2013-02-16, 07:07 | Link #3021 | |
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Let's assume Shizu has a supernatural ability, what is her ability? The Fact: 1) Each character in Saki universe have different ability 2) She get ron'ned twice so far (in quarterfinal and 1st round captain match) 3) She never get baiman or more 4) Her win come from ron, not tsumo 5) She win on all last round 6) Awai doesn't win though she activate her ability Now what do we speculate about her ability so far: 1) She has "imagine breaker", negating other supernatural ability 2) She has a good tenpai sense, never lost point much 3) She activate her ability if she get certain dice number 4) She get used to other playing style, then defeat them on the last round I will bet at least one of the point above is Shizu supernatural ability Personally, it will be great if her ability based around yaku. But all the unique yaku already claimed and so far character in Saki doesn't share same ability. (With Saki rinshan kaiho, Koromo haitei, Toki ippatsu and Awai double riichi). The remain yaku that most fit with Shizu's mountain image so far is chiihou (blessing of the earth) in my opinion
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2013-02-16, 10:03 | Link #3022 |
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Time for my wild guess on Shizu's ability:
Harue made it obvious that she cares about what the sum of the dice roll is. My knowledge of mahjong is extremely limited (don't know all the rules, so I can't really play), but I had a strange theory about how Shizu's ability might work. The theory of the dice needing to be pairs and how it affects the wall (or is it dead wall? ) is quite interesting (pairs = 1,1 , 2,2 , 3,3 , 4,4 , 5,5 , 6,6), but that makes it highly restrictive for Shizu. Now I know that in her previous game where Ryuuka was dealer and Shizu was trying to win against that orange hair girl (from Kentani school), the dice was 6,6. And the time where Shizu was against Awai the dice was 1,1. But let's ignore the dice being pairs for a sec and talk about my strange theory. In the Kentani match, the seating was like this: S=Shizu, R=Ryuuka, K=Kentai girl, O=other school --O-- S---K --R-- Now this is all going to fall flat on my face if my understanding of the dice count is completely wrong. I used this for reference... http://www.japanesemahjong.com/reach...break_wall.htm posted by eavein18. The dice was a sum 12, Ryuuka was dealer. What if we were to count clockwise instead of the usual counter clockwise? 12 ends up on the Kentani girl. Could this possibly be who Shizu's target is? By ignoring that the dice has to be pairs, it would give Shizu much more flexibility for her ability. In Shizu's battle with Awai, the seating was like this: S=Shizu, R=Ryuuka, H=Himeko, A=Awai --R-- H---A --S-- Awai was dealer, she rolled snake eyes (a sum of 2), counting clockwise, that ends up on Shizu. But of course, Shizu can't target herself... So what happens? Maybe it goes back to who was the one that rolled the dice? That means her target was Awai. Well.... It's just a strange theory I came up with... Don't mind me... |
2013-02-16, 16:52 | Link #3024 |
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To make Shiratoudai more competitive, maybe they will "create" an "accident" and send Seiko to the hospital, so Shiratoudai can use a sixth member (I think Ryumonbuuchi stated briefly that if they can't find Koromo the maid is gonna be the substitute and Touka had registered the maid as the 6th person) and that sixth person, with a bizarre style, curbstorm Nodoka (Nodoka is the only one other than Saki in Kiyosumi team that hasn't been curbstormed). So Saki start with less than 10k point and we will see how she struggle to win in back.
