2014-07-25, 12:29 | Link #34301 | |
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Israel gave them 3(or 2.5) days, and UN couldn't evacuate everyone on time. The strikes hit just as they were about to leave on buses. Edit: ok, an update from UN is now that they are not sure whether it's Israel rocket or Hamas rocket that hit the school. Israel denied intentionally target the school. Both sides were firing rockets at each others at the time, and it could've been a errant rocket that hit the school. Looks like Hamas' involved in this... Last edited by maplehurry; 2014-07-25 at 13:42. |
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2014-07-25, 18:16 | Link #34302 |
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I heard somewhere that Israel tends to fire an inert round at its intended target first as a warning shot. Apparently it has told the people in Gaza that they will fire this warning shot so that people have time to leave. If they don't leave, the second shot is fully armed and will destroy the building. Though it is rather accurate, since only that one building is destroyed, while those around it are intact (aside from broken glass and some shock damage and dust).
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2014-07-25, 18:21 | Link #34303 |
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It Turns Out Hamas Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All
Not surprised at the slightest.
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2014-07-25, 21:35 | Link #34304 |
Le fou, c'est moi
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I don't understand why people still accept the "warning shots" excuse.
Gaza is a giant prison camp, very densely populated compared to neighboring Israeli and Egyptian settlements and are under blockade. Where the fuck should they run to? Beaches are not safe, U.N. shelters are not safe, hospitals are not safe. Oh but they gave "warnings" so they can freely kill civilians... Hamas' fall, if it happens, will not herald a return to moderation among Palestinians. It will mean the rise of ISIS and other even more extreme jihadi groups in Gaza. It may provoke the third intifada, especially if Fatah loses all face and the increasingly restive Palestinians living in the West Bank -- pushed and pushed by Israeli settlements' expansions, rise up. It will mean vicious radicalism, unbending hatred, and a mentality of total resistance will be ingrained into yet another Palestinian generation. If the PLO loses all of its already flimsy authority, if Hamas -- which has civilian and diplomatic interests -- is replaced by less "enchained," more viciously vengeful groups, then there will be no venues of negotiation and diplomacy left and it will be Israelis (and many, many more Palestinians) who will bleed. Great fucking job Likud & the Israeli far right. You people have more in common with the fascist murderers of your ancestors than the sadly weakened Israeli left. At this point even Israeli democracy is under threat, as intensifying conflict threatens to disenfranchise groups like the Arab Israelis, so long integrated in a fragile, yet all-important, balance. |
2014-07-26, 00:02 | Link #34308 |
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It's called "Armenian Negligent Genocide". Did the Ottomans deport them enmasse to the other side of their empire thinking it was a good idea ? Yes. Did they intend to obliterate Armenian people Nazi-style ? No.
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2014-07-26, 00:18 | Link #34310 | |
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If Israel officially declare that all civilians as ALLOWED to die, then there is no reason why every neighbour wouldn't gang up on Israel and have a massive MAD. At which point America would have to decide if they want to help Israel commit genocide or let the chips fall where they may. This perception that Israel is being NICE, and that they can easily become the empire of the Middle East if they wanted to, is simply wrong. But if the Hawks want to start a mini-Armageddon I guess that's what they will get.
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2014-07-26, 01:35 | Link #34315 |
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The winner is just and the loser is tyrannical. It's simply how history are written throughout the ages. The Gaza conflict is too profitable for those in power on both side of the war, and just like most war, it's the people that suffers the consequence while the rich and powerful reap all the benefits.
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Professor Ariel Heryanto's commentary on Indonesian Democracy :
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2014-07-26, 09:54 | Link #34317 | |
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I'm Done Apologizing for Israel
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2014-07-26, 10:42 | Link #34319 |
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When you put a 800 death toll on Palestine side with 80% or more civilian. Versus what was it again? 3 civilian death for Israel? Then you know who is carrying out the massacre.
With that ratio of death 200 to 1; that is equivalent of Hamas rolling in some biological weapons, killing 1.6 millions of Israeli civilians. Then call it "a fair retaliation". Israel is simply just screwing themselves up in a long run. Simple as that. The German waited 20-25 years to carry out their exact revenge on the bitterness of World War 1. And now Israel are cooking some regional grudge toward themselves with all these acts.
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2014-07-26, 12:07 | Link #34320 | |
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I don't know how else Israel should conduct its wars. It's not like Hamas have uniforms and military bases and all the paraphernalia necessary for a conventional, by-the-book war. I do wish they'd conduct their peace better, though. What with their settlements and embargos and so on. Last edited by Anh_Minh; 2014-07-26 at 12:27. |
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