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Old 2008-10-29, 21:47   Link #341
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The fact that Fan pointed out there are those who do not like to be ruled shows how perceptive he is.
I got the impression he was talking about himself when he said that.
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:34   Link #342
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I got the impression he was talking about himself when he said that.
Well he is bum. It doesn't mean he's a revolutionary.

Ditto too at telling Lira that a lot of people are living at peace under Tytania.

Fan has a knack for finding holes in someone's philosophy.
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Old 2008-10-30, 17:23   Link #343
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I don't think Idris is as dangerous as Jouslain. I have to agree with the Iwa no Hana blog that this is entirely too likely:
I think you missed Stormy's point a bit. True, Jouslain is brilliant. He's the most competent of the Tytania.

Idris, however, is a bloodthirsty maniac. His goal in life seems to score the highest body count possible. Jouslain isn't dangerous to the average joe, Idris will put average joe in front of a firing squad because he's enjoying it.
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Old 2008-11-01, 09:50   Link #344
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"That was the best kiss in the universe."

What an awesome line.

Episode 04 was pretty good, though it looks like that's the last we'll see of Lira for a while --- or completely.
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Old 2008-11-01, 10:55   Link #345
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I still don't get it how little princess fits in all this.

Other than being the moe blob every episode.

Why the heck do they put furnishings on a warship? Seems decadent to me. One should be alert at a moment's notice not relaxed.
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Old 2008-11-01, 12:22   Link #346
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I still don't get it how little princess fits in all this.

Other than being the moe blob every episode.

Why the heck do they put furnishings on a warship? Seems decadent to me. One should be alert at a moment's notice not relaxed.
I believe it was a merchant ship and that little girl is the person that will be able to stop Tytania, as the (not so) subtle hint in the first episode implied.
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Old 2008-11-01, 13:43   Link #347
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Hee. Zalish is a mama's boy. Can't say I'm surprised.

I find myself shipping Fan x Lyra a lot more than Lyra x De Bohr.

Also, Miranda's awesome.
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Old 2008-11-01, 13:49   Link #348
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I believe it was a merchant ship and that little girl is the person that will be able to stop Tytania, as the (not so) subtle hint in the first episode implied.
What's she going to do, use her loli powers on them?
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Old 2008-11-01, 14:17   Link #349
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I find myself shipping Fan x Lyra a lot more than Lyra x De Bohr.
That's because Lyra x De Bohr is boooooring.

& yeah Miranda is pretty awesome.

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What's she going to do, use her loli powers on them?
That or she's going to sing.

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Old 2008-11-01, 17:09   Link #350
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"That was the best kiss in the universe."

What an awesome line.

Episode 04 was pretty good, though it looks like that's the last we'll see of Lira for a while --- or completely.
I doubt that is all we are going to see of Lira. She is in the ending. I think Lira is what is going to make Fan change his mind and go against Tytania. It is obvious that both Fan and Lira have fallen for each other as we saw at the end of episode 4, they are longing for each other.
It is all over for LiraxDe borh. I don't think Lira and De bohr were a couple, more like De bohr had the hots for Lira.
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Old 2008-11-01, 17:38   Link #351
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"That was the best kiss in the universe."

What an awesome line.
Fan is a stud. He plays the bumbling fool most of the time, but he knows when to turn the charm on.

My favorite part of the episode is how they kept kissing for a few extra seconds. Lol.
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Old 2008-11-01, 19:09   Link #352
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Miranda wins the coolest character award so far. Still, I'm waiting for Jouslain to do something.
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Old 2008-11-01, 21:05   Link #353
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Hmm. Here we go again with the shipping Lira x Fan is certainly more interesting than other alternatives. However, the problem with this series is the chronic overpopulation of bishies (as expected of shoujo, I suppose).

@Blaat:
what was the not so subtle hint? I was half-asleep through that first episode and do not fancy going through all that again.

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What's she going to do, use her loli powers on them?
It has worked plenty of times before. Unfortunately. She has a lot of growing up to do mentally if she's to be of any use, though.
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Old 2008-11-01, 21:23   Link #354
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The princess is more like the innocence foil to Tytania, just like the shoe polisher is innocence foil to Fan.
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Old 2008-11-01, 22:20   Link #355
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Another very good episode, and filled with lol.

