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Perfect 10 | 20 | 20.62% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 19 | 19.59% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 24 | 24.74% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 17 | 17.53% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 5.15% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 5 | 5.15% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 3 | 3.09% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 2.06% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 1.03% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.03% | |
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2012-02-29, 07:43 | Link #261 | |
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2012-02-29, 10:03 | Link #262 |
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No, I just said that her family is yakuza which is already established since earlier episodes and this kind of behaviour is commonly found in any yakuza families, Italian mafia or gangs around the world. Nothing crazy about it, just it is a common rule in the underworld that members who leave will be killed immediately. So the conclusion is that there's nothing weird or crazy about Grandpa hunting down Arisa, just to me it seems very out of place and pointless about the scene between Arisa and Grandpa.
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2012-02-29, 11:18 | Link #263 |
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i dont know why people are bitching even if you dont condone honor killing (which i dont either) this is a part of the underworld life and tradition and also its obvious that her grandfather valued honor as much as any samurai. In the end he did not kill her he stopped and allowed her to shoot him. That act alone is enough to ascertain his thought process. In the end his "love" for his grand daughter over powered his sense honor. His comment before he died says it all.
I will admit the scene felt out of place but it was probably put there to develop Arisa's character further towards the end.
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2012-02-29, 12:41 | Link #264 |
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I wish Arisa would just go away... She is probably the most annoying character to me now (since glasses dude and his buddy are dead). Her or Eyebrow-kun, who I don't know enough about to really make a judgement.
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2012-02-29, 23:32 | Link #268 | |
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Unless you expect that she wanted to play chess with Shu by using all of those lead bullets from all of those guns. Sadly if you look at it, Arisa death from her Grandafther should be the most reasonable thing. She does deserve punishment as most of the GC cast, and the most rationable would be death from the hands of ones she wronged. She betrayed all her grandfather did for her, by joining GHQ. Yes yes she may not liked the marriage and all that shit, I understand. But disobeying marriage is one thing, joining a mass murder psychopathic organization is other. Unless you think that even if your child would kill hundreds/thousand of people it still ok because he is your child and he is *oh so damn special*. Like it or not grandpa followed Samurai codex you either understand it or stay quiet about his motives. The only thing you can complain about is why did he stop his hand and not kill Arisa, which was against his believes.
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2012-03-01, 00:18 | Link #269 |
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I don't think you get what I'm saying. I was replying to someone who said that he doesn't like honor killings but I really don't think the honor has anything to do with whether killing Arisa is acceptable or not.
Maybe you should read more comprehensively before going into a rant about whether or not I understand the samurai code (it's code by the way not codex and for that matter, for all those people who rant about the samurai code in this topic, are you samurais? Or taken a japanese history class? If not, then wtf do you know about the samurai code as well) or whether I'm complaining about how grandpa should have killed arisa.
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2012-03-01, 08:38 | Link #270 | ||
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2012-03-01, 10:07 | Link #271 | |
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But that's not the point. The point is, if you'd have to kill someone then it would be better to do it for the right reasons. Killing your granddaughter because they've stained the honor of the family name, rather than because they're a threat to other people isn't exactly something I can fully support, and yet that's what the story seems to suggest (Well not really. I don't even think it was an honor killing. It's just what Trudinh suggested). I can support it to the a degree (removing the threat) but not fully.
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2012-03-01, 11:26 | Link #272 |
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I have a question. If Arisa was part of a yakuza lineage why didn't she perform yubitsume instead? This ritual goes as far back as the first prototype samurai. So even if they were somehow samurai in conduct why didn't they do that instead? I don't think attempting to kill Arisa was the best option. If the grandfather felt threatened he could have easily disowned her through legal means.
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2012-03-01, 14:48 | Link #274 | |
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2012-03-04, 12:24 | Link #276 |
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If my memory serves me right then Nobunaga's mentor had performed seppuku after Nobunaga disgraced his father's ceremony, but of course he raised the boy to his title first, and then performed seppuku.
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2012-03-06, 12:53 | Link #277 |
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Maybe he wasn't going to kill her after all? Maybe he was just trying to intimidate her?
He said that he became soft,maybe he couldn't bring himself to kill his own granddaughter? Because he stopped the sword right before it hit,and nothing short of a shotgun or harpoon is going to prevent that sword from connecting.
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