2013-05-19, 09:27 | Link #28441 | |
Love Yourself
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 38
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If you feel that it's an easy process to change world views then you likely have an open mind, but you also probably don't believe too strongly in anything. These people have based their entire existence around a popular interpretation of the Bible. Telling them to go outside of it would be like flipping all of the colors in the world for them. They're used to seeing things a certain way, and changing that is jarring.
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2013-05-19, 09:41 | Link #28442 | |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 43
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I just believe that just because something is hard, doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.
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2013-05-19, 10:36 | Link #28444 | |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 43
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"Do not want to change" is not an excuse for anything. It is an emotional desires that has no relevance in reality, it is self delusion. Yes, it is normal to resist change. But if you think that means refusing to change is somehow justified on its own for its own sake, that is foolishness. There are times to hold your ground, and there are times to change one's mind. But if one is incapable of doing either when the circumstances call for it, it is not for us to enable that inability to move on.
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2013-05-19, 10:49 | Link #28446 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 43
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Anything and everything that isn't taught by the people in the Middle Ages.
link related. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...-narrow-minded
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2013-05-19, 10:50 | Link #28447 | |
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dai Korai Teikoku
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Who are you to dictate someone is a problem for not wanting to change? If you cannot understand that, then there is no use in discussing with you. |
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2013-05-19, 11:37 | Link #28449 | |
Moving in circles
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 49
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Rightly or wrongly, each side has its own worldview. Let's see how successful you are in drawing one side to the other. It's as Ledgem said. For Catholics and Christians, it comes down to the extent to which they question the authority of God as set out in the Bible. For many of them, it's a much more wrenching dilemma than outsiders realise. You may see it differently if you're a free-thinker or atheist, but I'd challenge you to put yourself in front of a mirror and ask what you believe, and whether you'd drop principles that have otherwise worked for you all your life. If it's an easy thing, then you probably never believed in it as strongly as people of faith believe in God. Therein lies the difference. |
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2013-05-19, 12:11 | Link #28451 | ||
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 43
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Wrenching dilemma? That's laughable, if it wasn't so sad. If they could, they would cut off my head rather than face the music. I find that fact very comforting in allowing me to feel no sympathy for them. Principles that no longer worked, HAS to be dropped. We can do it because we are human, because we can fight instincts. The only question is if you are prepared to tell when to do so.
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2013-05-19, 13:09 | Link #28453 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
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True, but on the other hand not all beliefs and views are of equal value. Views that are in conflict with fundamental human rights are on shaky ground. |
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2013-05-19, 13:27 | Link #28454 |
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dai Korai Teikoku
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"Fundamental human rights" is in itself another value that can be changed. Ultimately no values are fundamental.
Thinking that there are any fundamental values is in itself a delusion. We accept certain values as "fundamental" because that's what we learned. |
2013-05-19, 16:04 | Link #28460 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
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In the case of gay marriage rights, the gay couples can expect real benefits in terms of legal positions etc. from the right to marry, while the opponents lose none. Their argument is based on having their world view harmed. This loss does not hold up to what the other side has to gain based on what we perceive as fundamental rights. |
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current affairs, discussion, international |
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