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In the first episode, Nina was new to the Capital. She has been in the city for 10 days. She landed several part time jobs in (Tokyo? ). The baker told her that Charioce was such a great guy, because he rebuilt the ruining city, and economy is prospering. At the construction site, Nina Learned that Charioce was involved in the battle against Bahamut. Nina recalled Bahamut's blaze ruining her village. At the construction site, Nina also learned about the Capital's open dark secret. Quote:
Nina's village lacks young adults, because they had to move out to feed their families. So, Nina is vulnerable due to lacking exposure to young men. Even hunky bouncers are rude, ugly and unethical. Nina almost turns into the dragon. |
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2017-06-17, 22:21 | Link #343 | |
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Regarding the chains, even if she could actually break them, the guards would just replace those and this time probably reinforced with magic. Without Jeane there's no way for Nina to escape the prison anyway so why bother? |
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2017-06-17, 22:41 | Link #345 |
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I mean, it's a labyrinth-like prison so even if she punched random doors and start a riot there, she would not have time to find the exit without Charioce bringing the Onyx knights first and probably lock Nina in a special room this time. She can't even transform into a dragon at the moment so she would not be able to accomplish much anyway.
My only complain regarding all this situation is that, like you pointed out, she didn't care at all about the other prisioners being abused and did not even tried to look up for a way to free them. She was prepared to help the demons before but this time she just wanted to have some fun regardless. |
2017-06-17, 22:46 | Link #346 | |
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another think which i was thinking imagine if her family find about it and her "village come to help her" the kingdom could easy be raised down, with a lot of "dragons" doing riot an screwing with chariote plans, if just nina dragon was enough to do all that damage and easy handle all the "empowered knights" and constructors, imagine like 50 or 100 of them coming..,
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And this is Anatae, the capital. I wouldn't have a problem if it was some random village, but the capital? Even in actual RL medieval times news traveled fast in central cities. When the king not simply dismisses a much beloved public figure (Jeanne) but actually sends her to live in disgrace and poverty and whatnot, it's not the sort of thing that people in the capital just don't know about. (By the way, if Jeanne still had fans why did nobody help her? If people are brave enough to throw Molotov cocktails at the palace for turning against the gods then helping a "saint" on the run would have been just natural...) Not to mention after capturing her he just threw her in prison - sure, it's not the kind of prison where people come and go all the time, but clearly he wasn't worried about leaving her with a bunch of random people and guards instead of handling her more carefully, in solitary confinement or something. It would have been easier to believe this turn if they had shown some townfolk being unsatisfied with Charioce's anti-god policies, or even better, had seen some seeds of a pro-god resistance or something. Oh well, I guess this is what it is. I'm not watching this show for the plot anyway, but this was really jarring. As for Mugaro, yeah, I understand that, what I don't quite understand is whether his sudden non-interest in Azazel's wellbeing is something us viewers are supposed to find strange, or if it is just the writing being clunky again. Quote:
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Kaisar might just do the trick... Azazel was embarrassingly awkward about the whole ordeal so no wonder he had no effect whatsoever. But if they somehow manage to get Kaisar to act natural... (it would be easier if Nina was into BL. It's Kaisar and Favaro! I can already see Jeanne instructing them to do poses a la Kae and Shima in WataMote. ) |
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2017-06-18, 09:02 | Link #350 | |||
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And yeah, being the capital, word should have spread about what was going on. But also, I was just thinking, does Charioce only take his Onyx soldiers on his god raids? He doesn't seem to really care for the Orleans knights and hasn't been including them much, so I'm thinking yes. The Onyx knights seem to be silent warriors, they don't seem to talk at all. So, if they didn't speak of what really goes on and of course Charioce doesn't either, then people might not have a total idea of what Charioce is doing when he goes out for a fight. Perhaps they think when he's being anti-god he was just telling them that their services weren't needed. Not that he was raiding their sanctuaries and hunting them down. Though, I have to wonder why he had Sofiel hunted down, but not Baccus and Hansa who weren't really hiding? Quote:
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Because of this, I think that now, Kaiser, Azazel, and other hot guys might be able to affect her again.
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TBH I think it's just that the writer sucked and created a plot hole. If the gods still have such passionate followers why didn't we see any of them before? Why didn't the writers show anyone reacting to Gabriel (the angel boss) showing up with anything other than booing? Why had no-one helped Jeanne when she was disgraced? Well... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not necessarily against plot contrivances in a show like this, this one just stood out to me. Quote:
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That aside, nah, Azazel probably wouldn't work in this case. He wouldn't know suave if it hit him in the face! (Just look at how awkward and uncomfortable he was when he tried to make Nina transform. I think it speaks volumes that the most romantic line that left his mouth so far was directed at Mugaro, of all people, and as such was most likely completely unintentional. ) Kaisar on the other hand is... well, not particularly suave either, but he's chivalrous and gentle by nature, which makes it easier to generate a sort of romantic mood. (By the way I wouldn't be so sure that Nina is out of love with Charioce/Chris. Love doesn't really work in such a simple way.) |
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I notice none of us have suggested Afro-boy as a potential partner for Nina's transformation. All they'd have to do is dump a bucket of water on Favaro's head and let things develop as they did in episode nine. Getting NinaDragon to focus on the right target will still be tricky.
