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I get the feeling that this is the rationale behind most people wanting Pitou to be a female Quote:
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into a man (Not a spoiler since it had nothing to do with the plot at all). Am I missing something? What about Razor? |
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2013-07-08, 17:35 | Link #3322 | |
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I usually wouldn't recommend a tvtropes article but in this particular case it's unexpectedly accurate. Go read it. It might prove enlightening. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod
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2013-07-08, 17:49 | Link #3323 |
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This cuts both ways. Why do some people have a pressing need to have Pitou be male? I think someone already wrote this somewhere, but it would have been easy for Togashi to clear this up, yet he chose not to. I personally think Pitou's gender is in the eye of the beholder, like an inkblot test.
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2013-07-08, 19:26 | Link #3325 | |
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That he's a girl who just happens to look like that. As for your picture, she clearly looks like a girl now so there's no problem. If he looks like Abraham Lincoln and the author makes him officially a girl then you bet people are gonna say something about it. |
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2013-07-08, 19:43 | Link #3327 | |
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There's more, but that's all I can say while staying within forum rules. Edit: In retrospect, this is probably not the appropriate thread for this discussion. It would have been better in the manga thread instead. I think I've already gone past forum guidelines in several of my posts. This thread should be about what is happening in the anime. Things that happen in the manga, or in the manga guidebooks for that matter, really don't belong in this thread. Last edited by Upscaled; 2013-07-08 at 21:10. |
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In short the anime is presenting her as female with her new design emphasizing the existence of breasts, the translators have assumed she's female (mistakenly or not), and it doesn't matter to the story in the slighest, so why not let people go on thinking she's female? What difference does it make? Why do you have to constantly "correct" them with information that itself seems more and more dubious upon close examination? Who is that for the benefit of? |
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So yeah, I have already stated my opinion on the issue of Pitou's genre here. So, instead I wh¿ould like to explore another topic which Upscaled touch upon some pages ago.
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Having already read the manga a while ago, I remember checking out the HxH wiki and reading something that stated what Updated suggested: all the Royal Guards' names have two basic roots, one related to an Egyptian deity and one alluding to the French children book titled Caroline et ses Amis. Quote:
I did some lurking and I don't seem to find a source for these facts, so I consider them merely conjectures at the moment. Therefore, Upscaled's own conjecture of Neferpitou's Egyptian root being based on the "Nefer" meaning "beautiful" alone seems to be equally valid. However, I have yet to find any equivalent Egyptian root for Shaiapouf or Menthuthuyoupi other than the deities Shai and Menthu, so I think it's safer to bet on Neferpitou's root being Nefertem, the mythologycal character, as the wiki suggests, rather than Nefer, due to it being a better counterpart to the other Royal Guards' name basis. I am, obviously, no linguist or historian, so I could be wrong; but then again, neither is Togashi, as far as I know. That leaves three mythological figures in which our Royal Guard characters (or at least their names) could be based upon: Nefertem, Shai, and Menthu. Spoiler for Nefertem in the Egyptian mythos:
The aspects of Nefertem I found interesting and consider could have influenced Togashi's depiction of Neferpitou as a character are the following,
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Also things like the quality of the animation, the voice acting, and comparisons to the manga are discussed in this thread. None of those things have any relevance to the plot either so I guess we shouldn't discuss them either, right? |
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As per my previous example, if Togashi suddenly announces that Mito was a guy all along I'm just gonna pretend I didn't hear it. |
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To freeofgreed: Because of the no-spoiler policy, it is impossible for me to give a more complete explanation of Pitou's androgyny, as it appears in the manga, in this anime-only thread. This no-spoiler policy is in place partly because of the view that the anime is a separate work from the manga, and can be appreciated on its own, regardless of how it is similar to or different from the manga. And in that spirit, the data books are irrelevant to the discussion of the anime version. (I've already stated that the posting of the later data book entry is possibly against forum rules because it contains heavy spoilers.) Even if Togashi himself had shown unequivocally that Pitou was male in the manga, that would still be irrelevant to the question of the anime version's gender. The anime and the manga are two different versions of the same story, and each can be appreciated on its own terms.
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