This scene is the epic Erika/Dlanor/Bern/Lambda MetaBattle of the MetaWorld. It ends when October 6, 1986 begins.
- Lambda is in glee of excitement. She laughs at Erika's plight. Erika is still in shock. She aplogizes for failing Bern. Bern mocks the failure of her piece and laughs. Erika feels completely humiliated.
- Bern laughs in some sort of angry (?) or jeering (?) fit.
- Side RealWorld. Battler tells Beato this is their fight. Clock advances to 11 am/pm (not sure).
- MetaBattler is sitting with Beato as the rain pours. Virgilia is knitting quietly. The first climax of the game had just ended. Battler is considering his actions from here. The fight is still ongoing even though Beato is not present.
- Virgilia stop knitting and notices someone approaching. Battler notices it too.
- Dlanor arrives. She compliments the rose garden. Battler asks why she's here. She greets Beato and Virgilia, who apparently knows each other. Virgilia tells Battler it's ok, she didn't come to fight.
- Virgilia and Dlanor reminisce about old times. They want to have a match again someday. She sits down near Virgilia and Virgilia offers tea. She also offers some to Battler and Beato who accept.
- Battler tells Dlanor that the game is controlled by Bern and Lambda, and that she is an invited gust by the master. Virgilia reminds Dlanor to introduce herself to Battler and Beato, who are clearly different from the pieces.
- Beato of course does not respond. They all end up drinking tea together.
- Dlanor comments on Virgilia using magic to make tea. Battler tells her of how he played by analysing the games to find a human explanation. They talk about Knox article 9 and something hard to read.
- Dlanor narrates about using magic and tea by Virgilia and some other text. She adds something about wicked enemies using magic.
- Virgiia says something about not letting guests into the kitchen. She tells them to be careful the tea is hot. Dlanor asks for sugar and milk.
- They try to differentiate between "lie" and "modification". Dlanor compares to a child getting candy and putting it crumpled in its pocket.
- Not sure but I think their alluding to what a child would see as magic and gifts? That their interpretations and meanings change depending on the person? Dlanor reasons the end result is what is important.
- Dlanot talks about her inquisition to hunt and punish witches? Battler realizes all this talk has to do with how interpretations and meanings change depending on the person (?).
- Battler thinks about the essence of magic needed for understanding it? He tells Dlanor of not yer participating because he might be manipulated by Bern and Lambda.
- Virgilia seems to suggest Lambda wants a drawn game because Erika's appearance tilts it towards Bern's (human) side (?). The story might have also been manipulated.
- Dlanor thanks Battler? Some text I don't understand.
- Battler and Dlanor seem to reach an agreement about using their pieces.
- Dlanor seems to apologize for the previous battle, the one she lost I think. Battler doesn't seem to mind and mentions fate.
- Virgilia says the win was transferred. I'm not sure where who or how.
- Virgilia restates that Kinzo's been dead before any of the games start. I think she means there was no real victory because Kinzo was never alive.
- Battler asks why this red was not said. Dlanor states in red Knox article 2, that supernatural abilities for the detective are not allowed. She also states the red that after the rainfall, the window has not been opened. Dlanor apparently refrained from using these reds.
- I think the game masters made her refrain from usig them? Virgilia says it is not her fault. Dlanor says in red that Kinzo does not exist. Virgilia wonders why Bern and Lambda would allow the witch side to continue. Perhaps so that the game does not stop?
- Battler asks if she came her to tell them exactly what she talked about. She said no, because the game stopped and will restart sooner or later. She finishes her tea and stands.
- Dlanor says she is originally neutral but was used (?) by Bern and Erika (?). They question Erika's power as a piece and Dlanor calls her a wicked existence.
- Dlanor begins to take her leave of them. She doesn't like being an underling of such wickedness. She doesn't seem to have a choice.
- Virgilia I think mentions Dlanor got here because Beato allowed her to get here. Dlanor seems to thank Beato, and leaves.
- Battler asks if no one can get to where they are if Beato does not allow them. Virgilia says it is Beato who called Dlanor here.
- Battler wonders if likewise Beato allowed Ange to get here for him.
- Virgilia says everything here is what Beato hoped for. Battler wonders if she meant for him to learn something from that guy (Dlanor I guess).
