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But in my opinion the visitation rights laws are quite outdated... It would be best if people are simply viewed upon as people. However a lot of people would call you a homophobe if you don't give away your own place for a black person and it is often not even the black person's fault. I noticed that the use of double standards about rasicsm is most prominent among white people trying to be "knights in shining armor" about the discriminated people and not the discriminated people themselves.
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2013-08-01, 09:45 | Link #29763 | |
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i.e.: the only one I critisized here are the "overzealous anti-racists", as you call them.
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2013-08-01, 09:54 | Link #29764 |
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Then why did you even bring them up in the first place, if not as an excuse to oppose what you perceive as oppression from the anti-racist, anti-homophobe crowd? Heck, let's back up a bit. How are those guys overzealous, precisely? Did some asshole demand your seat in an actual bus based on your presumably white color? Or do you consider demanding equal rights to marriage and divorce and everything in between for homosexuals to be over-zealous?
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But even though you did it first, I nonetheless did the same mistake, so I did not really do much better. So let us not derail the discussion any further, as to answer your question, I would have to. But if you want to know my personal stance about racism, I can tell you: It is stupid. It used to be the a bit more understandable "fear of the unknown", when black people appeard to the public eye of europe for the first time. But today it is just stupid... and as we know stupidity cannot be cured. If the environment conditioned someone to be rasicst, it is usually too late for that person. I think the laws regarding marriage need a complete overhaul, as they are, in my eyes, very outdated. (Though the details differ, depending on which country you are talking about). The overhaul, for which my example was one possibility, should of course include the matter of homosexual marriage as well. Any economic benefits, for ANY couples should have a good reason aside from "they are married". Of course all the things like visitation rights should be always included in the effects of marriage, completely detached from the economic matters.
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Civil Rights Movement. Very similar to what's going on now with homosexuals, just not as easy to tell since it isn't a skin color. |
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But today it doesn't work that well anymore, because the "other side" simply does counter-movements and that "other side" is usually the one that is holding more money than the opposition and the media don't really help. The only things that can have a similar effect as the civil rights movements of the past, are lots and lots of money and/or smart use of the internet. The letter obviously reffers to the ACTA protests.
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Because when you do, especially when you abstain from saying exactly what they did, it looks like, while you're refusing the label of racist/homophobes, you nevertheless wish those people would stop making a stir. That they'd know their place, maybe, accept the statu quo and stop demanding to be treated by equals under the law, at least until such a time as the (endless) supply of "more important" issues has been dealt with. |
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The ones I am talking about are not really "overzealous". I think "mindless followers" would be more correct. Under the disguise of "being on the good side and fighting against evil", a lot of politicians try to use certain civil right movements for their own gain, for example to gain popularity. They then throw around words, while twisting the meanings of them, however technically they never lie to the people, so political enemies cannot use those words against them. An example for such a word would be "tolerance". A lot of people understand it as "live and let live" and in worst cases some even use it as a synomym for acceptance. But actually the word originates from the Latin word "tolere", which means "(to) carry". Yes, tolerance actually means "to bear the burden of living with other people whose lifestyle you cannot accept". But as I said most people are unaware of it and throw it around like candy. Actually even the mass media do that... Of course this seems like simply nitpicking on the definition of a word, but what does this tell you? If the politicians and media can "define" words as they see fit, then WHAT ELSE could they "define"? Obviously almost everything. And as they do so, the things that are defined by them will start to be associated with the things that they talk about. In other words: the people are conditioned. I actually have to admit that the example with the bus does not really fit what I talk about very much, but that which I call media(/politicans)-induced-prejudice DOES exist. I think this should be enough proof. @KiraYamatoFan: I gave Anh_Minh the warning that I didn't want to derail the thread, but he wanted the answer so much. But you are right, we should drop this discussion now. So, Anh_Minh if you want to continue the discussion, then create a new tread. As far as I am concerned, I have nothing to add.
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2013-08-01, 15:48 | Link #29771 |
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Last word is mine, then.
I still don't see that this has anything in particular to do with civil rights fight. In any parade, you'll find politicians trying to take credit. In any cause, you'll find idiots. That this is the case for anti-video game people (and how anecdotal your "proof" is! Not that you're wrong, there are plenty of idiots who want to ban video games for spurious reasons) says nothing, one way or the other, on the subject of equality. Especially as I don't think there's much overlap between the "think of the children" crowd and the "gays are people too" crowd. |
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Russia gives Snowden asylum, Obama-Putin summit in doubt
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9700N120130801 Berlusconi conviction leaves Italian government hanging http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9701HD20130801
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I'm sure he will get some "tender" care from his fellow inmates, since rapists seem to be a fine delicacy in prison (although I think I heard that he is in solitary already because of such "tender" care happening already?).
I never understood the 1000+ year sentences. Is it done just to make things easier on the books? I know that they come about from multiple different charges stacking on top of each other. But to it sounds like something a 5 year old would come up with along the lines of "Nah ah! You're out for infinity plus 1 turns!"
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Even when jobs return, Detroit's workers fall short on skills
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97107C20130802 Iran's Rouhani misquoted in remarks on Israel: state TV http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9710GN20130802
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