(L+CR) Mahou Sensou (Magical Warfare)

[HandofFate]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

the fun thing is if the anime viewers didn't read the synopsis, they wouldn't know Kurumi and Takeshi are a "fake couple", so her reactions would look tame for a girlfriend and so forth.

lol, I didn't read the synopsis. And I didn't even know they're suppose to be a couple before reading this. I just thought she was just a jealous girl that has some affection for him. Makes some of her actions make more sense, but its still very thin, and poorly delivered.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by HandofFate

lol, I didn't read the synopsis. And I didn't even know they're suppose to be a couple before reading this. I just thought she was just a jealous girl that has some affection for him. Makes some of her actions make more sense, but its still very thin, and poorly delivered.

In the beginning of the first episode Kurumi says that they are going out with each other.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Wait wait wait, you mean to say there was a global magic war? And nobody even so much as noticed? And how the hell did that elimination spell or that Gift spell not turn every kid around the world into mages? The previous episode was quite explicit in establishing that so much as getting brushed with a whiff of excess magic turns you into a mage!

Speaking of which, the villain. If you want "a world just for magicians" why don't you just... I dunno... infect every child in the world with magic? It's quite easy, you know.

And what's up with everyone just going "kay, gonna live in another world now." I can get the MC, but why are the other two staying? Blondie looks like he has a little sis. No brother would ever consider abandoning his little sis at the drop of a hat because "oooh, magic" no matter how awesome magic is.

And there is no way you can convince me miss bumbling idiot "oopsie, I had to be protected by amateurs and got three people involved in magic, tehe" is a super S-class mage.

And then there was "Let's swing dangerous weapons at a rookie to test something that may or may not blow his hand of." Yeah, that was a good idea. Aren't you glad he lucked out with his super synergy instead of exploding an arm or, god forbid, you chopping one off?

Blaagh, this anime manages to push all the wrong buttons.

Last Requiem happened after the world was split so the humans of the Ruined World were killed.

It's like Harry Potter. Pureblood magicians probably don't acknowledge mudbloods.

Ida's sister probably has some sort of illness he wants to cure with magic.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Kadi

Wow, you must really want to watch this, considering how reluctant you are to drop it...

Three episode rule, mostly. I've seen many series that started out stupid, but got better after a bumpy start.

That won't stop me from hammering that bumpy start into the ground though.

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

Episode 1 only explained that being in direct influence of magic would turn you into a magician. "Gift" had only influenced the land.

Doubtful, as this would mean a simple flight spell or helicopter could circumvent the Gift effect.

But even that aside, let's say it only affected the land. As a global spell, it affected all the land. People tend to live on land and would thus be touching the land as it was being magicked. Our MC turned into a mage because a bullet magic bullet was shot at him and missed him by about 30 CM. Standing on the land that's being magicked is even more direct contact compared to that.

It's another one of the many "author didn't think this through" moment that tend to crop up in this anime

[Feng Lengshun]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

I was only correcting you on the s-class magician thing. Don't forget they are only students in the end, they can't fight with professional magicians.

Unless the go all Harry Potter, of course, then we'll get student magician beating full-fledged ones. Which considering how much dumbed down the anime was...

[synx]

Is the anime ever going to get into plot? We've just had infodump after infodump.

[Znail]

I wouldn't get too hung up on the elite class thing. Considering that C class is the failure class so is it logical to assume that there is also the A B and S classes. That only makes the S class the top 25% of the students of this school, not some super elective group. She doesn't explode accidentally, so is obviously ahead of the C class.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Doubtful, as this would mean a simple flight spell or helicopter could circumvent the Gift effect.

But even that aside, let's say it only affected the land. As a global spell, it affected all the land. People tend to live on land and would thus be touching the land as it was being magicked. Our MC turned into a mage because a bullet magic bullet was shot at him and missed him by about 30 CM. Standing on the land that's being magicked is even more direct contact compared to that.

It's another one of the many "author didn't think this through" moment that tend to crop up in this anime

Spoiler for Reply (contains info from the LN):

I only said land to put emphasis on the fact that it was cast on the planet, but it seems it wasn't the best word to use.

30 CM? Really now? First you said that people have to be close to the spell to turn into magicians, and now this... Anyway, stream from Mui's bullet did touch Takeshi in the LN.

First of all, adults can't turn into magicians. Second, Gift had no direct effect on the contents of the planet. Third, Gift is a special type hax magic, so it can bypass your conventional rules that were stated in the first episode.

Funny seeing you say that, the author of Mahousen seems to have the same kind of complain, the only difference is that he laments about how anime screen writer screwed his work.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

Spoiler for Reply (contains info from the LN):

I only said land to put emphasis on the fact that it was cast on the planet, but it seems it wasn't the best word to use.

30 CM? Really now? First you said that people have to be close to the spell to turn into magicians, and now this... Anyway, stream from Mui's bullet did touch Takeshi in the LN.

First of all, adults can't turn into magicians. Second, Gift had no direct effect on the contents of the planet. Third, Gift is a special type hax magic, so it can bypass your conventional rules that were stated in the first episode.

Funny seeing you say that, the author of Mahousen seems to have the same kind of complain, the only difference is that he laments about how anime screen writer screwed his work.

So a tiny bit of magic from a spell that didn't even directly hit its target turns you into a mage, but two giant world altering spells that changed the entire world do nothing because "they're special?"

Rather arbitrary, wouldn't you say?

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Keroko

So a tiny bit of magic from a spell that didn't even directly hit its target turns you into a mage, but two giant world altering spells that changed the entire world do nothing because "they're special?"

Rather arbitrary, wouldn't you say?