- Erika helps Cornelia up on one foot. She pushes Cornelia down. She asks her up and pushes her down again. Repeatedly. I assume Erika's lost it completely.
- Repeat pushing down ad nauseum.
- She's apparently taking out her frustrations on Cornelia.
- Gertrude asks that she forgive her. Erika says she must take Cornelia's place.
- Gertrude does as ordered, but they disappear before she can push her. Dlanor appears. She asks that her attendants be spared. Erika tugs at Dlanor's hair.
- Erika says she does not have the right to retort her. She says she was scolded by Bern because Dlanor failed.
- Erika tells Dlanor to summon back her attendants. I think she will try to reason out the problem with them.
- They discuss the letter that appeared at 12mn. They restructure the dining room events as Erika tries to beat Beato back with the appearance of the letter.
- Erika confirms the positions of everyone in this island.
- Gertrude says in red that Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda and Kumasawa were in the guesthouse. Cornelia adds in red that only Natsuhi, Krauss and Genji were in the second floor corridor. The other 5 are in the dining room.
- Erika questions that with everyone accounted for, the problem of who put the letter on the dining room door exists.
- She says there is no guarantee the letter was there at 12mn. It is possible it was there before 12mn
- Shannon and Kanon confirm the letter was not there bfore 12mn (?). Erika says in blue that Krauss, Natsuhi or Genjo could have placed it there. She adds in blue that the residence is locked so no one outside could have placed it, pretended to have returned to the guesthouse, or just hid (?).
- They now question the knock. Erika says in blue it is possible no one knocked, as you can hit a structure on the second floor that would make a knock sound. They think someone knocked. Or, perhaps, the knock sound was prerecorded. She presents these theories to Bern.
- Side MetaWorld. Lambda questions Erika's skill. Narrator points out that someone not in the room may have secretly put the letter there. Lambda says in red that neither Natsuhi, Genjo or Krauss touched that letter.
- Bern says in blue that Shannon or kanon may have been last in the line that entered and dropped the letter there.
- Lambda says in red that yes the letter was there at 12mn and someone did put the letter there. It all falls to interpretation.
- Bern says in blue that the letter was somewhere else before 12mn and was moved by some method to the dining room corridor.
- Erika postulates in blue that perhaps the letter stuck on the meal cart and after a while peeled off to the floor of the corridor. In other words, establishing an alibi that makes differentiates the location and time of the person from when the letter was placed there.
- Gertrude says it is lucky it fell there. If the person was unskilled it could have ended up elsewhere.
- Dlanor points out the mystery of who put it there.
- Lambda I guess does not rebut this. She goes straight to asking about the knock sound. She says in red that neither Krauss, Natsuhi nor Genji are the source of the knock. This is not limited to an actual knock. There is also no thing that reproduces the sound, including transmissions, cassette recordings and knocking on a pillar. The sound is also not done accidentally or unconsciously.
- Lambda says in blue the possibility of mishearing the sound as a knock.
- Cordelia confirms in red that Natsuhi, Genji and Krauss were in the second floor corridor at 12mn. Gertrude confirms in red that none of the people in the dining room nor the three being Genji, Krauss and Natsuhi knocked on the door. This includes all immediate, indirect, intentional, unconscious and accidental methods.
- In other words, the source of knock is not from any of the characters in the mansion. This includes everyone not observed (?) to be in the mansion.
- Erika says in blue that Erika recoded the knock sound to a cassette. It was recorded in secret somewhere and was then reproduced (played?) at 12mn.
- OK as of now I'm not too sure if Dlanor is duelling Erika or is on Bern's side. I can't be sure as of this moment.
- Narratpr restates the idea of Erika that the letter was stuck to the meal cart and fallen of at the door. However this is dependent on chance, such that it could have fallen anywhere the cart was like the kitchen. It would have been done with skilled precision. Further suggestion that the knock was imagined and is not related to the letter at all.
- Lambda restates that the in red that letter was left by a person in the corridor. She adds in red that this does not include all immediate, indirect, intentional, unconscious and accidental methods. Due to this, the idea that it fell off the cart is impossible.
