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Haruka, and respondent is male | 259 | 45.52% | |
Haruka, and respondent is female | 54 | 9.49% | |
Mitsuki, and respondent is male | 216 | 37.96% | |
Mitsuki, and respondent is female | 40 | 7.03% | |
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2007-12-24, 12:36 | Link #261 |
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Special cases for everyone it seems...
But I can't say selfish is a good word to use for mitsuki...seriously... If what she did was steal taka while haruka was still fit and well then I would have bashed her like no tomorrow - but the fact that she only did what she did to save the sad bum is another matter. She cared for him like no other person would. If it wasn't for her - he would be a dead man by now (probably starvation). She liked taka yet "gave" him to haruka...and all she wanted was something to remember him by, which resulted in the accident. It was noone's fault imo - an act of god perhaps.
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2007-12-24, 20:22 | Link #262 | |
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for one to live another must die(sounds really barbaric but there is a hidden meaning) example1: when we eat an apple, apple must die for us to absorb its nutrient.. exmaple2: when people download scanlations and dont take the time to learn japanese appropriately so they can go purchase the original japanese manga to support the actually mangaka, they are ignoring the issue therefore making it a selfish act by freeloading (this is very prominent and accepted - therefore it is not a big issue among a lot of people but you cant ignore the fact that it is a selfish act) dealing with selfishness in a healthy or unhealthy way is the real issue it not always clear and exact when dealing with human beings but if u look closer...... btw the characters acted very realistically and i found what each character did what they had to do to move on with their lives in that situation....yes some decisions pissed me off.... and that is what made this such an amazing show because the writers didnt make everything extra convient only complaint is shinji wasnt punish enough Last edited by bbduece; 2007-12-24 at 20:55. |
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2007-12-31, 14:08 | Link #263 |
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I'm a female and I voted for Haruka and I wanted her to be with Takayuki so much, up till the end. But when Haruka finally braved herself to 'let go' of Takayuki, I realised that all was for the best and besides the fact that she deserves someone better, the fact is things could never be the same again between the 3 of them. Her best friend and boyfriend betrayed her - that is a fact which I don't think anyone can or should accept or forgive. A betrayal is a betrayal, no matter what the cause is or under what circumstances, Takayuki and Mitsuki is clearly the person in the wrong here. She did the right thing - to say goodbye to those that betrayed her and to go on with her own life. Therefore, I admire her courage and resolution. Truly, she was not really that weak-minded despite her outward timidity. She's the truest with her feelings, I would say.
By the way, I like the character of Ayane - she scolded Takayuki and Mitsuki well and Mitsuki so deserved the slap that Haruka gave her. In reality, I don't want Haruka to take back the man who has slept with her so-called best friend while she was in a coma. Nobody should. |
2008-01-02, 13:31 | Link #264 | |
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2008-01-02, 18:42 | Link #265 | |
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2008-01-04, 09:03 | Link #266 | |
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2008-01-04, 13:03 | Link #267 | |
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2008-01-04, 15:55 | Link #268 |
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Gosh...you are so argumentative...even now. *sigh* Again, you are free to believe your own interpretations. And I am steadfast to what I believe because I have people who agrees with me (in another forum) and one of them is a therapist. You really have no right to say someone's wrong, you know. You may disagree but you can't say someone is wrong and insists that yours is correct because I can also say that you are not. This is just how people interprets something. I can respect that. Can you? Regardless, thanks for your feedback.
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2008-01-04, 18:27 | Link #269 | |
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You can interpret any way you wish to, however, when it is a glaringly obvious assessment then there is little in the way of interpreting and more in the way of stating what took place. It's not that I am argumentative, I am just steadfast on subjects that I have a fairly sizable amount of knowledge on...in the case of KimiNozo, I would produce that collecting it for almost ten years is a pretty sizable amount of knowledge.
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2008-01-07, 01:58 | Link #270 | |
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2008-01-10, 10:09 | Link #271 | |
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At the beginning Mitsuki has been selfish? maybe, but she was in love Why all you blame her? She take care of Takayuki for 3 years, despite he never considered her a lot... She suffered so much... but people prefer that "sleeping beauty" =_= Years are passed, she couldn't pretend to have all back... (I'm sorry i can't explain better, I'm a little angy for what I read) |
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2008-01-13, 10:35 | Link #272 |
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I voted Haruka, because well, I've always preferred Haruka.
