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2013-04-16, 14:12 | Link #27523 | |
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2013-04-16, 14:30 | Link #27524 | |
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Simple science can kill people.
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2013-04-16, 14:38 | Link #27525 |
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Ironically this is exactly the opposite of the Counter-insurgency method that was adopted by the Americans in 2006 for Iraq with limited success (though ultimately not enough to clean up all the damage caused by philosophies such as "shoot first, ask questions later"). Whilst inhabitants can be considered potential combatants, the idea of guilty until proven innocent is generally not a good idea for Counter-insurgency.
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2013-04-16, 15:39 | Link #27529 |
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Theres a land anarchy.. across an ocean.. so.. kill them? Kill the civilians who need the most help? The insurgency point is already moot, and your land anarchy point is an extremely weak one. Do you want to know why there is a land of anarchy in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan in the first place? Do you really think the U.S liberated these pitiable, poor, savage, barbarians? What do you think, the army goes to these places and of course, the idiot uneducated locals are afraid of the men with white skin, so dislike them and treat them badly? More importantly, you keep dropping the word counter insurgency, like its an actual science or something. Its not. There is no general school of thought, and there is very limited theory that is based on no empirical evidence. At best a small amount of the hypothetical causal factors actually mean something, but in all likelihood they're just correlated with iron rule under colonization. It is simply the actions taken by a government to quell insurgency taken up against it. Now, clearly the insurgency taken up against it (in this case the U.S), in the affected regions is (dare I say it) justified. It really sounds like you have no inkling about what goes on in the war torn part of the middle east. Oh and the Americans didn't win over anyone in Iraq. Because of what happened in Iraq (again, in this case, with no real justification, that country will take half a century to rebuild.
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2013-04-16, 15:42 | Link #27531 | |
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That's it! Ban Science! It all started when someone posted an article on the Afghan war from 2002. That is why I said I was annoyed by that. I saw it posted elsewhere on the internet and people were trying to say "Boston bombing? So what, look what happened in Afghanistan on the same day!" (*trollface*notreallythesamedayorevensamedecade *trollface*)
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2013-04-16, 15:53 | Link #27533 | |
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EDIT: Missed ganbaru's post. Oh well.
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2013-04-16, 16:05 | Link #27535 | |
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For my part, that's one of the thoughts that crosses my mind every time such a tragedy occurs in my country. I wish people were more considerate of other parts of the world, too. At the end of the day, though, people are always going to be more focused on their neck of the woods, their people, and their situation. It's not 'right,' but it's understandable. It even occurs in a microcosm within the same state; for instance, a gang shooting in a low-income urban area vs a gang shooting in a suburb of the same city would provoke different responses. The life of Afghani villagers is equal to people in Boston or anywhere else. I'm not disillusioned to believe that the American military is some force of justice, either. Bottom line is, in a place where violence and chaos is the norm, it's natural to become desensitized to it. It's far more sensational when such a thing occurs in a 'peaceful' area. It's also only natural that people are going to feel more connected and alert to events happening in their region of the world than one that is very disconnected from their day to day living. |
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2013-04-16, 16:12 | Link #27536 | |
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2013-04-16, 16:17 | Link #27538 | |
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2013-04-16, 16:18 | Link #27539 |
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US experiance with insurgency is not very good, though it is varied in who, hows, and where.
US against various Native Americans US against the Confederate States of America (actually more so in the Reconstruiction were we still have the KKK running around almost 150 years later.) US against groups in the Philippines US against Mexico from time to time depending on what Mexican Revolution is happening. (not counting the aftermath of the Mexican-American War since I don't recall much about that because the Gold Rush and the Missouri Compromise take up the history text of that period before the Civil War lead up begins) The US didn't do all that much in the aftermath of the First World War that I recall, though there was something going on with the support of the Czarist forces during the Russian Revolution before the Soviet Union was fully formed. Then there are the occupations of West Germany-West Berlin, West Austria, Italy, and Japan. Austria and Italy resolved fairly quickly, but West Germany and Japan took a while, plus US troops had to stay for other reasons following the end of he occupations. Potentially US against North Vietnam and the Viet Cong (my father spent a year on the rivers and canals during interdiction patrols and the like for the US Navy and South Vietnamese Navy during the Vietnamization project.) Now Iraqi and Afghanistan are added to the list And all had different methods and tactics (and results) to dealing with the problems.
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