[SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine

[KasumiZX]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^And Sia and Nerine lost, so it qualifies for this thread~

Btw, because of you I try Molester Man
And realized I had already read it long time ago
Best manga
Molester Man is how Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa should've went

I don't much about kagami no kuni harisugawa is but I do know that in the manga version of shuffle that Sia won

[wuhugm]

^Well, that's why I only put the Shuffle! anime there

@Hujan : It's all about the amount of information regarding the series the readers have

If you've read Nisekoi one-shot, the idea that Onodera had a chance is completely wrong

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Here's how to spot main heroine :

1. Has her name in the title or something referring to her (Toradora, Yuragi Yuuna, Zero no Tsukaima, Hidan no Aria)
2. Is the cover for Volume 1
3. Is beside the MC in the promotional pictures
4. Simply the first to meet and join the MC (Not always, but most of the time in adventure stories)
5. Simply has the most screentime
6. Has something that makes her inseparable from MC (Join Piloting, Life Sharing, Contract, Etc)
7. Is central to the plot of the story, or even she herself is the plot
8. The author said that she's the main heroine

Here's the requirement of a main heroine according to this thread (doesn't need to fit all)

[Hujan]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

You should still use spoiler tag at least.

Anyway yes it's same AS TWGOK, which also happen to be very first in list of Mangas where "main heroine did not win" . Added by Tiger itself. Or look on RnY, where Nashetania is considered to be "main heroine" for sake of thread even if we all know she has different role and Poplar is still considered to be main heroine of WORKING! apparently too.

Edit: Basically Main heroine= 1st volume Cover girl. Most relevant girl early. That's standard for this thread. It was discussed and clarified on every page so far.

as for TWGOK, I will quote Hentaiga post (that answering your question):

Originally Posted by wuhugm

In TWGOK no main heroine yea, but The Goddesses count as one collectively
In Rokka, Nashetania behaved as heroine early on

so yeah not Kami-nii-sama that had same role as Alice.
for RnY Tiger had explain, while in WORKING! is there anyone who disagree that Poplar is the Main Heroine? I think Poplar is Main Heroine too

while at it, I will quote this post, about Wuhugm explaination in Yuyu Hakuso :

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Not really
Botan was a guide through and through
While Keiko always appeared in important moments and had romantic time with Yuusuke so you know she's the main heroine

For Dragonball, there were some ecchi moments with Bulma
For Bleach, there weren't many romantic moments in the first place so we can't say that Orihime is the main heroine

the only thing moment with Alice is when she suddenly appear naked and give him a kiss for the sake to change MC life. well, if Erotora didnt want to change that is fine with me, though. I just give a piece of my mind.

as for 1st volume cover girl, 3 girl appears, and although Alice had bigger picture, but Azrael and MC had a shy interaction. so yeah, who the main heroine?

Spoiler for image:

[wuhugm]

^I don't read that so can't say for sure

We need more voice to decide

The thing with "Support/Guide Type" is they can easily become the winning heroine if they want to

Because they stay the longest with MC

Many of them stay as support like Sasara in Countrouble or Elsie in TWGOK

But if they were turned into a heroine, they would win easily

[Hujan]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Well, that's why I only put the Shuffle! anime there

@Hujan : It's all about the amount of information regarding the series the readers have

If you've read Nisekoi one-shot, the idea that Onodera had a chance is completely wrong
Here's how to spot main heroine :

1. Has her name in the title or something referring to her (Toradora, Yuragi Yuuna, Madan no Ou To Vanadis, Hidan no Aria)
2. Is the cover for Volume 1
3. Is beside the MC in the promotional pictures
4. Simply the first to meet and join the MC (Not always, but most of the time in adventure stories)
5. Simply has the most screentime
6. Has something that makes her inseparable from MC (Join Piloting, Life Sharing, Contract, Etc)
Here's the requirement of a main heroine according to this thread (doesn't need to fit all)

I had read Nisekoi oneshot, IF I hadn't read Nurarohyon no Mago before, I will 100% believe Onodera didnt had a chance, sadly I had read it (the oneshot and manga). in Oneshot, Childhoodfriend is Main Heroine and in manga too. and yet, she didnt win.

also, I questioning about story with two heroine that had main heroine troupe, is because I want to suggest "Kami-sama drop", because I had different opinion about Boku Dake ga Inai Machi about who the Main Heroine is (for me, co-worker is the True Main Heroine, while Childhood Friend is like Onodera, false Main Heroine for baiting audience). I am affraid we had different opinion in Kami-sama Drop too, about who the Main Heroine is, (that's why I am asking about story with two main heroine troupe).