I used to hate Mitsuki's character, but now when I think about it, she gave up everything to keep Takayuki going and he was only really staying by Haruka's side because he felt obliged to and felt guilty over her accident. I still think she's a bit of a skank, but I'll always think that. Though now I think I have a good understanding of it all and don't really mind as much. Last edited by Tabris; 2008-01-13 at 17:23. |
2008-01-13, 15:42 | Link #274 |
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Mitsuki, and respondent is male
People think mitsuki is selfish but she is just a normal girl who is in love with a guy. She gave up everything even her dreams to take care of him. Also takayuki only stayed with haruka because he felt that the accident was his fault. |
2008-01-13, 16:04 | Link #275 |
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the fact that Takayuki had short romantic relationship with Haruka and the extent of how far that relationship actually develop makes the betrayal very arguable....given the situtation i dont think Mitsuki was a 'total boyfriend stealer' and without Mitsuki, poor Takayuki would have died from starvation or guilt
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The anime doesn't portray the passage of time as well as the game simply because it would create a bit more empty space in the story. The game, on the other hand, allowed this to be shown at a deeper degree simply because of the nature of visual novels. Suffice to say, while the anime made it feel like that maybe a few weeks have passed, it's closer to about a few months between the confession and the accident.
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2008-01-14, 04:38 | Link #277 |
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*Sigh* It's been several years, but Kiminozo is STILL the series with the most divided fanbase. Amazing.
Personally, I thought both girls deserved Taka, though obviously he had to choose only one... I voted for Haruka, but I do respect his choosing Mitsuki, just don't expect me to like it too much. I guess the series really showed how our mileages really vary in how we interpreted the events that happened... Maybe someday all of fans on both sides can come to that understanding... or maybe not |
2008-01-15, 11:19 | Link #278 |
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This was a tough one for me because both have their kindness for the person they love. I admire both of them for these reasons:
Haruka was a sweet and innocent girl who was in love AND was able to get loved back. Even after her accident and she continued to be an innocent girl to the very end despite the happiness she had with him. She was a very strong person in mind and body. Mitsuki helped her friend get into the relationship depsite the fact she loved him, she wasn't thinking of herself. Then after the accident, she helped aid Takayuki day and night because without her would lead to his own hospitality and/or most likely death. She gave up her dreams for love. So it wasn't for revenge or anything of the sort. So I can't 100% blame her for going out with him. Takaykui also had the opportunity to stop her from doing what she did (although still was pretty wrecked) can't really blame him 100% either. In the end everyone moved on and thats what really counts... right? (hope he doesn't get hated by people) |
2008-01-22, 15:59 | Link #279 |
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Haruka, respondent female.
Mitsuki is a great character , I have nothing against her. It's just that I don't agree with the "method" she used to snap Takayuki out of his depressed state. Honestly, if they had started the relationship in any other way and then progressed to sex, I would have accepted it. Haruka, in my opinion, is a stronger character than Mitsuki. When Mitsuki found out that there's a possibility that Takayuki might get back together with Haruka, she went out, got drunk, and had sex with Takayuki's friend. When Haruka found out about Takayuki and Mitsuki, she cried in a room all by herself, but she wiped herself up and did her best to get better. It's interesting how Haruka was able to let go of Takayuki when she found out about him and Mitsuki, and yet, when Mitsuki realized that Takayuki might get back with Haruka, she completely broke down. It's almost as if she's...completely dependent on him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but another thing to consider is that the producers made it seem as if Mitsuki had no one there for her, no friends or anything, they were just "conveniently" left out, and the only one there for her took advantage of her drunken state and had sex with her. I guess this could be one of those things that tend to sway the audience subconsciously. Please don't say that Mitsuki really did have no friends as a counterargument, that's just...sad. |
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The other side of the coin is Mitsuki, the constant companion and lover for 3 years. Day in and day out she took care of Takayuki, spending almost every waking, and many non-waking, moments with him over the course. Pushed him to better himself and live his life for the now and not the past. One of the things about the story is the subtle changes between Haruka and Mitsuki. From the beginning Haruka was taken as a docile and quiet person, afraid of much of the surrounding world. Mitsuki was the brash and sometimes overaggressive person, easily challenging all in her path. By the time the story completed you saw an almost complete 180 on each of the characters...Haruka learned to live for herself and take a stand in her life, while Mitsuki learned to step back and let someone else take the lead for a change. These are some strong character changes made and are often overlooked in the whole process of the anime simply because most don't take the sociological and psychological impressions to mind and simply go with their gut feelings. Quote:
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