- Bern asks her to restate that only Erika, George, Maria, Jessica, Nanjo, Gohda and Kumasawa exist at 12mn outside the mansion. She adds that this include not being able to slip out of a window in the mansion.
- Lambda says Bern is being greedy and she's not like Beato. Lambda confirms in red that Erika, George, Maria, Jessica, Nanjo, Gohda and Kumasawa exist at 12mn outside the mansion.
- Erika suggests in blue the letter was on the ceiling and not the cart. No one would notice it because the ceiling was high enough.
- Gertrude says in red that the letter was not at the ceiling. Cordelia adds in red that the letter was not in the cart (?).
- Erika is flustered and suggests someone else not known to the residences did this and made it look like Beato did it.
- Gertrude says in red that after the start of the council, anything done by none-residents in the island are impossible.
- Erika is cracking, she mouths off something of a method outside other than the ceiling or the foor cart. Dlanor's servants put her words down. Erika freaks as to why the blue truth is invalid.
- Dlanor seems to suggest to her that since an alternate mechanism is possible for the sound, it could still be for the letter. Erika's reaching the breaking point it seems unable to find suitable reasoning for the letter. She asks more time from Bern and wants to go back to the issue of the knock.
- Erika says in blue that someone other than the residents prepared the recording of the knock.
- Lambda calls her cute and brave. She goes to Bern who I think is slowly starting to give up on her horse Erika.
- Lambda says in red that people there will not misidentify the knocking sound. They will not misidentify the sound of the knock with any sound that may be similar. This includes beating a pillar. Even if it is recorded, that is the "sound of the recording" and not the knock itself. Thus recordings are out. In other words, they will identify it as a knock if it really is the door being knocked on. They hear it absolutely and do not mistake it. Any thing that can be misunderstood as a knock on the door except actually knocking it does not exist.
- Erika is pretty much at the end of her line. Bern says in blue that it is possible for a mechanism to knock on the door. There was a automated knocking mechanism there and it could knock without actually touching this mechanism.
- Lambda says in red that the knock sound was made by a person's hand. She reiterates that they would not misidentify the knocking sound. She mentions in red that Natsuhi, Krauss and Genji are not related to the knock. The are no other people on the island. The knock was directly made bu a person's hand.
- Bern laughs and class this interesting. They essentially cackle at each other. Erika is in shambles, even Bern puts her own piece down as something you put away when it is no longer useful (?). Lambda seems to agree
- Erika panics and says she won't disappoint them. The witches ignore her and "forget" her as they laugh some more. Erika is full of shame and disappointment.
- Erika is at this point seemingly pushed to the dark wayside.
- MetaWorld scene end
Ok due to the copious amount of Red and Blue artillery both sides toss at each other, the following Red and Blue Text is only the ones used in this scene. Hell, Lambda uses an entire Red Paragraph FFS.
Spoiler for Red Text:
- After the rainfall the window has not been opened.
- Kinzo does not exist.
- Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda and Kumasawa were in the guesthouse.
- Krauss, Natsuhi and Genji are in the second floor corridor. The remaining 5 are in the dining room.
- Neither Krauss, Natsuhi or Genji touched the letter.
- The letter was there at 12mn and a person put it there.
- Neither Krauss, Natsuhi nor Genji are the source of the knock.This is not limited to an actual knock. There is also no thing that reproduces the sound, including transmissions, cassette recordings and knocking on a pillar. The sound is also not done accidentally or unconsciously.
- Cordelia confirms in red that Natsuhi, Genji and Krauss were in the second floor corridor at 12mn. Gertrude confirms in red that none of the people in the dining room nor the three being Genji, Krauss and Natsuhi knocked on the door. This includes all immediate, indirect, intentional, unconscious and accidental methods.
- In other words, the source of knock is not from any of the characters in the mansion. This includes everyone not observed (?) to be in the mansion.
- Placing of the letter, this does not include all immediate, indirect, intentional, unconscious and accidental methods.
- Erika, George, Maria, Jessica, Nanjo, Gohda and Kumasawa exist at 12mn outside the mansion.
- The letter was not at the ceiling. The letter was not in the cart (?).
