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View Poll Results: Psycho-Pass - Episode 17 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 44 | 51.16% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 22 | 25.58% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 12.79% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 6.98% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.16% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.16% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-23, 21:41 | Link #281 | |||
Sensei, aishite imasu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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What's "mindless empathy" for a regular person is NOT the same as "mindless empathy" for a serial killer turned delusional god ruling over a society. Touma very likely does consider all emotional feelings to be mindless from his perspective. The fact that the Sybil is willing to risk so many peoples lives just to bring Makishima in hardly seems a good indicator for the collective possessing empathy. Quote:
All we know for sure is that Touma was really implying that you have to be an asymptomatic criminals in order to be a sybil candidate. And considering that no means have been brought up in terms of identifying or tracking Asymptomatics despite how useful it would be in capturing Makishima (which Sybil WANTs to have happens) aside from an old fashioned police investigation, I don't think they have clinical manners to ID asymptomatic criminals from the general populace. At which point, the only explanation we have as to where new Sybil brains comes from is from Asymptomatic criminals who get brought in. And considering the escalatingly villainous behavior on Sybils part, I doubt we're gonna get any tear jerkers about how it's really actually quite nice. Quote:
Mind. This isn't to say that Akane might not be Criminally Asymptomatic. Though if she WAS, I'd frankly argue that means the Sybil brains have a limited understanding of the condition.
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2013-02-24, 00:05 | Link #282 | |||
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It's more pausible that they all were like Senguji, and only became criminals afterwards. Having said that, Akane is in a unique position to be noticed by Sibyl because the circumstances surrounding her eg. Gino's report and relationship with Makishima and Kogami, records of the memory scoop. Also, what about the "promotion" that Sibyl keeps stringing Gino along? Perhaps that is the other way to join in? Quote:
As for the Makishima situation, them caring about the lives of "sheeps" instead of obtaining greater knowledge would be mindless empathy. Knowledge, which in their "minds", helps them transcend (further) them beyond what a single individual can achieve. One could argue that Sibyl/the collective brains empathized with Touma being unique in his way of thinking and him being lonely because of this, and they accepted Touma despite his crimes, because his intellect is more valuable than the crimes he committed. In any case, they used the words "aimless empathy", not "no empathy" so someone like Akane can fit the criteria. Quote:
If they expected it to be a natural resistance, then it wouldn't explain why Gino still went and asked his father why Akane can keep her hue low, because he doesn't seem to accept that as an answer. From a story perspective, there have been many signs of her low CC which fit the criteria of what Sibyl is looking for. eg. She did not kill Makishima (ie. did not let her emotions get in the way). Thoughlessly talked about her job/life to her friends and Kagari, despite them being in a crapper situation (ie. no mindless empathy). I'm not going to bring in any ep 18 examples since that'd be spoilers (though saying this is probably a spoiler in itself? :S ), though there are also many more examples in the previous episodes, as well, which I'm too lazy to write out. |
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2013-02-24, 02:01 | Link #283 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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People like Akane are what we need in government. But the political system in the story is directly incompatible with people like her. No one is above the law, even law enforcers. That's Akane's view. And as such Sybil with its permanent attitude of being above the law simply can't co-exist with her. One of them has to die, one way or another. I hope Akane lives.
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2013-02-24, 22:09 | Link #284 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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Really. Short of brainwashing, somebody like akane simply incompatible with the Sybil leadership system. She'd do nothing but stand in constant opposition to the other members.
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2013-03-04, 02:22 | Link #285 | |
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Anyways, it seems that the secrets in Psycho-Pass are much less interesting than I imagined from the last episode. Why do the creators still want to make Makishima the main antagonist? These developments just serve to remind me of better shows and films. Blech.
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2013-03-04, 18:24 | Link #286 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Catching or killing Makishima solves nothing. People like him have always existed and always will exist in the future. The point isn't about having a villain to kill, but showing how regressed the artificial and self-contained dystopia has become. Makishima is not the disease, but the symptom. His ability to run rampant is just a side effect of a government that doesn't work properly.
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2013-03-04, 19:30 | Link #287 |
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I agree with all of your points. Aside from Kougami and the Sibyl System, nobody really cares about Makishima. Sure they'd love to pin his crimes on him, but it doesn't really go all that much further than that. Akane has personal reasons to get him, but even that got closure when she socked him. I thought that Makishima's arc and character potential was all wrapped up when he got captured, so I was really surprised and disappointed that the show still wanted to set him up as the main antagonist.
It's all the worse since we had a clear opportunity to shake things up. The cast would then have to shift their attentions on the problems of the Sibyl System and all of the ramifications that would entail. Instead, we revert back to the status quo.
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2013-03-04, 19:34 | Link #288 |
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I am sure the story will drag us back to the issue of Sybil evidentially. I like to think many of the characters try to focus on Makishima in order to avoid the issue of Sybil; like, if they just catch him they can start to pretend their system of government would then be perfect again. Like some massive denial.
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2013-03-04, 22:22 | Link #289 | |
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The problem with that idea of using Makishima as an excuse is that none of the characters have put any actual effort into thinking about him or looking into ways of capturing him. Instead, it's all been about trying to bring Kougami into the team, worrying about what will happen to Kougami, fighting against the constraints set on the team, and the like.
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2013-03-17, 19:11 | Link #290 |
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Tehe, the government is run behind the scenes by megalomaniac sociopaths who wish to impose their ego on all, at the sacrifice of human lives and call it justice. Nothing new. :3
It was pretty obvious they wanted Makishima's brain. But they were pretty stupid to think they had him in their clutches so easily. Makishima clearly needs a Batman to stop him.
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