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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 15 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 45 | 24.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 46 | 25.41% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 49 | 27.07% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 24 | 13.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 6 | 3.31% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.55% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.76% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 2 | 1.10% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.55% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 2 | 1.10% | |
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2012-10-15, 03:47 | Link #341 | |
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Anyway, the point is, Kirito is too used to system assists to fully develop his own style, but given some time I think he can get over it...unless he gets dragged in another MMO and quits kendo after all. |
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2012-10-15, 05:05 | Link #343 | |
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If you're right about how to interpret her line here, then shouldn't we see a face of determination, and not crying that looks like a person mourning inescapable loss?
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2012-10-15, 05:05 | Link #344 | |
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Kirito did exceptionally well despite this. Plus, he still has the potential to be much, much better still. His instinct is pretty good, also note she mentioned how this seemed like second nature to him. he just needs to learn the basics of kendo and work from his way up -- he is already familiar with danger and what a hesitant attitude can mean in a battle. Now he just needs to train his body to keep up with him. This is why I like SAO so much. This is such a world out of the ordinary, but they still remember to apply little details like this. I'm not too sure about the NTR going in there, and the anime team did omit a lot of important bits from the novel (from what I've seen in the forums, at least. I haven't read the novel).
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2012-10-15, 05:11 | Link #345 | |
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2012-10-15, 05:16 | Link #346 |
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Well, I concede that Kirito wasn't able to go all out due to his body condition, but I still think that he could've put on a better fight. Certainly Kendo was adapted from real sword fight (like every other martial arts in the world duh), but with the exception of the throat thrust, they're mostly meant to be non-lethal. Whereas Kirito has been fighting in SAO, with all his experiences trained to kill something.
You might argue that the monsters have limited AI, but as Kirito has mentioned before, the monsters gets more and more random for each floor they've gone upwards, and if I'm not mistaken he has fought the level 70 Lizard thing for hours just to induce the AI into using similar attack patterns and counterattack from there. That is one wtf AI in my opinion, and for Kirito to do that SOLO is even crazier. Well, still, I guess Suguha did have the advantage and should win. Like you guys said, she did train for a longer time (despite less hours) than her brother. And for a patient like Kirito to force her all out is... I guess... amazing? |
2012-10-15, 05:24 | Link #347 | |
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2012-10-15, 05:41 | Link #348 | |
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The popularity of sister (incest, cousin, adopted, step, etc) romance theme as an otaku fad goes way back. One of the most popular franchise of this said genre, Sister Princess, was around since 1999. Natural, the popular eroge with the subject, was 1998. In fact, the first Imouto-romance fad came around the time Doukyuusei 2 and Natural was popular, in the late 90s, not to mention Kana-imouto. Sister Princess carried the fad through the early 2000s, and the early 2000s titles often started to incorporate the Imouto cliche. Sure, the theme has been around for decades in shoujo manga, but its popularity in otaku culture first hit boom in late 90s and florished in early 2000s, then after that it became a inheritent cliche running deep for a decade, and then resurfaced as a fad again around 2010 with the explosion of shitty Light Novels cashing in on the theme. If anything, 2005 was right in the middle of the boom. As someone who actually lived through the otaku fads of the past three decades, I can tell you there's well more than dozens of examples, bud! And I'm telling you as a matter of fact: Imouto cliche was popularized already in the early 2000s. AS A MATTER OF FACT, the Imouto-relationship genre was so popular and out of control, with hundreds of titles coming out during the late 90s to early 2000s, the self-censorship group Softrin decided to tighten the regulation on it, banning incest theme from being used on adult game titles or else lose softrin sticker of approval. Shortly after this move was made, many of the game titles started using "step-sister" as the way to work around the incest problem, but still provide the otaku with imouto relationship fix. This carried on to other market in the otaku community, making "sister that's not a direct sibling" a popoular theme. Softrin finally realized the futile effect of this silly ban, and lifted it in 04. I can go on, and on, bringing hundreds of examples to the table, hell, I experienced first-hand what the explosion of popularity was like back in 98-2004 myself. Buuuut I think I've already made my point.
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2012-10-15, 05:45 | Link #349 | |
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SAO can no more train sword masters then Microsoft Flight Simulator can train combat pilots |
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2012-10-15, 08:22 | Link #351 | |
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So anyway, I don't think we can conclude from this scene that she's given up yet. Besides, they only just introduced the plot element, so it's way too early for her to accept it just yet -- there's no point introducing an unrequited love interest and having them accept it at the same moment. She does realize that Kazuto only sees Asuna right now, but she has kind of been out of his life for the last two years. I think she isn't out of chances to convey her feelings yet, even if the odds of Kazuto accepting are (we know, and to a degree she knows) essentially zero.
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2012-10-15, 08:52 | Link #352 | |
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I'd say your rather doing them a disservice by saying they don't have real battle experience, seeing as they were fighting for their lives in a very realistic manner, saw friends die, and killed people. They're going to be plenty of people traumatized, and displaying the sort of PTSD, and reluctance to discuss parts of their experience that you see in war veterans.
What they don't have is real world battle experience. The main differences being that what is physical possible for a given body frame will be very different, the lack of pain and accumulated injury in VR, and blows that would cripple or kill them iin the real world would merely drastically decrease their HP in the game. The last being the least important given the high priority of not taking such hits in the game due to the risk. The bottom line being that they've accumulated lots of combat experience, but it's not a one to one transfer as we saw this episode. It's immensely helpful, but they'd still need to train in the real world to adjust to the differences. Quote:
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2012-10-15, 09:28 | Link #353 | |
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Simulators are used as complementary tools in military training, primarily due to cost/time considerations. It doesn't matter how many hours you log in a simulator, it does not replace the actual hours that you'd need to log in an actual plane. A VR simulator, especially one at SAO's level, cannot replicate the myriad of physical forces that will be exerted on a pilot's body, it can't accurately replicate how a user's body will react in a real world scenario, which greatly limits its usefulness as a primary training tool. There's a reason why we're still using live-fire range for training, instead of using only the ISMT - the same principle goes for both military and civilian pilots. Now if you're talking about a Holodeck, that's another story |
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2012-10-15, 09:57 | Link #357 | |
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2012-10-15, 10:20 | Link #358 | |
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2012-10-15, 10:45 | Link #360 | |
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