Had you read Kami-sama Drop?

[wuhugm]

^Kami-sama Drop is dropped by the scanlator so I can't continue reading

Co-worker is indeed the main heroine of the future but Kayo is undoubtedly main-heroine of the past
Erased is special coz everyone expected the past to be rewritten completely, means the future kouhai will be gone

Nurarihyon's Grandson -> This title doesn't insinuate the romantic plot at all
Nisekoi/Fake Love -> This is the freaking central theme (but the serialized manga added stupid subplot that is childhood locket)
So not a fair comparison yo

[Hujan]

but in the end she didnt gone, so main heroine win...

maybe it is not fair comparison but you know something called hope right? knowing there is a case like that, "WHAT IF" it happen with this author too...

like in Masamune no Revenge, I pretty sure after the truth came out that yoshino is the one who "dump" masamune, I am 100% Aki will win (because there is no reason to make Yoshino as the one who dump him instead of Aki otherwise) but for the couple next chapter, I cant help but to think "WHAT IF" author had a change of mind...
I think you had a moment like that too..

I had the raw for Kami-sama Drop, although I cant read Japanese yet, but from the picture, it looked the Goddess lose (if you agree with me that Goddess is the Main Heroine).
well, I will upload some chapter in here. maybe you can confirm it.

Spoiler for some pictures in vol 10:

and this is for the last page in the last volume

Spoiler for last volume:

[wuhugm]

^
Banri won
Eru returned to heaven

This is just like Nisekoi if Onodera won

Eru the goddess is the main heroine
Coz unlike Sasara and Elsie, somewhere along the line she became love interest
Also she fits most the requirements stated previously

Kamisama Drop and Nurarihyon no Mago added to the list

[Devaki]

In True Tears Noe is not the Main Heroine?

[wuhugm]

^You meant Noe

No, Hiromi is the main heroine

Even the opening is quite clear

[wuhugm]

BUT WAIT!!!!

Isn't "True Tears" refers to Noe's Lost Tears subplot!?

So she's the main heroine?

I even forgot about that subplot lol

Forgive me, it's been a while, if you can call 10 years a while

True Tears anime added!

[KasumiZX]

Does anime base of visual novel count

[wuhugm]

^As long as it's only single route end

So Yosuga no Sora and Amagami don't count coz they did what-if scenarios

[Devaki]

^ @wuhugm yeah Noe (already edited) it has been a while for me too so I almost forgot about everything, I just remember that she always in the middle or front of promotional image, it might be still debatable.

Anyway if axed manga count : Sexless Friend.

Spoiler for author's rushed ending:

The MC didn't end up with the teacher (even though I ship them) in the end he going out with his first crush yamato nadeshiko girl with a very rushed development because the series going to be cancelled.

[wuhugm]

^Oh yeah, that is one of the case where main heroine should've won

Like that anime Kokoro ga Sakebitagatterunda. which is also in this list

Those are the cases where the main heroine deserves the victory

Added

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

BUT WAIT!!!!

Isn't "True Tears" refers to Noe's Lost Tears subplot!?

So she's the main heroine?

I even forgot about that subplot lol

Forgive me, it's been a while, if you can call 10 years a while

True Tears anime added!

....Took you long enough to realize that

https://forums.animesuki.com/showpos...06&postcount=8

[Devaki]

@tiger Never know you're Jun shipper in KokoSake, for me I think it was a nicely unexpected pairing twist in a while, MC with secondary girl & Main Heroine with secondary guy even though in promotional images and trailers before says otherwise.

About previous topic : so does Garo can be count?

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by Sixth

....Took you long enough to realize that

https://forums.animesuki.com/showpos...06&postcount=8

I'm so sorry

I forgot about Noe's Tears subplot until yesterday

Originally Posted by Devaki

@tiger Never know you're Jun shipper in KokoSake, for me I think it was a nicely unexpected pairing twist in a while, MC with secondary girl & Main Heroine with secondary guy even though in promotional images and trailers before says otherwise.

About previous topic : so does Garo can be count?

I'll add Garo for now, until someone else disputes it

The Love Hotel scene was amazing
THAT is character development
The 2nd girl winning is as infuriating as Natsume's victory in Just Because
That pairing romance is off-screen too, in middle school too
We got more scenes with Komiya
Not fair

[Devaki]

^ I heard the manga expand the story of those two in middle school.

So Jun Naruse is a rare Main Heroine get wrapped into secondary girl fate then?

[wuhugm]

^Yep, losing to inaction girl despite being developed more