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Old 2015-03-22, 19:48   Link #36101
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I'll always remember the time they caned an American tourist for vandalism. Or at least thats how the story goes.

/so good
What has that got to do with LKY's death?
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Old 2015-03-22, 22:10   Link #36102
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I'll always remember the time they caned an American tourist for vandalism. Or at least thats how the story goes.

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What has that got to do with LKY's death?
To clarify, the canning of the American (Michael Fay, whose the son of either a congressman or senator) took place during the reign of the second prime minister, Goh Chok Tong.

He stole some street signs and spray painted some cars, was sentenced to jail and 6 strokes of cane, which was reduced to 4 on the personal appeal of US president Bill Clinton.
I've heard that one of the cars vandalized belonged to a judge who asked the police on the progress on the case, which was speculated to be why the police actually took action and searched for the culprits
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Old 2015-03-22, 22:19   Link #36103
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To clarify, the canning of the American (Michael Fay, whose the son of either a congressman or senator) took place during the reign of the second prime minister, Goh Chok Tong.

He stole some street signs and spray painted some cars, was sentenced to jail and 6 strokes of cane, which was reduced to 4 on the personal appeal of US president Bill Clinton.
I've heard that one of the cars vandalized belonged to a judge who asked the police on the progress on the case, which was speculated to be why the police actually took action and searched for the culprits
Guess there is someone actually in the know.

Nope it is not a judge. It is Judicial Comissioner Amarjeet Singh. Served as an Ad litem Judge for UN courts in the aftermath of Kosovo.

And he is highly esteemed in the legal community then, so it scared the pants off the SPF.
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Old 2015-03-23, 05:40   Link #36104
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That girl is awesome. She even has time to cap her pen.

And lol at that pissed look on her face. I want to take her home and teach her more advanced things....*IS SHOT*

And there is a technique to that more than abacus which I remember to do so :

ABC
ABC
ABC

Arrange the numbers mentally like this, then add everything up per column (A/B/C), ignoring all the digits other than the ones in each case.

Arrange the results according to each row. Whatever is left is your tenth (X0) and thousand-hundredths (XX00). Add them to the answer.

Do it enough times and you can get the answer in less than a second.

Multiplication of 7-digit numbers is actually doable in an advanced mathematical concept known as Matrices. Put everything in 2x7 matrix form, tweak the formula a little and you can get the answer really fast.
Could you elaborate on the step to get the tenth and thousand-hundredths?

For example,

123
246
369

The columns add up to 6 12 18, so discarding the tens, it leaves 628.

How do I get the remaining 110?

Edit: Eh, I think I figured it out. The two tens digits from 12 and 18 are 1 and 1, which makes it 110, which gets the correct answer 738 when added to 628.
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Old 2015-03-23, 05:45   Link #36105
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Deep condolences to the people of Singapore. He is a very good leader with inspiring life to tell to your children / grand children later.
Well, he can finally rest now at the very least. It is always tragic when someone dies.


Oh and the Istana is filled with crowds....National mourning period it seems
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Old 2015-03-23, 06:43   Link #36106
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I may be going on Wednesday evening.
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Old 2015-03-23, 07:18   Link #36107
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Old 2015-03-23, 08:42   Link #36108
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I may be going on Wednesday evening.
And you guys have a president??
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Old 2015-03-23, 09:07   Link #36109
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I may be going on Wednesday evening.
Parliament? I may drop by...

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And you guys have a president??
For me it's more of sending off someone who has lived such a long and eventful life as a fellow human being, nothing political at all
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Old 2015-03-23, 09:22   Link #36110
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No, that is not I mean...
When I read the news about the passing of LKY, there is a statement by Singapore President Tony Tan. And I'm like, wait, what, Singapore has a president?

Nothing political about that. Just me that not informed enough.
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Old 2015-03-23, 09:37   Link #36111
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No, that is not I mean...
When I read the news about the passing of LKY, there is a statement by Singapore President Tony Tan. And I'm like, wait, what, Singapore has a president?

Nothing political about that. Just me that not informed enough.
Truth be told, he is just a political representative. The last time any president in office did anything is Ong Teng Chong, who ordered a full review of our national reserves. And aptly put it, "If you don't like what I do, I can always go back to my architectural firm.". And the old man respected him for that.

