2013-02-18, 08:14 | Link #2861 |
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I got a question:
Isn't it kinda hax that Hiruzen was able to perform Dead Demon Consuming Seal with two shadow clones, and still be alive? I mean, normally, the technique takes your own soul as well. Can this be avoided by the use of shadow clones? In that case, why didn't Minato use a shadow clone instead, to save his own life?
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2013-02-18, 09:57 | Link #2862 | |
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He jumped in front of the Kyuubi's Claw as well as Kushina just in order to stop it from hitting Naruto. They would die anyway, so he just used the remaining seconds of his life for that jutsu. Same was with Hiruzen's fight with Orochimaru, he had him binded, he could not perform a Shadow Clone at that time, if he would try, Orochimaru would do something else to finish him without having his hands sealed. |
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2013-02-18, 10:05 | Link #2863 | |
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2013-02-18, 10:30 | Link #2864 | ||
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But Orochimaru didn't have Hiruzen binded until he grabbed him and started the sealing process already. Tobirama's genjutsu was undone as soon as Hiruzen's shadow clone sealed him, so he could have made a new shadow clone to send after Orochimaru. Quote:
So if I'm getting this right, that means if you're using a shadow clone to conduct the sealing process, and seal the soul in your shadow clone, then you yourself aren't affected. Which means you can pretty much cheat death?
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2013-02-18, 11:14 | Link #2865 | |
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Anyway Hiruzen couldn't took them without any impact on himself, the moment he used the Shinigami he was doomed, it's just that the act of sealing doesn't kill the user instantly. Neither Minato nor Hiruzen died right after they sealed their target(s) but the moment they released the jutsu their souls went along with it. |
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2013-02-18, 13:28 | Link #2866 | |
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2013-02-18, 13:40 | Link #2867 | |
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also, in regard to your statement about only being able to seal one soul, it's as Hunter said and there is no such limitation. consider minato sealing the kyuubi. what is the weight of half the kyuubi's chakra? it's not really comparable to one person's soul. basically, i think you can seal whatever you are able to before the reaper claims your soul |
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2013-02-18, 13:45 | Link #2868 | |
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Firstly, the reason Hiruzen only sealed his arms was because he didn't have the strength left to pull out his entire soul. Taking someone elses soul apparently depends on the user's own physical strength. Hiruzen was pretty much out of chakra and besides that he had a Sword of Kusanagi stabbing him right through the chest. Also, Hiruzen is screwing around for quite a while since the time he summoned the Shinigami. First he sealed both Hokage, which took a fair amount of time, and then he still had to fight Orochimaru normally for a bit in order to create an opening to grab him. It also seems like the user controls when the Shinigami "cuts the deal" and takes the soul of the victim. Usage of the technique kills the user. But technically, if you don't take someone else's soul, you didn't "use" the technique yet. And that's why I ask, if you have a shadow clone do the sealing, what happens to the real version of the user? Hiruzen wasn't notably affected at all, he was still fit enough to make Orochimaru sweat and leave himself open.
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2013-02-19, 15:34 | Link #2869 | |
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The only question is what happen if a clone activates the jutsu while the original ninja chills somewhere else. |
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2013-02-19, 16:23 | Link #2870 |
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I don't think the jutsu can be activated by just a clone. When Hiruzen used it, he used all three at once. Then again, it might be possible. I wouldn't like it to be honest as that would make this jutsu even more broken.
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2013-02-23, 00:25 | Link #2872 |
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If Itachi was a spy, then what info was he feeding them exactly? Seems like Jiraiya was the spymaster. It's pretty obvious that the Leaf had no idea what Pain ofthe immortals' powers were, something that Itachi should have known and shared with his real masters.
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2013-02-23, 00:54 | Link #2873 | |
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2013-02-23, 01:28 | Link #2874 | |
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Instead I have him retelling the massacre in about 5 different ways, each time changing a little here and there. |
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2013-02-23, 02:18 | Link #2875 | |
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2013-03-09, 17:01 | Link #2879 |
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Here's another question:
After the Five Kage Summit, Gaara met up with Naruto and shared his opinion on Sasuke. Somewhere in the conversation, Gaara said "This is also a war to protect you." This happened in the manga and anime. My question is, how could Naruto ever be fooled into thinking he was actually being sent on a faraway mission in the Country of Lightning? From Gaara's words, Naruto should have figured it out easily.
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2013-03-09, 18:12 | Link #2880 | |
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