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Me, An Intellectual
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2010-08-17, 12:27 | Link #3103 |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 35
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That is only temporary! I am faithful to Azunyan! And my other waifus too.
That has got to be the most comfortable sleeping aid ever! I must test it with my own head....*gets crushed by a weighted companion cube*
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2010-08-17, 15:05 | Link #3107 | |
from head to heel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Age: 42
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2010-08-17, 15:18 | Link #3108 |
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Since i was too tired to write it about it last night decided to do it today. Also, wanted to try to generate some quality discussion so we can get HOTD its own section. Seiryuu already made some valid points in his post about the morality of the situation.
First of all there is doubt that what happen to Alice's dad was tragedy. A tragedy bought on by chaos, fear,desperation and the need to protect. Most of us would like to think that in times of peril we would help our fellow man and indeed a lot of us would but there is just no way of telling until we are put in situation that is so beyond our control how we would actually react. Even the kindest of people can become demons when it comes to self preservation. Humans by nature can be panicky, violent, paranoid and in worst cases delusional when faced with such extremes that their psyche just cant handle it the load and they snap. The people in the house im sure were kind and just living their everyday lives any normal person in Tokyo. You could see from when the door was opened they looked normal there was elderly person a young man and young maybe his wife and the two mid aged people who were probably the younger one's parents. Now we can probably say that they did not intend on murdering Alices dad from the get go. They told him to find another place and go away. It was only when he threatened to break the door down that the man opened the door up. However as soon as the door was opened the man stabbed Alices dad. We can say they didnt know if he was really a zombie or not, we can say maybe they thought he was a burglar and he was going to rob them and possibly kill them as well. The man looked truly sorry after he had stabbed Alices dad apologizing over and over. So no at heart he was probably not a bad person just someone who was trying to protect his family and not worrying about others we cant blame them for that. But they didnt even bother to look at Alice nor did they offer to help her, she was just a child. However, the situation could have been handled in another way. The man in the house could have let Alice's dad know they were armed and if they tried to force their way in there would be consequences. He could have opened the door and kept Alices dad at bay with the make shift spear he had. But self preservation demands a stabbing and questions later its only after a person had made the mistake that they actually realize what they have done. Usually the stress that caused the person to act this way in the first place is no compounded by action they just took only making their psyche worse. If you remember Takashi and his group had the same philosophy for a while though they strayed from that in the beginning during the bus incident. However Saeko even stated they should turn of the lights and they could only watch out for themselves. Takashi smashed that by saving Alice so we can see each person morals in these kind of situation is usually influenced extreme emotions or personal reasons. Takashi and his group could have followed the same route as the people in the house but in the end they didnt and in later episodes you will also see where what im talking about will come into play. They are not deceiving themselves by any means they have clearly stated they will help those that can be helped but they cant help everyone.. I feel sometimes with all the discussion about boin boin and jiggle jiggle we forget that there is actually some real meat behind the story. |
2010-08-17, 15:54 | Link #3111 |
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Im not really talking about the character development more about the situations that the main characters find themselves in that we can relate to in real life. Granted there are no zombies running around at the moment (im prepared just encase though) but Alices father could have easily have been one of us in an emergency situation.
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2010-08-17, 16:21 | Link #3112 |
RUN, YOU FOOLS!
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost
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You are a family holed up in a house. A desperate father want you to take him in with his daughter at best, or just his daughter at worst. Your supplies are more than likely limited. You tell him to go and leave you alone. Then he threaten to smash the door down. What do you do? The commotion he is causing is drawing the zombies, you can NOT afford to let him smash the door. You are scared, desperate, and you have to take a decision that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Likely, with the approbation of others, you decide to kill that man. And leave the little girl to the zombies, because you can not expect to kill her father then take her in and think it will be alright. From their point of view, they were only doing what they could do for their people. It's easy to say, "they should have done this and that." but the father was an immediate threat to their safety that could open the door to the surrounding threat. I am not saying I approve it, I can somehow understand their (desperate and fueled by fear) reasoning. However, leaving a child to "them" was clearly over the line. And that is the decision that will not let the family sleep. Should they not be eaten offscreen. |
2010-08-17, 16:30 | Link #3113 | |
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2010-08-17, 16:37 | Link #3114 | |
The Dark Knight
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
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Not that it changes anything but it seems they didn't noticed her. |
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2010-08-17, 16:45 | Link #3115 | |
RUN, YOU FOOLS!
Join Date: Jun 2006
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2010-08-17, 16:51 | Link #3116 | |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
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Location: France
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Of course there is nothing wrong with watching it for the plot and drama, let's just say it's not what I am looking for here (I'll be watching The Walking dead for that).
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2010-08-17, 17:05 | Link #3117 | |
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2010-08-17, 17:28 | Link #3119 | |
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Join Date: May 2010
Age: 33
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Fear drove them to kill the father, heck for all they know he was already infected as they've not had direct contact with any of the infected yet. They were looking out for themselves and the Dad just happened to find the wrong house to mess with. I've seen it happen in plenty of films but it's still shocking, like in the Happening they tell the kids to go away as they're worried they'll let the virus thing in, so they shoot them with a shotgun through the door to get them away and help them stay safe. I can't understand how killing another human amidst all this madness would help anyone, but there was no other option if they wanted to try and survive. It's a sad truth, but humans will do anything to look out for number one and their family. However with all those zombies still crowded outside I doubt they'll be leaving their house anytime soon for supplies and it could end up with them starving in the long run, all because they didn't let a poor desperate man and his daughter in to safety. In a situation like that, I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't care about anyones families, children or not. They're almost as bad as the infected themselves but drawn by irrational fear and desperation to survive. It's much like I think it was Rei's line of I finally realised that we're still human (or something along those lines), they've still got their sanity as they're not afraid to fight and they have a reason to survive (to look for their families). It's weird how much depth the characters actually have in this, if you look past everything. They may not of been fully designed from the getgo to have depth, but there is quite a lot. Like how Saya from the first episode seems to be a rich girl who doesn't really know how to look after herself properly, but through this she's learning about how to better herself and Rei is slowly starting to realise the world doesn't revolve around her as she seemed pretty self centered in the first few episodes. I think Takashi telling her what he thinks during episode 5 really helped her realise what she was becoming. Finally the group have realised that they're still human and they can't stand idley by and watch helpless people die, who really don't deserve it. They'll try and help as many a long the way as they can, but with reason. Like that guy in episode 6 who was shotgunning his way through, I don't think anything they could of done, would of helped him. He clearly wasn't able to comprehend the situation and was fighting even though he stood no chance. |
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2010-08-17, 17:42 | Link #3120 | ||
~Omedetô~
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !
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Anyway , first minute : Saya ->> Sensei ->>> Rei ->>>> Saeko ->>>>>>>>>>>> Funny part for me was when the girl wanted to pee and then Takashi cursed those last events + Funny faces As usual ED with new song , you can notice the Dog's owner |
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