He is one of those few who dared to take a stand against LKY and got out without a lawsuit, like S.R Rajaratnam, Low Khia Thiang, Philip Yeo, Tommy Koh and plus-minus the old guard. The problem we have is the current batch of ministers are too passive, and that is killing our progress. Sooner or later China will eat us up for that.

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Parliament? I may drop by...
Think so. Have to doublecheck for that. You want to go too?
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Old 2015-03-23, 10:09   Link #36112
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Think so. Have to doublecheck for that. You want to go too?
Yeah. Like I said, to send him off. Seems proper
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Old 2015-03-23, 10:16   Link #36113
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Would like to hear from you guys in Singapore what you think about LKY - here in Hong Kong the main media's stance is more like a benevolent and kind dictator, brought prosperity to Singapore at the price of curtailing individual freedom. One of the news clip showed him coming to Hong Kong and saying that Hong Kong deserves democracy, but alas in life you don't always get what you deserve. I like him for saying that.

He's also very relevant to Hong Kong now because I suspect quite a few people would rather like his kind of strong-handed rule and ultra-efficient government (and I guess for the coming few days lots of people are going to compare HK with Singapore, saying HK has too many political troublemakers or is too slow in carrying out stuff because there's always opposition)
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Old 2015-03-23, 10:16   Link #36114
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No, that is not I mean...
When I read the news about the passing of LKY, there is a statement by Singapore President Tony Tan. And I'm like, wait, what, Singapore has a president?

Nothing political about that. Just me that not informed enough.
Yes, however in SG's context, executive power is in the hands of the Prime Minister, so the office of the president is more of a figurehead and a 'check and balance' against the use of the reserves. Although him being nominated by the ruling party kind of defeats the purpose. There's speculation that in doing so, he can make things difficult for any other party that comes into power by denying them to use the money in the coffers.
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Old 2015-03-23, 11:06   Link #36115
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Would like to hear from you guys in Singapore what you think about LKY - here in Hong Kong the main media's stance is more like a benevolent and kind dictator, brought prosperity to Singapore at the price of curtailing individual freedom. One of the news clip showed him coming to Hong Kong and saying that Hong Kong deserves democracy, but alas in life you don't always get what you deserve. I like him for saying that.

He's also very relevant to Hong Kong now because I suspect quite a few people would rather like his kind of strong-handed rule and ultra-efficient government (and I guess for the coming few days lots of people are going to compare HK with Singapore, saying HK has too many political troublemakers or is too slow in carrying out stuff because there's always opposition)
One sentence. He is our God Emperor.

Even pro-free speech nuts like me respected him despite detesting him for his pro-censorship attitude. Without him, there can be no Singapore. The reason why he enacted the draconian laws throughout the 60s is due to the changing world; the world is rapidly decolonialising, and the East-West hemispheres are at war; we have proxy fights throughout the entire Cold War. The Malayan Emergency, the PKI in Indonesia and the most famous being Vietnam (damn you stupid Yanks why support the surrender monkeys). LKY had to clamp down hard on the communists and the detractors (Barisan Socialis), and then in 1987 the Catholic Church in Operation Spectrum so he can have that sole right to guide Singaporeans (the MRHA was introduced in 1990 to dissociate state from religion, which IMO, is a overdue move).

Those are terrible decisions, though one can find it hard to blame him for it. The issue is with the repercussions 50 years down the road - our Ministers have no spine, we do not innovate, and we rely on manpower to boost productivity rather than on large-scale machinery and automation.

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From a political observation, I think Hong Kong should just pursue independence like Taiwan. China is too big and corrupted, they wouldn't even have bothered to manage HK and Taiwan even if they are China's SEZ - it is too much of a workload for the CCP.

The real troublemakers are the implanted officials by China - greedy, incompetent and blind. When the British first came to Hong Kong, they make the effort to assimilate into the local population after their colonial police came back with cracked heads - pretty much what they did in Singapore through Pickering. The officials taking over HK from the British never bothered to even reach out; they came in and assumed that they are the law.
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Old 2015-03-23, 12:17   Link #36116
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I'll have to wait till June to come back to pay my respects.

Hopefully bringing back all the As I can carry.

It's the Singaporean way.

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Yes, however in SG's context, executive power is in the hands of the Prime Minister, so the office of the president is more of a figurehead and a 'check and balance' against the use of the reserves. Although him being nominated by the ruling party kind of defeats the purpose. There's speculation that in doing so, he can make things difficult for any other party that comes into power by denying them to use the money in the coffers.
We were kinda sworn to the President during National Service so that has to count for something =p !
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Old 2015-03-23, 18:08   Link #36117
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I recall one night from long ago, when I was about six years old. My family was travelling home to Farrer Court. My father was driving.

