2012-07-13, 14:41 | Link #342 | |
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Warning. Slightly R-rated. Spoiler for Excerpt from Chapter 16.5:
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2012-07-13, 15:52 | Link #344 |
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So Book 10 is out (but of course untranslated) and while I feel like reading, it is almost 5 in the morning and my head can't quite translate Japanese at this kind of time... YAWN...
On to the subject. So apparently Kirito is once again in a life and death crisis - one much worse than before, and almost no guarantee that he'll survive - and tossed into a life-like world probably as a means of reviving him or (plain speculation here) preserving his soul. The advancement from VR to literally the creation of a new world in such a short time is like... wow? What exactly is going on in the real world that Kirito is ignorant about? I can't believe he actually participated in the experiment in the first place knowing that 1) his VR self will not remember his actual identity and 2) he would not remember any of his experience in the VR world. It has crime scribbled all over the place, though of what nature I really could not say. Ah, the Alicization arc looks very likely to describe Kirito's VR journey in full detail, unlike the first arc where his entire 2 years in SAO was kind of... skipped. Much, MUCH anticipated~
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2012-07-13, 16:06 | Link #346 | |
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Also Xellos your list left out Liz's story if I'm reading it right.
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2012-07-14, 12:47 | Link #349 |
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Honestly, that was a lot of stuff there. Sure, it got cut, but isn't the essence of the story still intact?
Besides, Asuna appears to think sleeping next to Kirito at the start of A Murder Case was more significant than this, their first meeting. Hunt for Red October film also cut out a lot of stuff, but it's also considered a good example of adaptation distillation.
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2012-07-14, 12:56 | Link #350 |
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Well, it is a fan's first instinct to want to preserve as much detail they can in an adaptation, god knows how many times I've caught myself nitpicking the LOTR films for the same thing. But yea, as long as the essence of the story remains intact, I don't really have any issue with stuff being cut/changed, it is a practical necessity especially when going from a book to the TV screen.
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2012-07-14, 13:02 | Link #351 | |
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2012-07-14, 13:08 | Link #352 | |
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And worse, the ED turned up being bland and generic. The best I can make of this is that we'll get to the main story faster......
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2012-07-14, 13:29 | Link #353 |
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I can live with Argo absence, Diabel turn good guy and Kibaou is just a jerk thing.
But axing Asuna in the dungeon hurt the most. I personally consider that scene most important among the three (dungeon, bread, bath). And that guidebook, where do they come from ? from Diabel ?? or some mystery man yet to be introduced (if they bother introduce him at all ). Right now, Asuna feel like one generic female character to me. Next episode, Kirito will move on and get new girl and on and on..... How many eppisdoe before she get screen time again ? Perhap they plan to make it not obvoius who gonna be female lead ? That is not a bad move, then why make OP and ED and everything so obvious ^^"
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2012-07-14, 14:21 | Link #354 |
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Eh, if you guys are thinking of this solely in terms of an adaptation of Aria, then yea. As an adaptation of SAO however, I don't think much has been lost in the stuff that were cut/changed, especially considering the multitude of conflicting elements Aria has with the novel.
As far as Asuna is concerned, this is her introductory episode, and it did that job well. They're not trying to anoint her as Kirito's old lady this early in the story, nor should they, given how they seems to be going with the novel's approach, which doesn't have any romantic stuff between Kirito and Asuna until much later. |
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And the conflicting elements Aria had with the novel were easily adjustable with the full story in hand. Quote:
Nobody is saying anything about there needing to be KiriAsu yet; there was never any real KiriAsu in the Aria SS in the first place.
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2012-07-14, 14:44 | Link #357 | |
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Sorry, but I disagree. Your complains are exactly the kind that are always made by fans who are comparing the adaptation to the original material. |
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2012-07-14, 14:50 | Link #358 | ||
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Their talk about why Asuna fights isn't deep? Even in the anime version it is, but it loses that depth because we don't see any basis for it. Of course you helped to point out another flaw in the episode; Asuna's talk really doesn't seem that deep in the anime because, as I pointed out, there's no basis for viewers to see where she's coming from. They just see a girl in a cloak. In the novels, we see how near-self-destructive she acts, and that shores up her character and then we can see what the heck she's talking about later. Quote:
I explained exactly how my thoughts are based in anime-only origination. Why is Asuna opening up to a guy she has barely interracted with? Even from anime-only, you can tell she's a quiet loner so where's the openness suddenly coming from? Why is she talking about not wanting to lose to the game? From the 1 1/2 - 2 minutes of interaction they had while forming their party? Rushed and contrived.
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2012-07-14, 15:07 | Link #359 |
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I do agree that the plot of this episode seems rushed. But lets face it. Generally adaptations will always lack that little bit of magic that made the source material shine. What's done is done. Let's just hope the pacing improves when we get to the meat of the story.
And yeah Asunas character development this ep did feel lacking somewhat. But maybe this is just an LN readers bias. Anyway I'll still give the SAO anime the benefit of the doubt until it finishes it's run. What I'm worried about the most right now is if they rush RNR next Saturday as well. If they do condense it I hope they preserve the sense of loss and anguish that particular SS brought to the table for it's full effect.
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