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But after ep 12-14, if he really was in love with ranka, he would hav made his move since he's obviosly not aware of Sheryls feelings, theres nothin holding him back, or even a single blush in ep 7 when ranka tell him they're alone wud have sufficed. Instead the next time we see him blush is when Sheryl is in his room & they realize hw close their faces are which makes me think that she still has sm sort of a hold on him. Even in ep 19, Alto still isnt aware of Sheryl's feelings, which is quite evident to us when he tells Michael that Sheryl is as fickle & abusive as ever, confirming that While ranka's feelings for him are getting clearer, Sheryl's feelings are still a mystery to him. Of course not to say this is exactly hw alto feels, just my intrepretation coupled with wishful thinking cos it all makes sense to me this way. Quote:
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2008-08-20, 00:58 | Link #304 |
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I was surfing the threads and came across a poll of the best pilots in Macross and Alto is about midrank. Have we seen any indication of that onscreen yet? Of course he has shown to be fearless while performing The Daring Rescue (Luca and Ranka) but have his technical skills matched that? Admittedly I have only seen Frontier and Macross Plus and am playing catchup on the original series with video sites and Wikipedia but my understanding was that the pilot protagonists of Macross were supposed to be a cut above the norm.
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2008-08-20, 01:06 | Link #305 | |
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In fact in Zero, shin is an awfull VF pilot, while being an ace in his norma F14 Tomcat |
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2008-08-20, 04:11 | Link #307 | |
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He is emotionally withdrawn and moody, but he also displays a good lot of camaraderie and friendship towards his friends and that has evolved since the series has progressed. At the beginning he was being actively teased as "Always second-place princess Alto" by Michael, which spoke to an openly rivalrous friendship. Since Alto joined SMS, we still had rows between the two regarding the question if Alto is serious about his commitment as a pilot, but since the incident about Michaels sniper skills, the two haven´t really quarreled at all. Luca has always had an relationship of admiration towards Alto, and beside Alto getting angry one time in the first episode ( when the topic of Altos past as an actor came up ) we have had nothing but friendship between the two of them. We haven´t seen Alto being angry at Ranka since episode three , and even then he caught himself very quickly, as soon as he saw that Ranka was just being sincere in her emotions. That leaves Sheryl as the only one to whom Alto is still showing anger, which comes out of their usual bickering over different topics. Even so, Alto has shown tenderness and concern for her many times and the two of them are talking to each other as equal adults ( something which cannot be said of at all for interaction between Alto and Ranka ). The constant butting of horns between the two is actually helpful for both of their personality growths. But as I mentioned before, Alto is very moody. He internalizes a lot of his emotions, because he has to face many problems stemming from his past, his aspirations as a pilot and fears for his friends. He definitely has a problem expressing overt joy, so his more free displays of anger simply exerbate this character trait of his. But it is only a matter of looking a bit more closely to see that he really cares about his friends. I get that Alto is more difficult to like as a character than someone as awesome as Sheryl, but if you care to look a bit under the hood, there is a lot there which one can care about. One thing which I think we all agree about is that he needs to tone down on the GAR screaming in combat, though... He reminds me a lot of Squall from Final Fantasy VIII, who also was very withdrawn, but who, as the game progressed, came more and more out of his shell. Although Squall at the beginning sometimes almost seemed autistic. Last edited by magnuskn; 2008-08-20 at 04:29. |
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The only place Alto has to let of some steam is in battle, so i don't see why he should tone down.
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I´ve got two friends who also watch Frontier and are always massively annoyed when he begins to yell. ^^ |
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My memory isn't perfect but the happiest moments in the show for Alto, that I can remember, have been with Ranka. Maybe I shouldn't say happy but more content? i.e. Less yelling and emotional outbursts and more calm and sedated talking. I think of Ranka singing Aimo on the hill and him listening, I think of Ranka speaking to him in her room, I think of many of the meetings with Ranka. Happiest moment with Sheryl that wasn't a surprise moment was probably that first date they went on. I don't necessarily count the kiss on the cheek after the date or the kiss on the lips at the movie set due to his reaction after each.
You know that would be a good test of fandom. Count the number of smiles or grins Alto has done in the series and who was he with at the time? |
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And, yeah, Ranka has made him smile more, which of course is easier for her, because she just wants to spend time with him. Sheryl challenges him, which makes them bicker more. Not to mention that for the last 9 episodes she has been sick, which is no subject which helps relaxed dialogue. |
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2008-08-20, 08:26 | Link #314 |
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What to say about Alto...
Well, he is probably one of the few who can't be more feminine looking. I saw some people actually rejecting the series of the main dude's face. I'm glad that the show itself makes fun of it. He pretends not to care but he breaks through in the end. A typical anime guy who don't know what the other side is feeling, although he does give few tips to Ranka but she excepts them mostly because of the love/crush. He is a good pilot, quite a bold one, which earned him success which I don't fancy all that much. He had those ''almost killed'' situations, but thats not enough. I want to see him shot down miserably at least once in the middle of battle. Why? Don't know, I just don't want him to be among the best cuz other main characters in other Macross series weren't such skilled as this guy. Ar at least I think so.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was just wondering if it was an intentional decision on Kawamori's part to go a different route with male lead or if he just hasn't had time to show the development yet. Such as being busy setting up the other two parties in the triangle and showing the plotting of Leon and Grace.
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But yeah he was probably one of the only F14 jocks who could avoid a missile spam. |
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2008-08-22, 00:14 | Link #317 |
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I suppose now that Alto has gotten the obligatory "growing up" moment we can start to see some improved development on his part. Someone mentioned the episode forum there was a lot of Alto hate by the posters my guess is this due to his indecisiveness on the triangle, which I am starting to understand. He really needs to make a decision, any decision.
Heck at this point I would take Ranka as the choice if only for the sake of progress.(Now fleeing the wrath of Tak and the other fans of the Galactic Fairy.) |
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I made a comment about the possibility of this in the episode thread. My thought was that depending on how Alto reacts to Klan next episode they could have some sort of bonding experience over the loss of Michel thus setting up a relationship of sorts between the two of them. As for the second part of your post I am not sure if you mean handle in the romantic sense. If you do we would have to see how being Songstress of Despair works out for Sheryl. If see really dies then I can see it happening, this would be the second person that Alto lost that was central to his world. Three if you count Michel. She can understand that and help him come to terms. Someone in the romance thread( sorry for not crediting but I didn't want search 80 pages of posts trying to find your name) mentioned Alto's voice actor saying in an interview who he ends up with will be a suprise. This would be more of a suprise than Alto and Ranka getting together for the sake of Frontier. Not to mention more original.
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