2012-11-08, 12:04 | Link #2922 | |
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Romney Banned assault rifles in MA back as governor. Just saying some of these gunowners are so far from reality it is not even funny. |
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2012-11-08, 12:25 | Link #2923 | |
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2012-11-08, 12:41 | Link #2924 | |
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Realistically, I doubt Obama is going to do much as far as gun control goes, and neither would the democrats in general. I doubt they want to lose the chance to reclaim some of those house seats in 2014. Also, Gundamfan, you can always order the ammo online if it's that bad in CO locally, I haven't really noticed any shortages from the sites that I usually buy from My issue with the whole AGW debated is that there are so much money and political interest mixed into the pile it's hard to figure out what is tainted and what isn't, both in the cause and the effect department. |
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2012-11-08, 12:47 | Link #2925 |
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@kyp - Er, if I recall the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) expired in 2004 and was not renewed. I'm talking about assault rifles, not machine guns.. I believe GundamFan was talking about private ownership and seeking ammo for weapons such as the FN FAL which is a light automatic rifle .. I could be wrong but I'm not American so I'm not 100% sure
Re: AGW -- Well, we're a fact and reason based society right? I propose we do a grand experiment! Purposely puncture a hole in the ozone layer or purposely spread greenhouse gases above the "Competitive Enterprise Institute" and see what happens! I mean .. there should be no ill effects of any kind right? Now.. how do you get enough giant fans to keep those clouds there.. Cannot currently predict the outcome |
2012-11-08, 12:53 | Link #2926 | ||
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The Assault Weapons Ban is media word nonsense. Assault rifles have been banned since the 1930s as they are classed with machine guns. "Assault weapon" is a made up term for guns that look like assault rifles, but aren't. The US M1 Garand uses the same ammo as the FN FAL, and it isn't a assault rifle
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2012-11-08, 13:06 | Link #2927 |
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I, in general, simply hate any attempts at fear mongering to subvert or suppress any issue where we're forced to take sides and no compromise. Politicizing issues like the climate, or global warming won't stop the effect that are increasingly evident. Whether or not we can effectively do something about it rather than get in the way of doing anything is what at stake. Yeah, I agree with you to a certain degree, but the affect can't be readily brushed aside as someone's agenda even if we don't all agree with what's causing it.
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2012-11-08, 13:07 | Link #2928 | |||
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Is the globe warming? yes; does humans contribute to the warming? very likely, but as for how much.... hard to say either way; Is warming going to permanently destroy the planet like some of the AGW proponents have been saying? not remotely true, unless we're all living on a planet that has already been destroyed multiple times Quote:
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2012-11-08, 13:26 | Link #2929 |
Gamilas Falls
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The problem people tend to have over Global Warming, is that its been politicized into only being about us humans. We are the beginning and ending of it as far as politics goes. When it comes up, the fight over its existance entirely revolves around us. Those that sign on to the idea are seen as thinking humans caused it and must fix it. Those that are against it think that we humans could not have done enough to cause any of this and should not be held accountable for what they see as a natural cycle.
That the debate in politics has degenerated to a battle over if humans did or did not cause global warming, entirely distracts from anything meaningful. Who cares if we did it or not. The issue should be to find out if we can fix it, or if we even need to fix it. If this is a natural cycle, would us "fixing" it make things worse? Is the Climate change natural? We have evidance that the Earth warms and cools over time and regions change. Ice Ages happen, and tropical regions expand and contract. If it is unnatural and our efforts are making things worse, than we have to prove it and that is trickier that just figuring out if they cycles are off or not. That isn't to say that we can't effect it, making it happen faster than it should, not altering the cycle. It is just that our planetary record keeping doesn't go far enough back to know how the changes happen and over what period of time. Only that regions change over time (fossil records are good but narrowing down to a year over the course of a million years is tricky. But you need to have a fossil from what the changes happened, and the planet does't always give us the fossils we want). The secondary problem is the enviromental laws that spring up "because of global warming". How many of those are real and how many are excuses to place fines, taxes, and other methods of gaining money for either the government or various corperations? How effective are they? Are they helping or hurting the cycles?