Singapore's second president, Benjamin Sheares, had died just a few days prior. I believe there was a national day of mourning, because there was a school holiday, and I didn't have to attend my afternoon pre-primary class.

At six years old, I didn't understand death. I didn't even find it scary. My mother tells me that when my maternal grandfather passed away in Malacca, I even played hide-and-seek under his coffin during the wake!

So, that night, as my family was heading home, I innocently asked my dad about Mr Sheares. I knew he had passed away, but I couldn't grasp the significance of the event.

"Was he an important person?" I think I asked. My dad explained, yes, because Mr Sheares was the president, and that was why everyone was remembering him.

"What about the prime minister, then? What if Mr Lee Kuan Yew dies?" I asked in return.

My dad laughed, saying that wasn't going to happen (at 57, Mr Lee was still very much in his prime) and if it did, Singapore would be in big trouble.

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Thirty-four years later, I now know two things.

First, I know now, and appreciate better, the impact of death, the final parting.

The enormity of it may not strike us immediately, but it can catch us unawares — a glimpse of a long-forgotten photo, the sudden refrain of a familiar tune — and then grief hits us like a tidal wave.

The second thing: My father was wrong, on two counts (after all, he was only human, like me, like all of us).

Mr Lee, an ever-present figure throughout my life, could die.

But Singapore isn't in big trouble, despite his passing.

We will survive. Better yet, we will thrive.

Rest in peace, Mr Lee Kuan Yew (1923-2015).
Singaporeans born before 1990, will no doubt remember a very different Lee Kuan Yew. They have no direct recollection of him, delivering his speeches in Parliament, at his National Day Rallies. For them, Lee Kuan Yew, was a stern grandfather, constantly hectoring them, always demanding nothing but the best from them. He was a slavedriver, a taskmaster and a no-nonsense disciplinarian who had never hesitated to demolish fools and destroy his enemies.

Singaporeans who grew up with him as prime minister, as an MP for Tanjong Pagar, a former working-class district now transformed into an upmarket constituency with boutique shops and fine dining, will remember a different person.

Harsh, yes, but only when he was acting in his official capacity. Grassroots and parliamentary colleagues remember a patient man who preferred to persuade his team through force of reason and a mountain of carefully marshalled facts, and not brute force. Contrary to the popular opinion in the often-bigoted West, Mr Lee never forced his decision on his friends, family and colleagues — he'd constantly mentor them instead, until they made up their own minds, fully convinced of the need to follow the course he believed to be the best for Singapore.

For many ordinary Singaporeans, they'd remember him not just for his electrifying charisma, but also as a man of iron integrity who loved interacting with his residents on a personal level. When Mr Lee promised to do something, to take care of some municipal annoyance or inconveniences, he always delivered, and with warmth.

Mr Lee wouldn't have cared what people think of him, in any case. He was a slave to ideas and learning. He cared most about doing what was effective, with the best information available to him at any time. He had admitted he was sometimes wrong, but having weighed all his options at every waking moment, he was resolved never to regret any decision he made.

We'll never see another man like him again.
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Old 2015-03-23, 20:07   Link #36118
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We'll never see another man like him again.
The world never progresses without people like him.
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Old 2015-03-23, 20:41   Link #36119
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And people forget :

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The Sensei are also a vital part of the Illuminati's plan to save humanity through the rejuvenation of the Emperor. The Illuminati gather the Sensei and protect them from the Inquisition, preparing them for "the final war with Chaos". In truth however the Illuminati intend to sacrifice to the Emperor his sons, in the same way many millions of psykers have already been sacrificed to feed the Emperor. All of the remaining Sensei are to be offered to the Emperor as a sacrifice at the moment his will finally breaks. The Emperor will be rejuvenated, and reborn as the Sensei-Emperor to again lead his race in person.
So what was it again when he said about rising from the grave?
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Old 2015-03-24, 05:54   Link #36120
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First and foremost, my condolences to the Lee family. It's a pity that he didn't live to see SG50.

What has really piqued my interest though, is the next election. I've been hearing that there were plans to use the euphoria of SG50 to hold an election, but the party might have to regroup themselves for now.
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