- People there will not misidentify the knocking sound. They will not misidentify the sound of the knock with any sound that may be similar. This includes beating a pillar. Even if it is recorded, that is the "sound of the recording" and not the knock itself. Thus recordings are out. In other words, they will identify it as a knock if it really is the door being knocked on. They hear it absolutely and do not mistake it. Any thing that can be misunderstood as a knock on the door except actually knocking it does not exist.
- Lambda says in red that the knock sound was made by a person's hand. She reiterates that they would not misidentify the knocking sound. She mentions in red that Natsuhi, Krauss and Genji are not related to the knock. The are no other people on the island. The knock was directly made by a person's hand.
Spoiler for Blue Text:
- Krauss, Genji or Natsuhi could have placed the letter under the dining room door.
- The mansion is locked so no one utside could have come and placed the letter and pretended to have returned to the guest house and hid (?)
- Perhaps no one knocked, and hitting a mansion structure from the second floor makes a knock sound. They think someone knocked. The knock sound could have been prerecorded.
- Bern says in blue that Shannon or kanon may have been last in the line that entered and dropped the letter there.
- Bern says in blue that the letter was somewhere else before 12mn and was moved by some method to the dining room corridor.
- Erika postulates in blue that perhaps the letter stuck on the meal cart and after a while peeled off to the floor of the corridor. In other words, establishing an alibi that makes differentiates the location and time of the person from when the letter was placed there.
- The possibility of mishearing the sound as a knock.
- Erika suggests in blue the letter was on the ceiling and not the cart. No one would notice due to the height of the ceiling.
- Erika says in blue that someone other than the residents prepared the recording of the knock.
- Bern says in blue that it is possible for a mechanism to knock on the door.There was a automated knocking mechanism there and it could knock without actually touching this mechanism.
BTW Erika has some serious anger management issues.
Ok a lot more summaries. This may or may not be my last summaries for today, since I'm not sure if I'm even nearing the end.
Spoiler for Ep5 Summaries:
This is the scenes when October 6, 1986 starts, and just before the investigational meeting into Hideyoshi's murder.
October 6, 1986
- It's breakfast and of course everyone's too gloomy to enjoy any food. Erika, who is still irate, smacks the table and stands. Rudolph asks her to calm down.
- Erika mumbles to herelf while giving Battler a bad look. She's still not over the entire jumping from the third floor thing. She says in blue that due to some structuring of the wall and the presence of the ladder, Battler could have gotten out. The same may not be said for Kinzo's sake. She demands a rebuttal.
- She's pretty much psycho now, saying that she's won if Battler does not rebut. She says in blue that all this jumping down thing are fantasies. Battler crawled and climbed his way down rather than jumped down.
- She says no human could have done it then and again demands he say something.
- Battler tells her to settle down, STFU and eat her damn food.
- The Narrator says no one really saw what Battler did so they aren't getting what Erika is saying.
- Erika claims her blue truth wins and breaks down. She's mumbling to her master (Bern) to acknowledge her again.
- A sudden flash of lightning smashes thrugh Rokkenjima. Erika seems to fall down like a puppet cut from its strings. Everyone continues to eat like nothing happened.
- Apparently, during this flash of lightning I assume Bern is no longer amused by her bullshit, erases the mind of her piece (Erika) so now she's back to her jolly self before the murders occurred. Erika comments on the tablewear.
- Hours later Erika seems to be asking information about the events from everyone. It seems the survivors are weirded out by Erika's actions.
MetaWorld(?)
- Beato and her furniture discuss the events, as well as her escape and Erika's fate (?)
- They talk about fighting 100 games to understand your opponent.
- Gaap open a protal for them to where the corpses are put. The space is described to be intependent from the space-time continuum. This is said to be the other side of the chessboard.
- Here the five corpses who are cut across the upper neck are seen. Their hands are put together and they are laid properly. Gaap apparently gave them courtesy. Virgilia notices it is only 5 people not 6. She praises Beato's vigor.
- Gaap describes the status of the victims.
- Virgilia declares in red that Jessica, Maria, Rosa, Genji and George are confirmed dead as anyone can see. Beato reiterates that death was confirmed at the first view.
- Virgilia asks why Gaap hid them. Beato says the game has changed for her since the epitaph was solved. She says she's protecting Natsuhi now.