Our hero Fan is again the victim of circumstances. No matter what he wants the situation just won't allow him. He just went with the flow.

Lira should've come with Fan but at least they got a kiss. Hopefully we'll see her in future eps.

Miranda is just a badass princess who's pretty much laid back. Doesn't want to start of a revolution and pretty much enjoying her current live as a smuggler, er I mean trader. The way she threatened the Vardhana officer was just priceless.

So in the end, the Old Man is a flag ship filled with bunch of criminals who'll eventually change the stagnant flow of history, led by Fan Hyulick.

I eagerly awaits for the next episode.
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:09   Link #356
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:19   Link #357
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You know, it's not often that I venture into a series like this, but for now, I'm really happy that I have. It's got plenty of good factionalism in it to keep it interesting, especially with the Tytania's power struggle that they need to deal with from within that it's almost reminiscent of what became of Alexander the Great's empire after he died (For those not history-oriented, his generals fought amongst themselves and eventually carved out spheres of influence). Very interested in seeing where that's going to end up.

And Fan, for his part is fairly likable. It's rare to see such a down-to-earth person who's perceptive enough to point out other people's logical flaws. The way he manages to disarm Lira's arguments was absolutely perfect by pointing out the flip side of the coin she hadn't considered. Of course, as others have already pointed out, he's pretty much forced to go with the flow seeing that the rest of the universe would be only too happy to get him on their side whether it's for prestige, make him a sort of figurehead, or to eliminate him outright.

Hopefully the pace will continue and the plot will stay as strong as it has been.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:51   Link #358
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Closest historical example for current Tytania will be the Tokugawa Shogunate.

However the political play resembled the Warring States period where after kanpaku Hideyoshi Toyotomi died and various warlords began stake their claim for ultimate power leads to rise of Tokugawa.
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Old 2008-11-02, 03:31   Link #359
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Man I love this show.

I hope when it gets optioned for the English market it's not one of the usual suspects but someone who really wants to get it out to the public - the US syndication market is going to blow sky high after the Digital Switch-over in February and all your local channels start turning themselves into mini-multiplex outlets with multiple streams of programming. I'm amazed that no one has grabbed all those old classic Japanese imports from the 60s and 70s and started a nostalgia syndication channel already.

If handled right with proper backing and quality voice acting (anyone else want to hear Kevin Conroy playing Ajuman Titania?), I think Tytania could be spun into this generation's Robotech. It's looking like it'd be a killer in a 10pm weekend syndication slot. It's smart and epic. Match it up with a second quality show, say Cowboy Bebop, and you could package it as an hour anime two-fer.
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Old 2008-11-02, 07:32   Link #360
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Man I love this show.

I hope when it gets optioned for the English market it's not one of the usual suspects but someone who really wants to get it out to the public - the US syndication market is going to blow sky high after the Digital Switch-over in February and all your local channels start turning themselves into mini-multiplex outlets with multiple streams of programming. I'm amazed that no one has grabbed all those old classic Japanese imports from the 60s and 70s and started a nostalgia syndication channel already.

If handled right with proper backing and quality voice acting (anyone else want to hear Kevin Conroy playing Ajuman Titania?), I think Tytania could be spun into this generation's Robotech. It's looking like it'd be a killer in a 10pm weekend syndication slot. It's smart and epic. Match it up with a second quality show, say Cowboy Bebop, and you could package it as an hour anime two-fer.
Well most R1 fans aren't nostalgic unless you're talking about the fans of the westernized version of the anime titles. These blokes are in their 40's now. Tytania wouldn't fit with those titles. Crest/Banner of the Stars was never completely released. That frachise is prob the most current indicator of how this one would do.

Anime if it's not Bleach or Naruto doesn't fair too well on TV here. Just ask watchers of Code Geass, One Piece and Moribito.

We'd be lucky if this makes it over to R1 as sub only.

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Anyways, I'm prob the only one that hopes that this is the last of Lyra. She altered some jeans that her grandmother gave her out of nostalgia instead of saving her money and buying some other used clothes that fit and storing the jeans. It's like she's wearing those jeans as some badge of honor. She works for re-establishment of a monarchy despite the fact that the heir is pretty comfortable doing something else and not interested. She needs to move on with her life. Fan needs to find someone more "with it". It's prob only a matter of time before Alses catches up with her. She's practically waving a death flag.
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