That's rather a biased way of phrasing it.... If you call that arbitrary, then almost every major LN would be the same for you, that is, they too should contain plot convenient fallacies.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

That's rather a biased way of phrasing it.... If you call that arbitrary, then almost every major LN would be the same for you, that is, they too should contain plot convenient fallacies.

And I call such plotholes out in those stories as well. But most stories at least take the time to explain why the exceptions are exceptions.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Keroko

And I call such plotholes out in those stories as well. But most stories at least take the time to explain why the exceptions are exceptions.

So will Mahousen, just sit back and relax. (assuming you won't drop it (don't think about dropping it at least for Nano))

[Marcus H.]

I wonder what kind of story the author actually wanted to write instead of Mahou Sensou...

ANN: "Even 'Magical Warfare' Original Creator Didn't Think the Anime Was A Good Idea"

[leokiko]

Can't do this anymore, this is too dumb in so many levels. Dropped.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I wonder what kind of story the author actually wanted to write instead of Mahou Sensou...

ANN: "Even 'Magical Warfare' Original Creator Didn't Think the Anime Was A Good Idea"

The author of that post misunderstood few things about the interview there.

Spoiler for The orignal (Japanese) version:

新橋：スズキヒサシ先生、「魔法戦争」ＴＶアニメ放送開始おめでとうございます！いまのご心境 は？

スズキヒサシ：ありがとうございます。いまの心境……やっぱり竹刀突っ込み入るよね（笑）。みたいな感じで す。

新橋：１話の反響はすごかったですもんね……！最初にアニメ化の報せを聞いた時のお気持ちはいかがでしたか ？

スズキヒサシ：ええっと、微妙？メディアミックス全般にぶっちゃけ興味なしだったので。「他にいい作品ある と思いますよ。やめときましょうよ」と言いました。

新橋：最初嫌だったんですか!?でも今は……？

スズキヒサシ：結構おもしろいです。特にやることないかと思ってたら、やることいっぱいあったので驚いてま す。でも、アニメ化していただいてよかったです。

新橋：ここまで長い道のりでしたよね。スズキ先生と二人三脚で作ってきた作品なので、感慨深いです……！最 初に「魔法戦争」の企画が立ち上がったのっていつくらいでしたっけ？

スズキヒサシ：２０１１年みたいです。１巻の裏見たらそう書いてありました。

新橋：２０１１年２月１４日に大阪まで新幹線で行ったら、めっちゃ大雪だったのを憶えてます！

スズキヒサシ：大阪ってめったに雪降らないので、この人持ってるな！と思いました。

新橋：ちなみに、この作品の誕生秘話的なものがあったらぜひ教えてください！

スズキヒサシ：魔法少女みたいなのがいいなぁと新橋さんが言ったので、じゃあそれでいくか、と軽い気持ちで ＯＫしたら、魔法少女違うこれやけに人間関係ギスギスしてる、という作品になってきました。絶賛、脱線中の 魔法少女ものです。

新橋：最初の構想ではピュアな魔法少女ものになる予定だったんですけどね（笑）。今は、そんな構想はどこへ 行ったのかと！人間関係と言えばこの作品、かなり多くのキャラクターが登場しますが、先生はどのキャラクタ ーがお好きですか？ちなみに僕は「五十島くるみ」ちゃんです。ヤンデレは正義！

スズキヒサシ：みんなのアイドル六ちゃんと、みんなの嫌われもの月光くんです。

新橋：なるほど！ちなみに理由は？

スズキヒサシ：六は単純に書きやすいということで、月光はうらやましいほど自分に正直に生きているなぁと思 うので。

新橋：スズキ先生も正直に〆切無理って言いますけどね！それでは、最後に読者の方々へメッセージをお願いし ます！

スズキヒサシ：魔法少女ものなので、ハッピーエンドを目指します。応援よろしくお願いします。

ということで『魔法戦争』の著者・スズキヒサシ先生のインタビューをお届けしました。淡々とした感じでお答 えいただきましたが、作品はアツイ内容となっております。原作もアニメもよろしくお願いいたし ます

People who can read Japanese should understand what I am talking about.

[Marcus H.]

From what I interpret from the translation in ANN, the author doesn't want his work to be lost in translation, but he appreciates the adaptation regardless. He also had other ideas instead of Mahou Sensou, but I think most light novel publishers pitch in ideas more instead of vice versa.

Sp yeah, it's not necessarily a regret of writing such a series, but more of revealing some insights behind working with Mahou Sensou.

[mistress_kisara]

I do agree that the series itself is dumb but I've watched shows that was just as dumb (and I have enjoyed). I'm mostly watching for the seiyuus and the god-tier ending theme

[Allium]

The quality of the visuals are quite detracting from the whole magic setting, and Takeshi, Mui and the other characters come off as bland to me. Anyway, I'll give it one more episode before I decide to keep watching or not.

[FlareKnight]

I thought the second episode was ok. A lot of information, but not a big deal.

Feels ok enough to keep on watching. Some odd things standing out, but as a whole I'm curious enough to keep going.

The winter season has been pretty weak in general so I'll keep on with it.

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by leokiko

Can't do this anymore, this is too dumb in so many levels. Dropped.

Me too... almost at least. Starting the second episode with yet ANOTHER infodump was just too cringe worthy. Like why do I even care what happened in the past, or the classifications of magic, or what happend to the world, when I don't even know basic information about the main quartet?

(Actually that's a lie since I do care about the MC and Kurumi, but that's just my shippy side talking. )

Like I dunno, the director did Gokusen, Pita Ten, and One Outs (the last one being something I thought I wouldn't like but aboslutely loved it). The one doing the series composition did Kamen no Maid Guy, Kampfer, and Ben-tou. All of these were among the best series of the cour they were released in, so these two has talent to make good anime.

But here? It seems like they either aren't trying or don't give a donkey's behind about this project.