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And Nina's not that far off from us anime girl fans... Though seriously, if she can almost turn into a dragon by a hot guy ruffian holding her up by her throat and about to beat on her, I think any hot guy would work... Quote:
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The problem is, teenage romances rarely last, and her crush on Chris had all the hallmarks of that. I think this will end up being a learning experience for her. She's probably still affected by Charioce, and you are right in that it will take time for her to heal, but it's a process.
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Btw I don't think Azazel was ever romantic with her. He never even tried! At best he was embarrassed, and at the festival he looked like he would have rather been anywhere else doing anything else. (Meanwhile he very gently strokes Mugaro's hair and goes "If you keep smiling I might just not die tonight" in the kind of voice that I hear from Morita's character in the romantic scenes in the game I'm playing right now. It was probably unintentional but damn if it didn't make my heart skip a beat! I bet that if he had ever been like that with Nina, Charioce wouldn't be a problem anymore...) Quote:
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2017-06-18, 23:53 | Link #357 | |
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Your comment on Nina and Charioce may have some merit. Japanese writer loves the idea of tragedy. The novel Shinobi -Basilisk was inspired by Romeo and Juliet. Instead writing about the balcony talk of two star crossed lovers, they wrote the sword duel of star crossed lovers. Since this show is going to be 24 episodes, they may introduce a more suitable man for Nina, I hope. |
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2017-06-19, 06:35 | Link #358 | |
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Whatever the PVs showed, honestly it wasn't much. Realize that everything we've seen between the two of them was in that one episode. A single episode of a somewhat interaction and I'm supposed to feel like this is some kind of "love for the ages"? I don't think so. With Favaro and Amira, we got to see them grow and develop as a couple throughout the entire series. From the very first episode, we see them meet, grow annoyed with each other, one try to betray the others, the two grow to like each other and become friends and then eventually fall in love by the end. With Charioce and Nina, we have seen them together for barely 20 mins of screentime, nothing has advanced much from that first initial meeting and date, and we are now at the end of the first half! If they do decide to do a rush development in the second half (which I doubt), they will have to write their butts off to make it even a bit intriguing. I just can't see this as some kind of compelling love story between the two of them with so little personal interaction they've had thus far. Not even a tragic love story. They could force it, I guess, by the end. But I won't believe it.
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Again... thus far. We're (somewhat less than) halfway into the show. There's plenty of time for developments, in whatever direction. They'll have to give Charioce himself some focus sooner or later, anyway... |
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Interesting new episode, though strangely, wasn't really the best of episodes either.
Our main cast was okay, but their running around and escaping felt largely overshadowed by what was going on in the war. Their reunion felt boring and tacked on. No one asked any questions and just seemed to take everything in stride. And Nina's silliness is getting a bit annoying. Though all the Indiana Jones references were fun. I feel like a rode a ride that was like this, of course based on Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but I just can't remember just where... I'm sure it will come to me. Allessand annoys the crap out of me, can the kid die off? He's angry that the demon patrol is fighting the front lines? Of course, Charioce would have them fight the front lines! They are basically just meat shields to him. Of course his thinking would be to have them killed off before you risk any of your human soldiers. And the people have turned on Charioce pretty quickly. They are tired of having to always evacuate. And he's the one who picked the fight with heaven in the first place! Heaven is tearing up Charioce's men, who are pretty weak when you take away their precious green light from them. Where is Charioce digging up all this green crystal anyway? However, Gabriel and Charioce are making the same mistakes here. Gabriel is counting on El as her ace in the hole, but he might not be able to take all the power that Charioce is going to throw at him. Charioce on the other hand, is so set on proving himself superior and that he can kill anything that he's activated a doomsday device that "hasn't been tested yet and could be dangerous", which anyone who has seen anything in the last 20 years, knows will mean that it will 99.99999% go wrong and turn a bad situation, worse. Oh, and I miss Azazel. I honestly want to know what's happening with him. I actually like it more when was the main character and Nina supporting. I'm kind of over her at the moment. Also, I hate to bring it up, but, did Charioce just kill every convict and guard in that prison? I mean, that thing was under the prison and then basically rose up and exploded it, so....
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