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Old 2008-12-15, 12:00   Link #321
Sassarai
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Who's further then me? I'm about to beat the 4th dungeon =) .
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Old 2008-12-15, 13:06   Link #322
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On True Ending Path , Last dungeon now .
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Old 2008-12-15, 14:30   Link #323
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I beat the game already.
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Old 2008-12-15, 17:43   Link #324
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Heh, you guys really have free time on your hands.
So, please spoil me. Like P3, the S-links make no difference right? The game's ending is the same?
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Old 2008-12-16, 01:49   Link #325
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I got to second dungeon and.. After an hour of climbing the floors, gaining levels, and opening tons of chests, I stumbled over something weak..

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Old 2008-12-16, 10:33   Link #326
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I heard that you can only date one girl per playthrough at this game. .
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Old 2008-12-16, 11:44   Link #327
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You can date them all. I've got Rise , Yukiko , Chie and
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as my lovers .
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Old 2008-12-16, 13:34   Link #328
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Regarding the culprit..

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I heard that you can only date one girl per playthrough at this game. .
Yes. There is only one Lovers social link and it's Rise Kujikawa.

Secondly, it is okay to work on multiple male social links at the same time, yet if you attempt to do a second female social link after one of them had reached Lv6, it will become reverse and in the worse case scenario, break.

Last edited by Shadow Kira01; 2008-12-16 at 21:24. Reason: new discovery
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Old 2008-12-16, 22:11   Link #329
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I went out and bought this game the other day, though I wasn't planning on playing it until I was done with Persona 3. After doing so, I went online and discovered that, apparently, several copies of the game gave a "disc read error" on PS2s, so I went ahead and opened my copy to test that it worked.

Thankfully, it did. Yeesh. Anyway, I'm really excited to play this soon.
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Old 2008-12-16, 23:20   Link #330
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Eh? There shouldn't be any reverses from "cheating" on any girls in P4. The only reverses are the ones resulting from bad dialog choices.
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Old 2008-12-17, 00:00   Link #331
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... if you attempt to do a second female social link after one of them had reached Lv6, it will become reverse and in the worse case scenario, break.
.... Uh oh.
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Old 2008-12-17, 07:11   Link #332
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Returning to dungeons are actually a bonus. I got Yousuke some nice wrenches after re-visiting his dungeon. When I got to Yukiko's..

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Eh? There shouldn't be any reverses from "cheating" on any girls in P4. The only reverses are the ones resulting from bad dialog choices.
Really? I am not sure.. It did happen in P3. Chihiro was at Lv9, when I got a Lv2 social link with Fuuka which made it reverse for several weeks.
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Old 2008-12-17, 08:24   Link #333
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There are only 2 possible reverse in the game . One is for Moon Arcana and the other i forgot .

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The other is Fortune .


You get reversed if you pick the wrong options.
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Old 2008-12-17, 09:08   Link #334
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When I got to Yukiko's..

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Yeah, getting screwed over last minute in battles seems more common this time around.
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Old 2008-12-17, 10:34   Link #335
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Whoever translated the game made some weird choices, the most obvious being how Teddie talks and another being the fact that Yousuke calls Yukiko, "Yukiko-san" when he calls her by her last name in the Japanese version.
Though so far there hasn't been any major mistakes.
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Old 2008-12-17, 10:51   Link #336
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It seems like you're getting screwed last minute is because the AI changes at certain breakpoints, usually at around the 25% health lost and every 25% more after. In the last quarter of health, they usually crank up the aggressiveness.

As for contrarian king, it's best to burst him down with tier 2 spells ASAP, in order to lessen the amount of times he uses Rampage. If you do have a tier 2 spell for MC, then keep sukukaja/tarukaja him with Chie/Yosuke, sukunda on the boss while Yukiko heals if need be. Once at 50% hp IIRC, he starts using rampage, and so just have your allies guard always unless they need to heal, while a buffed MC lays on the beats. Either that or come back once you finished the next dungeon.



3rd dungeon boss though is ridiculously easy, since he telegraphs all his moves. Marakunda -> heat wave (tarunda him and/or marakukaja your party), Mind Charge -> Mabufula (obviously have Yuki guard if she's in your party, switch to a null ice Persona), and charging two turns -> special move (obviously guard to nullify damage, plus you get a whole free turn!). Only problem with him is his auto-crit/dizzy move, but since he only does that before his charge up for his special move, you have one free turn to heal before guarding.
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Old 2008-12-17, 18:26   Link #337
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It seems like you're getting screwed last minute is because the AI changes at certain breakpoints, usually at around the 25% health lost and every 25% more after. In the last quarter of health, they usually crank up the aggressiveness.

As for contrarian king, it's best to burst him down with tier 2 spells ASAP, in order to lessen the amount of times he uses Rampage. If you do have a tier 2 spell for MC, then keep sukukaja/tarukaja him with Chie/Yosuke, sukunda on the boss while Yukiko heals if need be. Once at 50% hp IIRC, he starts using rampage, and so just have your allies guard always unless they need to heal, while a buffed MC lays on the beats. Either that or come back once you finished the next dungeon.
I intend on taking on the contrarian king after saving Kanji when I get better equipment. I suppose Mudo doesn't work on him, since it never works on bosses and I assume this guy is a boss as well. Currently, my strongest persona is the Ippon-Datara with Mudo, Maragi, and Magaru, as well as Evil Touch. However, these aren't good against it.. As soon as I swap to my healing persona, Sarasvati which has Media, my HP drops very quickly..

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Old 2008-12-17, 18:38   Link #338
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I usually take on the bonus bosses after I beat the next dungeons boss. By then my level is high enough and they become a joke.



Prizes for fishing changes monthly. In July, you can get the accessory blessed hands which makes your healing spells 50 percent more effective. You need 4 seemas. You don't lose the bait if you press circle as soon as the fish tugs the line (from my experience).


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Old 2008-12-17, 18:43   Link #339
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It seems like you're getting screwed last minute is because the AI changes at certain breakpoints, usually at around the 25% health lost and every 25% more after. In the last quarter of health, they usually crank up the aggressiveness.
I find this change to actually be pretty sensible. In P3 this only changed based on the difficulty you were playing, but other than that they pretty much stuck to a pattern. As much as I want to throw the controller at the wall, I think it's pretty clever - keeps you at the edge of your seat.

Bonus bosses I find you can do right away, even if your persona selection is totally whack.
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Old 2008-12-17, 22:41   Link #340
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I intend on taking on the contrarian king after saving Kanji when I get better equipment. I suppose Mudo doesn't work on him, since it never works on bosses and I assume this guy is a boss as well. Currently, my strongest persona is the Ippon-Datara with Mudo, Maragi, and Magaru, as well as Evil Touch. However, these aren't good against it.. As soon as I swap to my healing persona, Sarasvati which has Media, my HP drops very quickly..

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Once Margaret starts giving you quests after 5/19, you should be able to start finishing them.
Haven't heard of anything like what you had in the Japanese release... Could be something pretty simple though.
Like, did you try reentering the room after you made one?

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If you want to finish the Hermit Social Link, you'll have to be able to fish something big at least once.
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