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2012-11-08, 13:32 | Link #2930 | |
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FYI, in 90-99% of my posts I am either being sarcastic or facetious.. So no I don't expect to actually conduct an experiment over that particular headquarters..
@kyp -- Understand. Let me revise my SWEEPING DECLARATION: "All firearms should be highly controlled" I'm done now. Thanks. Quote:
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2012-11-08, 13:56 | Link #2931 | |
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On a lighter note, anyone's got a link to that clip where Megan Kelly tells off Carl Rove where she says and I quote: "Is this the math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better, or is this real....?"She brings that up when Carl Rove was upset how Fox News called Ohio in favor of Obama when only 74% votes were in. Also I learned after watching Colbert Report from election night that California had a proposition that would require the pornstar's to use protection. Did that bill pass? May be Ithekro can fill us in....
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2012-11-08, 14:09 | Link #2932 |
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Hawaii sends nation's first Asian American woman to Senate
"I bring quadruple diversity to the Senate," Hirono said at a rally earlier in the campaign. "I'm a woman. I'll be the first Asian woman ever to be elected to the U.S. Senate. I am an immigrant. I am a Buddhist. When I said this at one of my gatherings, they said, 'Yes, but are you gay?' and I said, 'Nobody's perfect.'" http://www.mercurynews.com/elections/ci_21947729 Signs point to yes (close enough) |
2012-11-08, 14:19 | Link #2933 | |
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2012-11-08, 14:32 | Link #2934 |
Gamilas Falls
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There was a Proposition on Human Trafficing that won in all counties in California (Prop 35), where the only group that seemed to be against was "Erotic services".
If there was one for porn stars to use protection this year, it must have been a local messure: *found* Messure B in Los Angeles County And it "passed". Though the ballots in Los Angeles are still counting those that were mailed in and would take two to three weeks for a final result. The Porn industry had threated to leave the state if passed. One can find all the California Propositions and Messures (or a way to find them) here. It also lists all the proposed ones that didn't make it.
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2012-11-08, 15:02 | Link #2935 | |
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Good job on passing the Human Trafficking proposition, however... Thanks for the info Ithekro.
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2012-11-08, 15:13 | Link #2937 |
cho~ kakkoii
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Got it! I guess the intended-goal here was to see if it would pass in one county and if it does, then perhaps start a wider push which ultimately may lead to a state-wide ban eventually. Future will tell. I still find it hilarious, but it also tells me Conservatism is still alive in California, especially when I read in the list that "End the Death Penalty" did not pass.
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2012-11-08, 15:23 | Link #2939 |
Gamilas Falls
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That one failed by about half a million votes. Possibly because there are people that really don't want to pay taxes for someone to live the rest of their life in prison (which seems to be more confortable than it was in the 1930s). The arguement is, why spend X thousands to millions of dollars on someone who will be in prison for the rest of their life, be it one day or 80 years, rather than spend less and kill them.
Many of those would rather we return to firing squads or use snipers at the prison courtyards to execute sentance (fear of nt knowing when the sniper will execute you is thought might change the prespective of people wanting to revolve in and out of prison). Some say they'd volunteer to pull the trigger and only charge the state for the price of the bullet. (even give the criminal his or her choice of caliber to be used on them). They'd probably like a Prop that sped up the execution process rather than having people sit on Death Row for twenty or more years.
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2012-11-08, 15:33 | Link #2940 | |
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Personally I think the death sentence should be kept around, but there are definite improvements that should be made in the system, especially when you consider the number of deathrow inmates who were eventually exonerated/proved innocent. For cases like Loughner etc. where there is literally zero doubt on the other hand, a quick trip to the courtyard with a 9mm would be nice. |
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