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The perimeter list does not dictate who gets to be a Level 5- not in the way you guys are suggesting. It relies alot on the individual's potential, whether he or she has it in themselves to reach Level 5.
It does not magically turn anyone into a Level 5, in fact the whole point of the List is to pick out the ones that have potential because not everyone is created equally. I know why it would be controversial in the story, but I don't get why we have some people surprised by it- In real life, everybody pays more attention to the 'gifted' students- this is nothing new, education isn't free you know.
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The question then would be whether you want to sacrifice good students for bad students, or bad students for good students. Don't forget, the more good students you produce the better funding you'll get, and with better funding you can help more students... While putting in effort to help bad students borderline pass is just simply a question of moral.
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(1) Accelerator -> Michael, The Regard of God (2) Kakine -> Gabriel, The Power of God (3*) Mikoto -> Raphael, God's Medicine (4) Mugino -> Uriel, The Flame of God (5+) Misaki -> Jehudiel, The Praise of God (6) Unknown -> Shealtiel, The Prayer of God (7-) Gunha -> Barachiel, The Blessing of God * I don't think Mikoto corresponds to Raphael, though electricity DOES contribute to the technological advances in medicine. + I do think that her telepathic powers somehow has something to do with "Praise". - I mean, seriously, look at the guy. And another theory of mine: Spoiler for The Sixth Level Five:
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Got directed to this thread if we wanted to talk about the upcoming Index movie and needs to give novel spoilers... I'm going to limit myself to posting here since I'm not sure I can hold back on LN plot.
So, any guesses? Vol15's Battle Royale? Material from before Touma's memory loss Kamachi said he wanted to do but never managed to fit in the novels (eg, how Touma met Aogami and Komoe-sensei)? Or would this be filler like the last Railgun OVA? |
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We'll see when we get info on October 10. I doubt we'll see anything from before the Winter uniforms kicked in if we stick to the movie announcement picture.
Let's face it, the movie backs itself into a corner if it is set before Volume 13--so I hope the movie comes out after season 3, assuming the movie is indeed scheduled for 2013. My main concern is the villain. A good villain that's actually competent and abuses the limitations of Imagine Breaker--thus setting the stage for cooperation and team strategy to take him down--could carry an otherwise forgettable plot that has no real affect on the main story.
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You know, just to be super-extra careful, I've decided to post this statement here instead of the Shana thread for it's borderline spoiler-ish nature because I've made a similar mistake once and I'm not willing to risk it again.
So here goes- "Watching Shana III, I have a pretty good idea how JC Staff would be handling Index WWIII arc. If anything I take it as a dry run before the 'real deal' (lol)" There, I said it. (Note that I've cleverly avoided directly mentioning any plot points to Shana III no matter how retardedly obvious or how badly kept the secret is on the Internet that any Anime viewer worth his/her salt could find out in a heartbeat, not to mention it's likely those who never watched the show by now probably wouldn't give two-hoot about it; But I digress.)
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It's surprising because then it means they'd worked for nothing. It means they'd be lied to
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She doesn't Awaken...
You don't call a real Angel an Awakened being since they don't need to in the first place. But she is one of the AIM Angels. Quote:
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I'm pretty sure nobody was promised that they could be all powerful.
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Since he cannot, then what's his point in slogging it out in AC? (before he got involved in everything of course) IE everyone without the potential are just being used. I never said the List determines their rankings. Quote:
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Do you know why parents and teachers never tell their kids that? And what's the point of slogging it out in AC? How about the best education from the most scientifically advanced city in the world? That's not how it works, every one that has gotten a high level is because they have that natural capability, not because they got on the list.
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The list, is just, as the name states, a list of parameters. By using it, Academy city can use it's limited resources to produce as many high-level Espers as possible, or at least increase the odds of making high-level espers without wasting too much money on those who will never be able to reach those levels, according to the parameters applicable to power developement. It's not that surprising, weird or even controversial, considering the goal of the city: SYSTEM, Level 6. To use a negative example: Every student in Academy City is basically a lab rat (To Aleister, and possibly the board of directors.) Why waste medicines on rats that dont have the right form of the disease? The PL is made to determine which rats have the best chance to react well to the medicines, and so, on which rats to focus the efforts. Not an entirely apt example now that I think on it... start-up companies and investors would probably be a better one.
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I think you all are forgetting, that we are talking about science.
Here stuff as natural capability, talent or anything like that ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MATTER!!! It has been mentioned several times that the AC scientists are CONSTANTLY researching new methods and drugs that change the structure of brain. this itself implies that AC science is not perfect and has really big gaps. If you go even further, we can conclude that AC supercomputers can't simulate reality. We can deduce this from Aleister plan, that is failing. If they really could do that, his predictions would have had 100% succes rate. If they can't simulate reality, they can do simulations ONLY and ONLY based on informations they have And where those informations come from? Yes, they come from the incomplete and insuficient data the AC poses. (It is 50 years ahead of other countries, but still milion years from being complete) This TALENT or how they label it.. it is not "how one is close to being a strong esper" but it is "how many methods time/money wise, that AC knows about, are apliable to him, till he becomes a strong esper." (this is what the parameter list is really about) So the real reason there exist level 0 (and probably will continue to exist) is because AC does not know how to turn them into strong espers efficiently (or does not know at all). If you still don't believe, think of it this way - you can have a person, who is a normal person but is a step away from becoming a level 5. A single dose of drug can bring him to level 5 from nothing. But if AC does not know what drug it requires, he will forever stay a normal person. In reverse, if you have a normal person who will require like 1000 doses, but AC knows which ones, he will become a level 5 after a while. You can even apply this to real life science too. For example I watched this discovery channel, where they said, that something like 5 years ago people finally figured WHAT exact conditions are necesary to create cells without multiplicating the old ones, from inorganic material (artificial cells with no DNA). It were absolutely simple and logical proceses, but no one before had any idea about them. And this was just like touching the surfice of a gigantic iceberg... This was the first time I realized how extremly shallow the science really is, if they they took so long to figure out something as simple as that, how long will take them to figure out something really difficult like RNA, DNA or other internall cell structures.. Last edited by zaeraal; 2011-12-29 at 06:05. |
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