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I see Awai, Himeko and Ryuuka being to actually give Koromo a good match. Well, Himeko can only give Koromo a good match, depending on how well Touka would do against Mairu, and its perfectly within reason to awaken Touka's cold state, which would mean Himeko wouldn't really be able to give Koromo a challenge. Awai seems to be able to actually able to find Koromo's table control, after all her double riichi would be a real throne in Korom's side, who mainly aims for haitei rouyoue, and Awai usually wins at the corner of a wall. Quote:
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Why? Because Miyamori had Sae, who's able to seal hands, and if she's able to seal Nodoka's han would make for a good match were strain is put on Nodoka, or Esiui with Hatsumi who would force Nodoka into having to accept the occult aspect of the game. Esiui with Jindai and Kasumi would make things even more annoying for Yuuki and Saki, because Jindai would've had a stronger goddeses when fighting Yuuki, and Kasumi knows how to defend well against Saki. And with Toyone who apparently had other abilities we were unable to see. Not Himemastu, who's only real credit is that their Sergeant got a single win over Mako, remember Hiroe taking on Hisa doesn't count, because of Hisa being nervous at the start of the match. Quote:
Kirame added nothing to the vanguard match? You honestly think that? Without Kirame Toki would have kept getting worse and worse moral, because she would not get the idea to play cooperatively play with the other teams, still Kirame being in the finals would mean squat, because Yuuki probably won't ever play cooperatively ever again after what Mihoko pulled on her. Quote:
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1) No Shizu didn't win against Koromo, but she still did well enough to leave a lasting impression on Koromo. 2)She warned Saki about the potential of Shizu canceling out wins 3)No Saki isn't arrogant, she just needs to start playing at full power. 4)We don't want her to suffer, we want Saki to actually be at full strength and have to work for her wins. Quote:
I see Awai being wet for Shizu in the finals, only to realize she also has Teru's sister at the table, meaning Awai's going to cause herself to get a full orgasm while trying to destroy both. Quote:
Remember how Koromo also started having trouble after Kana changed her outlook? And how Yumi was able to break away Koromo's control for a while? Well Himeko, Shizu and Ryuuka are all able to do this without a monster helping them. Plus Ryuuka and Himeko have previous experience in the nationals, meaning that have faced dangerous players and wouldn't be able to be have their confidence destroyed like Kana did. Main point: Awai and Koromo are most probably the same in terms of monster strength, and the higher you get in the nationals the more likely you are to run into players who can deal with and stand on equal footing with monsters. Quote:
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I wouldn't say Shiraitodai has lost any creditably, they are facing a team trained by a former pro, the 2nd ranked school in the entire country and team that has learned from past mistakes, by placing their aces at the end instead of the start. As Kuro said, the closer you get to the top, the harder things become. Quote:
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Yuu's ability is to attract warm/red tiles, I see this as something Mako can read, but would find challenging because Yuu's red tile magnet is something that cannot be stopped Hisa has actually been shown to have been stopped by cheap hands in the quarter-finals by 2 people working together, and Ako who doesn't need help with her quick wins would be a challenge for Hisa to overcome. Arata's style is still a logical one, with the pinzu's waits, Nodoka would be able to guess which tiles Arata is aiming for, its when we bring in the part where Arata mixes in Harue's style that I feel Nodoka would be shocked by, because Harue is someone Nodoka hasn't seen years and doesn't know is now coaching Achiga's mahjong club. Shizu possible ability to negate wins is something that Saki would find an annoyance Quote:
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I see Rinkai, or Uzusan being the ones to stop give Nodoka a hard time, it seems Megan knows how to read the flow of a game, so I see her possibly taking Nodoka out, by having Nodoka ignore the occult aspect of the game. Or my personal theory of Arata is the won to cause Nodoka trouble may making her be reminded about the children's mahjong club and her feel like she's playing Harue again. Also something else, so will the Tokyo playing hall be able to survive through the finals? What we've Saki having caused an earthquake and Awai having made a giant thunderstorm happen when they got serious, lets hope no body else causes nature to be affected when they play in the finals, otherwise we won't be getting a winner, we'll have to deal with a disaster and the captains needing be rescued from the destroyed playing hall. Unless in some weird twisted way Shizu is able to come the supernova and god before they destroy the hall. Yeah which would mean the most hyperactive captain is the one who comes nature |
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2013-02-16, 19:42 | Link #3027 | |
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But I think for Saki, playing her +/- zero is like a sanctuary for her where all is well... remember her story about playing majhong with her family? If she wins too much then her family gets angry at her but if she loses... well, she lose... I think having that passive ability or just being as one loved by the tiles, her hand naturally builds fast and big that when she wins she wins big time... being Saki, she doesn't want her family to be angry at her so she doesn't want win but also doesn't want to lose so she developed her +/- zero habit... But as stated before, doing +/- zero every time is much more difficult than having yakuman hand every time... so Saki developed/improved her table control and signature rinshan for her +/- zero play style... from then, every time she plays majhong with her family she always neither win nor lose so no one gets angry and everything is well... Well... I think Saki has a lot more abilities in her arsenal and I'm waiting for someone to make her show it all... Shizu, you're our girl... if you can't do it no one can... I agree to this... it will be another Koromo Vs Shizu... Shizu blocks Saki's ability/abilities but still loses...
