2006-02-08, 07:42 | Link #282 |
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There's an interesting interview with the director here. (In Japanese.)
When I read that the director found the idea of things being true only when they are observed interesting, I *finally* got the connection between Schroedinger's cat and that thing about what Haruka sees is what comes true... In that interview he said "量子論では観察することによって存在が確定する(※1)という考えがあり面白いなと" - "I found this notion in quantum physics, where something exists because it has been observed, quite interesting" So it's like Schroedinger's cat where you don't know if it's dead or not until you've seen it. Although I don't know where to go from that... dead brain... slooow... waiting eagerly for ep 17, I've seen screencaps of it and it looks good enough. Though ep 18 seems like it's going to be even better, it's got an interesting title... Spoiler:
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2006-02-08, 09:42 | Link #284 | |
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Untill you've opened up the box, the cat is both alive and dead, because the probabilities of it being alive and being dead are equal. But when you see it, it stops being both and becomes something coherent, either this or that. So, the fact that we observe something makes it less "ambiguous" and more "real". But the point is similar. |
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2006-02-08, 10:57 | Link #285 |
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Wow, 17 was actually a great episode. I disargee that the fight was less dramatic than Fukurou vs. Karasu. Of course, that one had extra friends-fighting-against-each-other drama added to the mix, but I though that Kosagi and Karasu managed to have a fight that was unlike all the previous ones.
Karasu vs. Isuka was in the forest. Karasu vs. Atori were mostly air battles. Karasu vs. Fukurou was fought over the bay. Karasu vs. Kosagi seemed to be a first true urban fight. I loved the way they used man-made things in their fight, like evading through the strrets and fighting on an airplane wing. Very cool, in my opinion. And I am very much interested in what Amamiku had to say. Something about dimensions and electron spin... Spoiler for next episode:
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2006-02-09, 19:10 | Link #286 | |
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The fans of the gobbledygook science of Noein might want to read this fun little article I found via link on Slashdot.
Nasty Little Truth About Spacetime Physics Nothing Can Move in Spacetime! By Definition! http://www.rebelscience.org/Crackpots/notorious.htm Just one quote says it all. Quote:
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2006-02-10, 01:25 | Link #287 |
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Dont read it.
Even if you nothing about quantum mechanics, reading this bullshit will make you dumber. The guy doesnt even know basic calculus and the bullshit he posted is proven wrong in all kind of everyday effects. not to mention that all three words in the url should make big warning lights flash... And about the schrödingers cat: its not equally likely for it to be death or alive. You CAN calculate the propobilitly of it being alive. Obviously it WILL drop with time. But only if you take a look, it will be realized. Take as a example the young double slit experiment, with electrons: You send electrons against those slits, and each is observed as a dot on a screen. If you close one slit for 5 second, you will get a peak on a screen behind the one left open (a Sinc-peak, to be sure). Close that one, and you get a peak behind the other. This is because you observed (by chosing only to open one slit) where the electron went to. This is similar to opening the cage. But what happens when both are open? You dont observe, so electrons go through BOTH slits, virtually. And thus, the chance of getting dots on the screen isnt the sum of those two peaks, but gets interference patterns. And to show this isnt wave interference i took electrons as example, as you can see one dot on the screen appear after another, seemingly independent... but when you add up enough of them you get the "big picture", i.e. the effects of the "non-knowledge" in the path of the particles. |
2006-02-10, 03:31 | Link #288 |
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Wow, the fight in episode 17 was great - short, but very full of action and I liked the way they just swooped everywhere.
Am I the only one who thinks Spoiler:
I liked the whole lipstick thing by the way, the way it was rubbed off at the end. Next episode it's like everyone has said, the shit is really going ot hit the fan now!
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2006-02-12, 12:48 | Link #290 |
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For japanese learners, I have completed the script for Episode 1 of Noein, now near perfection, uploaded the one for Episode 2 (but still needs quality check), and I am halfway done through Episode 3.
Scripts and progress can be viewed on this very simple web page: http://www.shirakawaakira.net/noein/ |
2006-02-12, 21:16 | Link #291 |
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Ah, episode 17! Someone said that not much happened. Whaaa? Let's see...
Spoiler for episode 17:
Have I mentioned how much I love the OP? I have found myself watching it all the way through every week, something I don't do for many OPs. Music-image-voice: all great. As one Japanese-language learner, I want to thank Shirakawa Akira for the scripts. And thanks to wao for the link to the interview with the director, who among other things confirms that he is using the word noein from the Greek, by way of the early 20th-century philosopher Heidegger, to mean perception of what is. He thought that gave it an interesting sound.
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2006-02-12, 22:51 | Link #293 | |
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Noein (originally noeein) is a word used in ancient Greek philosophy. It basically means "to perceive," or "to notice." Heidegger apparently took it as part of his philosophy, to mean the perception of what actually exists, as opposed to just an idea or something. Maybe others can explain better, but that meaning certainly would fit here.
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2006-02-12, 23:38 | Link #294 |
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Man, do I really have to defend my own personal impressions of an ep?
Spoiler for ep 17:
Again, it wasn't a bad ep. It was a good ep. But compared to how I felt about it (entertained) and then compared to how I felt about the ep 18 preview (HOLY SHIT), there's a difference there, and I was just trying to state how I felt. |
2006-02-14, 06:00 | Link #297 |
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Yes, speaking of story progress, episode 17 was a bit disappointing, expecially after the semi-recap episode 16. But I think that next one will be very interesting!
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*Now the script for episode 2 (Iede) in my website below is almost error-free! Check it out |
2006-02-14, 06:35 | Link #298 |
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Waaaahhhh! There's a nice interview with Kazuki Akane on the ever so great Web Anime Style Japanese online magazine about anime...
So we're blessed with 2 interviews now, I can't help but bring myself to want to translate at least one of them. Though it'll be hard... And the best thing about hte Anime Style one is that they're usually in many parts, and indeed there will be a part 2 where htey talk about the character designer too. Yeah!
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