- Virgilia asks how hiding the bodies is protecting her. Gaap says it is to give an alibi to Natsuhi?
- Ronove says Natsuhi managed to leave the council that night and sleep in her room. This should be her alibi. Beato mentions the negation of Kinzo's existence. Virgilia says that Natsuhi was cornered to confess Kinzo's existence.
- Beato says she took measure to isolate Natsuhi from the horse piece? Gaap says by removing the bodies everyone has an alibi, and helps strengthen the idea of Beato's existence. This way Natsuhi can be removed as a suspect.
- Beato says something about how the peoplein the real world perceive certain death against requiring it be said in red (?). I assume this means they cannot ascertain that they are really dead with the corpses gone.
- Some exchange I don't get, eventually the topic shifts to the trap of the man from 19 years ago invented by Lambda who threatened Natsuhi. She (?) or someone hides in a closet while Krauss is taken hostage by this person, so Natsuhi cannot defy him.
- Virgilia asks if Beato can protect her. She says yes because she is no criminal.
- Natsuhi throws a teacup to the floor. Erika seems to be questioning her about her location that night. She says until she can prove she was in her room, she has no alibi. Eva can hear this and perhaps suspects Natsuhi went and killed them?
- Natsuhi responds as to why she would kill them along with her own daughter. Kyrie tells them to settle down because they are all equally suspected. They should just prove their own innocence.
- Everyone is still in a doubtful mood. Erika is still looking for proof.
- Natsuhi demands to know why she who lost her daughter be suspected. Eva wonders why she cannot endure this any longer and says all she needs is proof of her alibi. Hideyoshi tells them to stop.
- Natsuhi says when the typhoon stops and the police arrive everything will be cleared. Erika says she still has authority. Narrator describes the current state and how it'll take the next day for the boat and police to arrive.
- Nanjo says it is dangerous for her to leave the group. Eva seems to suggest that it would be proof enough if Natsuhi was killed in her room.
- Battler says he doesn't want to doubt anyone and doesn't want anyone to be sacrificed anymore.
- Natsuhi leaves for her room. Narrator recalls the events occurring to Natsuhi. It is now 1pm, time for her prmise to the mystery man.
- Apparently she did all that as an excuse to leave. She heads for the guest room closet she's supposed to hide in (?). She remembers her resolve.
- At the guestroom she wonders if it is locked. It would raise suspicion if she asked a servant to unlock it. She wants Krauss to be safe. She notices the door is unlocked, whether because Shannon forgot or the man opened it. She's fearful he's waiting inside.
- She wonders what would happen if she was killed here and what new mystery would come out of it. She wonders how she would face him if it would happen. She slowly enters the room.
- It seems empty. She checks the closet where she's supposed to hide for an hour. She hangs the guestroom keys and the chain. Inside she wonders what everyone would do if she's gone. She even wonders what would happen if they check this room.
- She sets the lock and enters the closet. It is pitch dark and she admits she needs to crack open the door to check her watch at times.
- She notices crouching there for an hour would be painful and that she's no longer young.
- So many thoughts run through her mind it's pointless to type it all. She thinks maybe a servant is helping this man.
- She's getting paranoid. She first suspects Shannon, who's been working there for 10 years. She thinks Shannon would break eventually if she was an accomplice. She says in red that (WTF) Autumn has discoursed a love if it's the case of Shannon (no idea what that means).
- She hears a clinking sound, is surprised and peers through the cracks. She sees someone who looks like Hideyoshi. She wonders why he is in this room. She wonders how he got inside with the chain lock in place, perhaps he came to assault her?
- She pleads not to be found. Some narrator text I don't get. Eventually she hears a sound of something falling.
- She wonders of the mystery man and Hideyoshi are in cahoots and planning. Or perhaps it's just chance that Hideoyoshi came here. She wonders if she should reveal herslf, but remembers Krauss life is on the line.
- She eventually hears the sound of sobbing. She thinks it is only now He's sobbing at the loss of his son. She remembers her own daughter. She feels like screaming. Flashback of the recent events. She considers herself the last actual head of the family now.
- Hideyoshi screams "Who are you?" and gets up from the bed. Natsuhi thinks he's fighting someone. She's thinking of getting out and helping him because he might die. She now weighs Hideoyoshi's life with Krauss.
