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Welcome to the fold. Also, most of us said 'vaporized', which is more or less the same as 'consumed' if you look at its effect. Either way, 'destroy' is just a general term to describe it, we all pretty much got the hint that it's a big bang (not literally, of course)
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2007-04-09, 00:16 | Link #282 | |
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Depending on how many secondary/physical effects the weapon has it could easily destroy a much larger area. Of course, it could easily have none being magical...
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2007-04-09, 04:31 | Link #283 | |
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2007-04-09, 06:41 | Link #285 | |
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2007-04-09, 08:06 | Link #289 | |
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Or, it could be that Starlight Breaker works like Cyflash, and is selective on which targets it destroys ^^;;;
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2007-04-09, 11:16 | Link #290 | |
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The 2nd setting deals physical damage, plain and simple. The most recent example of that would be Nanoha using Divine Buster to blow away the statue and the roof in the 1st episode of StrikerS. No decent minded mage would use this setting aggressively, unless he/she really wants the target dead. Starlight Breaker on this setting would probably be powerful enough to leave city-sized craters in the ground. So why was there this huge plume of water when Starlight Breaker impacted the sea when Nanoha was obviously using the 1st setting? My guess would be that the water somehow reacted to the magical energies. Or perhaps there was residue heat or kinetic energy within the attack that needed to be expended somewhere, and so Nanoha chose to blast it on the water so as to spare Fate. You guess is as good as mine.
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2007-04-09, 15:26 | Link #291 | |
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2007-04-09, 16:53 | Link #292 |
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So we've now got 'magic->magic->magic' ('no-damage'), 'magic->magic->physical' (damaging the physical world directly with magical energy, 'real damage'), 'magic->physical->physical' (damaging the physical world indirectly with physical effects created by magic, 'indirect damage') and 'physical->physical->physical' ('hitting things').
Another hypothesis on the SB secondary effects issue: maybe 'real damage' breaks through barriers better (it sure seems like weapons can smash barriers better than anything short of a collection spell) so mages always have an incentive to be dealing at least some real damage in a serious fight. Nanoha did claim she was going all out- maybe she really did use full power and Fate's armor was just strong enough to keep her alive? I'm with the above on the point that their attacks have to be a least a tiny bit physical though. If you can see it, it emits light (or excites particles it passes through to the point where they emit visible light), and therefore has physical effects. Obviously even the 'magic->magic->magic' damage setting interacts with the physical universe somehow, or it'd be invisible. Unless one just goes with the 'filmed in mage-o-vision' excuse.
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2007-04-10, 16:42 | Link #294 |
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It's funny how YnS's SB causes quite a bit of blast effect, without the shockwave, and without blasting the district to rubble. There's unfortunately always going to be a lot of plot drive in these kinds of stories, or else the author's would have too many consequences of these battle's to account for in the story. Like, although at the ending of S1, when Testarossa'S Fortress of Solitude was collapsing (and the seeds were activated) Uminari City (and theoretically the whole world) was experiencing an
earthquake, because of the dimensional disruption. No mention, or signs of, devastation caused by eruptions and earthquakes one might expect to be triggered by a planet-wide tremblor (even if it's pretty low on the richter scale) Or, after firing of the rainbow gun :P, which had pretty amazing looking effects, noone seems to have noticed any effects from a magical super nuke. What, no blinding light in orbit lighting up the night sky, or possible "leaking" physical effects like EMP , gravity waves, EM radiation, no satellites knocked out, or even in the way? Few author's or producer's of series are really concerned with logical consistency, or "retconning" wouldn't be needed. That sort of detail simply goes to deep for the purposes of hammering out a weekly television series. I do like to try to piece together "the way things work" for these kinds of stories, alas, the fudge factor will always remain quite large. |
2007-04-10, 17:55 | Link #296 | |
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real leery of getting saddled with higher command. Not too mention, it would make it more difficult for Hayate to get her assigned to the new Unit. Can't, for instance, have a Lt Col. reporting to another Lt. Col. Not in a normal Table of Organization, anway. |
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2007-04-10, 18:14 | Link #297 |
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Except that this is Nanoha, the TSAB is a bit more like a police force in terms of action, and their admirals command ships from the field. Even the enforcers do paperwork. Based on what we've seen, it does not seem like you just get a desk job. If the case of Admiral Lindy is at all indicative of the process, you have to be willing to stop doing field work.
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2007-04-10, 19:05 | Link #298 |
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Since the TSAB seems to promote at least partly on the basis of individual power they certainly have an incentive to keep their officers on the front lines.
I'm surprised they don't seem to encourage Graham's solution more for the high-power high-rank individuals, though- make familiars to keep your magical power in play while your brain and admiral's stars stay back at headquarters.
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2007-04-10, 19:45 | Link #299 |
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Hence my fear that Commodore Harlaown would be taking his mother's place in firing the Arc-en-Ciel (You know they're just itching to use it again...) for this season instead of being out there slicing, binding or freezing stuff.
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2007-04-10, 20:32 | Link #300 |
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Why not do both then? I'm not worrying much. Chrono is someone who (fortunately) the producers are willing to flesh out. Just a guess, but I'm pretty sure that he would be able to show off a good performance in the field like the past two seasons. The only worry I have is him not getting a decent solo battle with a boss class enemy. He definitely could handle that much, considering that he should be around or maybe above the Aces' levels.
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