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2013-02-16, 20:40 | Link #3028 | |
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2013-02-16, 20:58 | Link #3029 |
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To those who dislike Saki holding back and resort to +- 0, if you have to blame someone for that, blame her family. They were the ones holding their daughter back by punishing her both for winning and loosing. Can you imagine that? It would seem as though her family is trying to supress Saki full potential for some reason. Some of you may think her mother must be evil huh?
At the time when this series just started, I reckon that Saki is too good at mahjong that her family became sick of her winning, but then what does it have anything to do with the mysterious girl in Saki’s dream. Also note that at the time of her dream, Saki should be able to do +- 0 since she start doing it when she was 6 years old. Another thing I have been thinking, does Teru able to do +- 0? We never saw her did it but that doesn't mean she can't right? Maybe it's Miyanaga family tredition to raise their child that way so Teru should be receiving the same treatment as Saki if that's the case. I don't know, Kouko might enjoy it. She's too hyper to worry about the crashing stadium, and there is always Sukoyan there to protect her. Last edited by teja208; 2013-02-16 at 21:12. |
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So Teru and Saki's parents: real assholes, they'd probably get on great with Touka's father who can't accept Koromo as his niece. Quote:
Teru probably can, but doesn't want to. Great now I have this image of Kouko commentating excitedly about the match, while rumble falls around her, with Kokaji destroying any piece that comes near them.(In Biyori Kokaji was shown to have some strength) |
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2013-02-16, 22:26 | Link #3032 |
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We'll find out what Shizu's ability is when the chapter comes out. Patience is key, so I'm going to busy myself until then.
Got around to watching Episode 14 last night. Funakyu is still Malygos in human skin and Seiko is definitely a student of famed angler Nat Pagle. Oh, and don't forget Arata with her SHINING FINGER~~~~ Kouko's already going Full Ham as it is during the semi-finals. Her body wouldn't be ready for a Saki/Teru/Awai/Koromo showdown because if a blackout/earthquake/thunderstorm won't take her out her Hamming It Up will. I don't think there's been news as to when Episode 15 will be out, has there? I haven't seen anything on ANN as of late. |
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It would be more on the level of crashing reality. And I have now the image of Sukoya running trow a crashing city with Kouko still commenting on her back. Is it bad?
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2013-02-16, 23:17 | Link #3034 | |
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Oh, I forgot to mention how awesome it is that Awai and Seiko are the official comedic duo of Shiraitodai. Now let's just give Takami something to do and everyone will be likable and interesting. And dear god, Kouko, you are one crazy lesbian. |
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2013-02-17, 12:06 | Link #3035 | |
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Besides, if anything, Senriyama is the most unlikely to go to the finals. Like with Himematsu, we already know much more about Senriyama. Shindouji and Shiraitodai are schools that doesn't have any sufficient flashbacks, so going by the more "interesting" teams, both of them are better since they hadn't had a proper flashback yet. (sans Kirame) If you're talking about mahjong abilities, then both Shindouji and Senriyama is equals in terms of strengths. You're quick to dismiss Yoshiko and Hitomi as fodders but both of them are quite good. Yoshiko aside, coming up with a new strategy to disable Sumire, Hitomi is actually good. I think I posted before on how she came up with a 6 sided wait to stop Takami's yakuman hand. It's just that Sera and Ako dominated that round that it really couldn't be helped. |
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