- She hears blood splatter. Someone's banging at the door it seems. She hears Eva screaming for help.
- If the criminal ran away, she wonders why she was asked to hide here in the first place.
- A whole assload of Natsuhi's internal monologues.
- Eva brings everyone with her to the room. They cut the chain and enter. Eva asks that Nanjo check Hideyoshi.
- Battler wonders how this could happen in just 10 minutes. Kyrie asks if the bathroom was checked. Gohda says it is empty.
- HIDEYOSHI LIES DEAD ON THE BED WITH A STAB ON HIS BACK.
- The stab tool seems to resemble a stake IMHO. Eva is wailing.
- Shannon asks if the murderer is hiding in the house. Kyrie says the door lock is perfect. Kanon describes the door lock, meaning it would have been ocked from the inside.
- Kyrie says Hideyoshi was in a blind spot so he could not have been killed with a gun. It's now a locked room murder to them.
- Battler even suggests going through the roof panels or something.
- Erika has just arrived and seems to have an idea. She asks the situation. Kyrie describes it. Door and windows were locked. Eva wants him moved to the drawing room. Nanjo says leave it for the police but Eva wails about how George's body was taken.
- Erika asks for details and says she's in it for the mystery. Battler is peeved at this.
- The servants carry out Hideyoshi's body covered in sheets to the drawing room.
- Battler is sure the murderer has a master key. Kanon questions how it could be done with the chain lock set. He shouldn't be able to enter with the chain lock. Shannon thinks it is Beato, but wonders why since the epitaph was solved.
- Narrator notices the closet with an overcoat hanging. Before Erika can open the closet Battler stops her and they are called to the drawing room.
- Natsuhi has a cold sweat from this. She goes out the closet and room after they leave. She heads for her room.
- Before she reaches her room, Erika finds her at the lobby. Natsuhi asks her whats wrong.
- Erika points out why Natsuhi is here when her room is upstairs. She makes some excuse of coming back down.
- Erika mentions to her the guest room and her right to on-the-spot inspection. Natsuhi thinks she's trying to drag out her knowledge of being there out of her. She feigns ignorance.
- Erika says it's like the first event. Natsuhi is in her room as she claims when something happens. She says Hideyoshi was killed, Natsuhi feigns shock.
- Erika says she is suspicious because she's downstairs and apparently trying to get back to her own room (?).
- They both go to the drawing room where I think peple are again suspicious of her. Natsuhi now knows this was the mystery man's original intent. She still thinks a servant is in cahoots so she knows she can't say anything.
- Erika holds the meeting and asks that the doors be closed.
- She declares checkmate.
Edit - Ok sorry too tired to continue for today so this will be my last for the day. Exams are up this week so it'll only be maybe 1 or 1 summaries during the weekdays if I even have time.
I'm working on taking billions of screenshots, translating some of the text (+ all red and blue text), and writing summaries as I go through the game in parts.
Each part is the amount of gameplay covered in one sitting. They're probably 20 minutes apiece.
Part I Part II (This one is somewhat rambling, I apologize) Part III Part IV (In progress)
At this point I have no clue how long the game is, so maybe it'll run into 20+ parts.
...I am slow to play the game.
I don't know if this was already mentioned, if not I excuse in advance, I'm still midway to this episode and so I'm avoiding spoilers.
Anyway I've found out in the tips, if you click on Dlanor enough times, the images changes showing her with a pair of glasses. It seems to be random but has a very low probability to happen. At the very least 10 clicks are needed.
Has anyone translated the Witch's Game Record for ep5 yet? I'm curious as to what it says for those who supposedly "escaped" the island.
Spoiler for who survives:
If I remember correctly, I think all the ending scroll said was for those who were alive, they were "still alive while the game was in progress" and nothing about afterwards... it wasn't the traditional roll of "x went missing on the xth twilight"
That said...
Natsuhi, Eva, Battler, Kyrie, Rudolph, Shannon, Kanon, Kumasawa, Gohda (& Erika) all survive to the end of the game.
