(L+CR) Subete ga F ni Naru (Everything Becomes F)

[RDNexus]

I really don't get it. People complain of rush adaptions but when something is decently to nicely adapted, they still complain about the pacing...

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by xrick

I really don't get it. People complain of rush adaptions but when something is decently to nicely adapted, they still complain about the pacing...

After reading Kamieichi's post, it's pretty apparent to me the anime did screw up the pacing.

Spoiler for Novel:

I don't know when exactly Yamane's murder happened in the novel, but if it had happened near the middle of the anime, it would have improved it quite a bit. They would have something new to talk about instead of mulling the same thing over for 8 episodes, and it would have created a sense of danger as we would have been certain the murderer was still around.

It's pretty classic in mystery to add more murders to retain the reader's interest, but it's not a classic for nothing. It just works.

Seems like the anime added scenes to, including the infamous engrish one which I could have definitely done without. I'm grateful they added the Shiki scenes though, that was a very good call as these scenes were the most fascinating and chilling of the series.

[K11chi]

Originally Posted by xrick

I really don't get it. People complain of rush adaptions but when something is decently to nicely adapted, they still complain about the pacing...

Because most cases like this, except with more content, last 4-5 episodes at best until they get dragged out for no reason (Though 3 seems fine for this show). This had nothing more than one locked room mystery going for it.
Episodes 3-8 can be skipped completely. This last episode isn't any necessary than the last either.

[~Yami~]

why it takes me too long to realize that Michiru is the name of the daughter?
and in the end, no one could catch Shiki Magata and she kept trolling everyone till the end

decent anime.. I enjoy the pacing and the character development
Sometimes I really need this mature-type anime

[Bakaizer]

it's not even that mature if you ask me, just some plain wannabee 2dp4u type of show

[serenade_beta]

Wait what?! I just realized that episode 11 was the end.
...Really? That's it? She escapes and its over?
Ehhhh?

An... anyways, 4/10. This is what happens when you drag one mystery one for an entire cour. Nougami Neuro and Conan have some words for it...

[moodie]

Originally Posted by Bakaizer

it's not even that mature if you ask me, just some plain wannabee 2dp4u type of show

Ah the classic meme to discredit an anime lol. Tbh I believe most ppl watching anime dont really understand or have experienced many mystery based entertainment. Which is why people think being "slow" paced is a bad thing or being dragged. For 11 episodes it did everything right.

I guess people are too accustomed to things being told to them in less than 4 episodes.

[RDNexus]

If it's a Shounen Manga, it's dragging for too long.
If it's a LN series, it's usually rushed or told quickly.
If a story is told in the optimal amount, it's dragging.

Honestly, I think people have grown used to nag and complain more than simply enjoy.
In this medium, it's difficult to find masterpieces or gems but people always demand excellence.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by xrick

If it's a Shounen Manga, it's dragging for too long.
If it's a LN series, it's usually rushed or told quickly.
If a story is told in the optimal amount, it's dragging.

Honestly, I think people have grown used to nag and complain more than simply enjoy.
In this medium, it's difficult to find masterpieces or gems but people always demand excellence.

Or...not every show is a perfectly created masterpiece and there are actually flaws that exist. I love how the first two are things that actually happen. While the third one is trying to slap people in the face who don't agree with you. They don't even work in terms of comparables. The first two are things that can happen the third is an impossibility.

If a show is told optimally it's not dragging. It's fine if you feel like the show was told in a perfect manner, but it doesn't mean people are wrong if they don't feel that way.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by xrick

If it's a Shounen Manga, it's dragging for too long.
If it's a LN series, it's usually rushed or told quickly.
If a story is told in the optimal amount, it's dragging.

Honestly, I think people have grown used to nag and complain more than simply enjoy.
In this medium, it's difficult to find masterpieces or gems but people always demand excellence.

There are detractors for everything. There is no masterpiece in art or entertainment. Its dumb to even contemplate that. If you saw the best thing ever, what's the point to see anything else?

[RDNexus]

Then why people complain of how this one and Rokka got adapted? You both, care to explain?
Those two, as an example, and as far as I know, got nicely adapted but people still complain.
And, yes, I know it may have more to do with a story's genre and that no story is a masterpiece, never has been, but still...

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by xrick

Then why people complain of how this one and Rokka got adapted? You both, care to explain?
Those two, as an example, and as far as I know, got nicely adapted but people still complain.
And, yes, I know it may have more to do with a story's genre and that no story is a masterpiece, never has been, but still...

Because people aren't actually complaining about the adaption (as in the transition from book to video except for maybe one scene where that one guy was suppose to die along the way) but the content in general.

One of the complaints I read here is "they shouldn't have spent a whole cour on 1 locked room mystery". That has nothing to do with pace. The book is only 1 locked room mystery.

[RDNexus]

Well, I guess that's because people are always making expectations when, nowadays and more than never, one should simply go blind to a story and enjoy whatever it's dumped on them.
Of course, this is only one side of the coin. But in this case, could the story feel complete if they had rushed through certain plot points?

[SeijiSensei]

Until Subite ga F, I hadn't see a reference to flotation tanks in popular media since the movie Altered States was released nearly forty years ago. (God, I'm old!) Apparently they are making a comeback, at least in Britain: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35521560