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No, cliche isn't a bad thing by itself, is bad when isn't played well. When is well done you can even forget when A and B character is the childhood friend and tsundere type putting that aside and enjoy it, that is what makes it original. Quote:
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If I don't buy her character that's another thing, a very personal, just like some don't buy Tatsuya from Mahouka or Kirito from SAO. I won't deny her developments and if she ends with Eita because that's the author work, not mine, I just have to accept it, isn't like I can do anything against that, you know? For example, I'm fan of Itsuwa and Kaori from Index series and sure damn I ship Touma with the former but I'm pretty well aware that the only character that occupies a big space on Touma's heart is Index(to the point of dying twice for her) so I'm ready if she ends with him . Others has no chance. Quote:
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2014-02-24, 18:46 | Link #262 | |
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Sorry. I'm with Larethian here. "Cliche" is merely a sloppy blanket criticism without real meaning other than "I don't like it, but I don't want to bother voicing a proper complaint". And OreShura is certainly quite different from the vast majority of LNs out there. |
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2014-02-24, 19:42 | Link #263 | |
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ZnT? I remember Luise running away every single damn time Saito feels something for other girls(it was Louise' fault anyway) and wasn't the novel heading towards an harem route? Tabitha was confessing on vol.20.. too bad the author died.
To me is kind of obvious here in Oreshura Mazusu is gonna win, isn't she the main girl afterall? Quote:
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2014-02-24, 21:07 | Link #264 | |
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2014-02-24, 21:32 | Link #265 | |
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2014-02-24, 22:29 | Link #266 | |
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I don't want to single out people here, partly because I don't want to further digress to explain why I'm bothered by something or not bothered by something that certain people did. At least not in this thread. But if you want an example of when 'generic' and 'shit' appears together, you can even find it in signatures if you look for it. There's also an instance where someone with a strong prejudice with WSJ calling everything it has shit and generic shounen then starts babbling about how the editors work and push for series to run when it's far from the truth. Anyway, I'm starting to do what I didn't want to do. You can just keep an eye on all the posts in "Upcoming Series" threads from now on and you will bound to see it one day. Peace. |
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2014-03-01, 20:34 | Link #267 |
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To be honest, even if someone explains why they think a story is generic or shitty, or why a particular scene and/or development was clichéd, what they say still is an opinion. It's an opinion they've bothered to explain, but an opinion nonetheless.
Anyway, welcome back larethian. You were missed man.
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2014-03-02, 23:16 | Link #268 |
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Chinese translators have started their work on volume 7. Hummhumm... xD
On the topic of my personal opinion, I don't think OreShura is as cliche as it could be. It keeps tumbling into the deeper side of all the characters. In fact, that's probably why I enjoy OreShura. Fakeness and Realness -- Yuuji Yuuji really addresses what it means to love someone and the dynamics of those feelings (whether it be insecurities or doubts, or all the loads of feelings you can get while liking someone). It's much more complicated than the character tropes that are initially projected over them. |
2014-03-03, 00:00 | Link #269 | |
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The story is not the most breath taking original of the lot, but that doesn't mean that it's the most predictable of them all. The fact that pretty much everything that has gone so far has been dependant of character relationships has been pretty helpful; and has made some stuff harder to foresee (like, I would have never expected Hime from all people to mature some, nor to "get rid" of the convenient class seat arrangement, and Eita actually having his comical fear of "losing 1st place due to shuraba" was not what I was predicting in the least).
I'm very happy that some classic shounen romcom clichés like 'some random bishounen trying to oppose Eita with "I'm better for her"' or 'some random omai partner "fighting to win Masuzu"' have not been invoked so far. Quote:
edit : Oh, japanzai released another manga chapter.
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2014-03-05, 11:25 | Link #272 | |
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ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ Translations go by chronogical order, so there are some months away from reaching the current volume (in fact, they haven't still taken over the previous summaries, it can't be helped with all of them pages in a novel). My vote? Do what pleases you. Oh, speaking of, doesn't someone know what the insult ニワカ means? one of the puns that I wasn't able to get, it has been bothering me for months ....... Mana-chan ♥♥♥ For those wondering, the manga is still not done with LN vol 4, and they have been taking their sweet time in a semi detailed adaptation of the volume. I'm hoping for the manga to do volume 5, as well; but it looks like it's going to be a while before they get to start that out (they just started the contest, we are close to Masuzu's confession scene, though).
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2014-03-05, 11:26 | Link #273 | |
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2014-03-05, 21:28 | Link #274 | |
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If someone's translating at decent rate, I'd be too lazy to spoil. Read till chapter 4 last night. Chapter 0 seems to be for the readers (so that we don't misunderstand Masuzu like Eita) and JoJo fans lol lol. You get to know Masuzu is more of a fan of the Ripple arcs as opposed to the Stand arcs lol lol. Jonathon and Joseph were more impactful for her lol lol. |
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2014-03-05, 22:24 | Link #275 | |
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Oh, there are 2 translators appointed, and none of them is me however since they seem to be working from the chinese translation and I'm reading the japanese version, I give myself the work of checking any name changes or sentences that didn't carry over properly (a lot of jokes are tweaked or not understood by the chinese side. Some even omited). I'm also the jojo neta dictionary Right now vol 5 & 6 are being worked on, and next will be 6.5, so there it will be a while before 7 gets some love.
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It happens enough to be annoyed by it though. Moreso in manga than LN's as far as I can judge though. Quote:
Side Note: I did not know that she preferred the ripples arc. That's interesting, trivia wise at least. Thanks! Last edited by anonfr; 2014-03-08 at 12:39. |
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2014-03-06, 00:52 | Link #277 | |
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2014-03-22, 06:02 | Link #278 |
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This LN is quite fun. I'm happy to see that it gets updated regularly every 2-3 days.
There is no way Masuzu does not end up with Eita in the end. She is the end girl. If it's somehow Chiwa then the whole plot becomes moot IMO. Hopefully volume 8 is released soon. |
2014-03-22, 12:28 | Link #279 |
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Actually after reading v7 a month ago.......
Don't read my spoiler if you want to use your own judgment as my judgment may be imperfect or overly pessimistic/optimistic. Spoiler for my evaluation from v7:
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2014-03-22, 12:47 | Link #280 | |
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Personally I do feel that the author is building more on the title name sake. After all the first 4 volumes Masuzu got all the juicy bits; and Chiwa had a much lesser serious chance. But after vol 4 (actually, on the very same epilogue of vol 4) I really got this feeling that the author is trying to build things in a way where we can't tell which of them is going to be; and he started that by compensating Chiwa's initial "lagging behind".
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