only way for Ruuko to meet Mayu is to become a LRIG. I don't any other way for them to meet unless the anime reveals another way.

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Pen3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Has my Ruuko x Iona yuri time been denied need now?

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silvercover Romance Expert Join Date: Feb 2012	another good episode... just goes to show that having a consistent script writer does have a massive effect on the quality of the story, as okada again is the one in charge of this. now if she just continues on like this and not switch with someone else again. that being said though, still got some issues and problems id point out, but this is more of a consequence to the effects of previous developments done rather than okada making mistakes. for one, akira's own character may as well be obsolete now. her relevance has gone zero with this, not only has she lost but her own desire is way too messed up even by yandere standards... its actually well in the stupidity standard. in particular there's the whole "il scare and mark you as mine" but eh how? how is her wish or joining in the cycle even going to do something to that effect? it might create some similarities with them, but its not gonna help her get closer to ulith if she likes her, or on the other side if she despises her the wish is not to make her turn into a better person. I mean akira's development should be already on the edge of choosing whether she wants ulith as this person or not. if she wants her like that then her reason should be centered on doing things that would get ulith to like her, not do things like stabbing her. if she wants ulith to change, then she'd be wishing more of a change on ulith's character and not something like a physical scar or something. and then there's ulith really, a lot of waste. the girl who's supposed to pretty much be ruko's counterpart in all the way with her being special enough to influence LRIGs with her essence as well as someone else who's aware of how "scary" ruko is. all of which implies that ruko and ulith should be sharing something similar that makes them special... yet now ulith is gone to who knows where and we're likely not gonna see how these two are alike. its like having some character who was hyped up to be some big shot that would be an obstacle to the MC but suddenly disappearing and not being important anymore. unless these two are gonna screw up the whole rescue part, at this point ulith and akira seems to have no importance or is not gonna be important anymore. __________________ my fanfics: Refractions (madoka magica) Reversed Connections (BRS) could only keep it this big

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Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	I wonder if Akira wants to be a LRIG so she can crawl into Ulith's skin? Remember, Aki-lucky said to Ulith that she'll scar her and heal that said scar. Way more creepy that I imagined!

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Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 44	That Abrupt Separation A beautifully executed episode that before my eyes puts the show towards a certain destination in order to conclude. When there's camaraderie, love, and caring in-between the relationship from Selector to Lrig and viceversa becomes more than special: it becomes an immersive bond between two best friends. I believe that previously Midoriko felt the same way for Hitoe, and right now Yuzuki feels happy being with her two best friends. Nevertheless, the best friendship compatibility was Chiyori and Eldora, and I really sobbed then felt to cry for the two of them. I mean the catharsis delivered spread from the characters to the audience, as it looked like to me. Those two had the most spontaneous and natural bond, as well as having the funniest personalities. I really don't want to say feeling bad for Chiyori. I just really now want more than ever for Ruko to reclaim Tama back, and then along with Iona for the three of them to meet Mayu and convince her leaving for the outside world. And, how would they convince Mayu to love what's outside her walls, you ask? Simply, what Ruko knows what she does best becoming Mayu's friend, and Mayu making amends with everybody by releasing all Selectors and Lrigs from the games, and thus putting an end to the WIXOSS tragedy. Thing is that I'm discerning the possibility with Ulith turning to the role of the last antagonist and preventing at all costs the end of the Selector-Lrig system. Because, honestly, Akira in that state won't be able to do much damage to Ulith inside the WIXOSS world; she got her chance in the previous episode snapping and then stabbing Ulith, but the latter survived due to the wound not being a big deal at all.

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Shyni Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: nowhere	Since Tama looks pretty much identical to her "Shiro" appearance... does this mean she made a habit of not taking over bodies?