2013-04-19, 23:51 | Link #27761 | |
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The point I'm just trying to make across is that several cultures and groups suffered bigotry, discrimination, starvation and several other things throughout history, but a number of them found other ways to win their point without making a bad name of their group/affiliation. Right now, Islam is in a very rough patch with all those extremists. However, that should be no excuse for the sane ones to make no effort in cutting the support given to those radicals. That's why I wrote earlier that not calling out for a crime is as bad as committing a crime yourself. |
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2013-04-19, 23:57 | Link #27762 | |
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I'm a sane Muslim who hate radicals... Do you think that it's wise for me to go to their place and telling them " Stop it or I'll tell the authorities".... I bet they'll never let me leave alive.... So it's still my fault that I value my life? |
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2013-04-20, 00:11 | Link #27763 | ||
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2013-04-20, 00:11 | Link #27764 | ||
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2013-04-20, 00:13 | Link #27765 | |
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That bit I mentioned earlier about Northern Ireland is a good reference about how depriving radicals from their primary resource (people) by in-family discussions at home and threats of being disowned helped in reducing the number of radicals in the end after over 2 decades of civil war/crisis. BTW, those IRA guys were very intimidating in some districts under their control too. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2013-04-20 at 00:19. Reason: felt the need to add more. |
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2013-04-20, 00:59 | Link #27767 | |
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Some people have been banned... this place is dangerous |
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2013-04-20, 01:38 | Link #27768 |
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... I wonder if I'm the only one here thinks the term 'Caucasian' should be strictly defined (in the U.S) as someone who hails from the Caucasus region.
ex: Two Caucasian males of Russian nationality from Dagestan province_______________ Last edited by flying ^; 2013-04-20 at 01:53. |
2013-04-20, 01:39 | Link #27769 |
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Well these people are given religious education WITHOUT being taught how to read. so they cannot read through the entire religious text and gain the full perspective.
In the Quran, I remember reading that only that being up there has the sole right to judge, all the Ulema and Imams are only allowed to advise fellow humans, not based on the incentives of the 72 virgins, but rather on respect for ALL of its creation.
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2013-04-20, 01:41 | Link #27770 | |
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But then what will the rest of us whities be known as?
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2013-04-20, 01:52 | Link #27771 |
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Whoa, hold it there. You believe in a magic man in the clouds, you're clearly not sane.
The True One is made of pasta and meatballs, get it right. The incentives are appealing, but without the prerequisite of "loli" attached, I assume it's not quite your bread.
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2013-04-20, 02:02 | Link #27772 |
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The Boston Bombers.
I don't see Muslims. I see white kids. So, surprise, surprise. White people can be terrorists too. So, in this case, lay off the Muslims for once.
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2013-04-20, 02:09 | Link #27773 | ||
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Therefore all those virgins are lolis.
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2013-04-20, 02:53 | Link #27774 |
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Well, unfortunate that the bombers were born-again Muslims. That's not going to help matters.
Still, that gives credence to my theory that recent converts are at risks of radicalism more than those born into a religion. For 2 reasons: 1. One might converts to a religion purely to attempt to run away from one's own problems. This is not a good idea as religion doesn't fix anything. The community built around the religion can help those in need, but if you are distressed prayer alone won't cut it. 2. Being a recent convert means you weren't taught which passages of the holy texts to ignore. This is probably not helped by religious leaders who pretend the offending passages don't exist. Young men wanted answers, thought they found it, then ruined everyone's lives out of desperation. And to think, they attacked America because they were mad at Russians... A logic leap of crazy proportions.
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2013-04-20, 02:55 | Link #27775 | ||
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Well, Djohar Tsarnaev was born in Kyrgyzstan, Tamerlan in Chechnya, right. That (from russian perspective at least) does mean they are not russians. Just to calrify (sort of FYI): English language has one term "Russian" (correct me if I'm wrong here). Russian language has two separate terms "русский" (nationality) and "россиянин" (resident of Russian Federation).
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2013-04-20, 04:56 | Link #27777 |
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Radicalism, be it political, racial or religious, is a threat to the human race.
Take Japan and Singapore for example. If they have reduced the age of marriage to that of Brunei's, they wouldn't have suffered dismal birth rates. But nooo, they have to go the way of those radical legal hegemons and "modern civilised society". You can't have too much of a good thing, to maintain balance, rules must sometimes be tweaked the other way.
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