2013-05-13, 19:50 | Link #28142 |
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When you peel the platitudes away and look at what the goals are, the only rational excuse is they want to punish anyone who has sex without the intent to procreate.
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2013-05-13, 20:06 | Link #28144 |
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There isn't a 1:1 but there's a Huge Overlap even to the extent of being anti-condom and trying to assert unimplanted fertilized eggs are "people" (which is a problem when nearly every woman flushes fertilized eggs that don't implant).
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I feel that article from Reuters did not provide enough details. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...207178491.html This article provides more detail, the most interesting part are the juries, all of them were pro-choices or had no particular strong opinion on women's right.
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2013-05-13, 20:43 | Link #28147 | |
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2013-05-13, 20:59 | Link #28150 | |
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Also, that trial before, I do not think it should be related in pro-life vs pro-choice debates. It has nothing to do with, the doctor aborted fetuses after 24 weeks, which was against the state law.
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2013-05-13, 21:03 | Link #28151 |
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American Culture Wars stand out in that they're over minor-to-non issues compared to the real problems they're distracting everyone from, tend to involve lengths of absurdity in rationalizing crackpot objectives and views of the instigators, and that they bring the whole world down with their shenanigans.
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2013-05-13, 21:50 | Link #28152 | |
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2013-05-13, 23:05 | Link #28153 |
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I'll stand away over here while ya'll try that "fringe" stuff on da wimmen who feel they're being personally attacked over that and related issues
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2013-05-14, 00:22 | Link #28156 | |
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Gay marriage? Sure. Why not? There's literally no good reason why this shouldn't happen. Every argument against it seems to be based on the religious definition of a word, and the First Amendment prohibits the government from favoring one religion over another. Fake controversy. Contraceptives? They're absolutely necessary for proper family planning and sexual freedom, not to mention some types (i.e. condoms) preventing sexually transmitted diseases. Fake controversy. Abortion? Anyone seen how legalized abortion has dropped crime rates? Dropped rates of dangerous "back alley" abortions? Saved a teenage girl from having her whole life ruined because she did something stupid (which teens are highly likely to do)? Fake controversy. Sex education? We all see how well "abstinence-only" works in the states that practice it which have the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation. Fake controversy. Gun control? An endless procession of feel-good laws that do absolutely nothing useful except cost taxpayer dollars and don't prevent violence arrayed against the incredible political and economic clout of the gun lobby. There are loads of simple solutions here that don't cost much and don't infringe on peoples' freedoms, yet they don't even get talked about. Instead we get yet another fake controversy. The real controversies ought to be looking at Wall Street shenanigans, our absurdly inflated military budget, the sad state of public education and libraries, corruption in government... and get the hell out of our bedrooms and our reproductive organs.
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2013-05-14, 00:27 | Link #28157 | |
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Heck, most of the time abortion is done due to irresponsible behavior. I can't really get why people are so willing to overlook that. |
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2013-05-14, 00:34 | Link #28158 | |
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2013-05-14, 00:44 | Link #28159 | |
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Having a child is one of the biggest responsibilities any average person will ever take on, and it's also one of the most expensive things as well. Should a teenager--probably the time of life when humans make more major mistakes than any other time--have her entire life decimated because she couldn't out-willpower her hormones? Sorry, but I don't have a problem overlooking it at all. I don't think teenagers should have to suffer such massive punitive retribution for stupidity when we already know teenagers are stupidity generators. They need to fail, but not so much it dooms them to a miserable life--not to mention forcing a miserable life on a different human that did not actually make any dumb decisions. Aborting a teen pregnancy is the only responsible and smart decision. Even putting the kid up for adoption is fraught with danger and unknowns--the foster care system in this country is a god damn nightmare and a half. Keeping the baby is just absurd unless the family happens to be wealthy.
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2013-05-14, 00:48 | Link #28160 |
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Wouldn't make the most sense to have that arguement be between women? Since that seems to be the group most effected by such debates. The men don't aways sit back and do nothing, but it effects them the least....physically anyway.
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