Considering how ambiguous the fates of those that survived are I wonder if EP 6 will shed a little light on what happened after the end of EP 5. Normally the game resets, but it's odd here because even Battler, who almost always goes missing last, gets off the island.
She has replaced Ange as my 2nd most fav character. (1st is always Battler).
Erika-chan ~~~~~
Whoa... somebody who actually LIKES Erika? O.o;
I personally don't know whether I should like her or not since I haven't played the game, but judging from the spoilers it could honestly go either way. ^^;
Ok I just reached the final section of Ep5 but before I can post my summary I need a translation of the test in the following screencap:
Spoiler for Possible Ep5 Spoiler:
The text in this screen is vital for understanding this scene so I'm refraining posting the summary until I can get someone to translate it. Anyone care to help?
Natsuhi has lost her only alibi for the period between midnight to 1 a.m.
Based upon that, she is claimed to be the culprit.
However, while the possibilities below remain, that claim cannot be decided.
- Maybe Battler, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Nanjo, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Gohda, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Kumasawa, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Genji, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe Krauss, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe someone from the mansion other than Natsuhi committed the crime?
- Maybe George and the others being murdered was actually a pretense?
- Maybe it's possible to reach the 2nd floor without going through the lounge where Erika was?
- Maybe the crime was committed before midnight?
- Maybe the crime was committed after 3 a.m.?
- Maybe the crime was committed outside the period of midnight to 1 a.m.?
- Maybe someone from the mansion committed the crime within the period from midnight to 3 a.m.?
Natsuhi has lost her only alibi for the period between midnight to 1 a.m.
Based upon that, she is claimed to be the culprit.
However, while the possibilities below remain, that claim cannot be decided.
- Maybe Battler, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Nanjo, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Gohda, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Kumasawa, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Genji, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe Krauss, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe someone from the mansion other than Natsuhi committed the crime?
- Maybe George and the others being murdered was actually a pretense?
- Maybe it's possible to reach the 2nd floor without going through the lounge where Erika was?
- Maybe the crime was committed before midnight?
- Maybe the crime was committed after 3 a.m.?
- Maybe the crime was committed outside the period of midnight to 1 a.m.?
- Maybe someone from the mansion committed the crime within the period from midnight to 3 a.m.?
Thank you and Rep to you sir. The summary of the finale of Ep5 will follow when I finish lol.
Edit - Ok my apologies but apparently this wasn't the end yet. Looks like I gots some way left but sadly it is time for sleep. I got an exam tomorrow lol.
Spoiler for Ep5 Summaries:
This is Natsuhi's Trial.
- Bern and Lambda talk things I don't understand.
- Piece Beato in her side wonders if the beginning of the end has started before even 12mn.
- In Meta Golden Land, Battler had apparently left for the game board when he was allowed (?) by Bern to participate. Virgilia is knitting while Beato is still comatose.
- Virgilia wonders about Battler attempt ate solving the mystery, even if it takes (?) 100 years. She says something about Battler's kindness.
- She adds (?) that this was essentially Beato's fault, and now her victory or defeat hinges on the two witches.
- Description of Virgilia treating Beato like her own child.
- She talks to Beato about purgatory being between heaven and hell and climbing the mountain on it. She talks about hope to accept and defeat (?) hardship. She says humans can hope to escape purgatory and reach heaven. She tells her to fly, to not be afraid to hope. She makes a comparison to Shroedinger's Cat I don't get.
- Virgilia gives a prayer to Beato.
- Rapid scene advancement to I think 12mn of the last day, October 6, 1986.
- Scene is a cathedral-like place where all the pieces and sides are assembled. Lambda assembles her pieces and asks Bern how many people are on the island.
- Bern says more than 18 people exist on the island. Beato arrives as well.
- Sides are arranges as such: Lambda is in the middle or the arch and Bern and Beato sit on balconies at the left and right (Think left and right pulpits inside a large church)
- Erika arrives and thanks Lambda for the invitation.
- Lambda declares the endgame confrontation to begin. Each character declares themselves.
- Lambda declares herself as Ruler of the Board.
- Bern declares herself Witch of Miracles, to see through the fantasy of Beatrice.
- Beato declares herself the Endless Witch, here to defend Kinzo and Natsuhi and declare her existence.
- Battler initially declines introducing himself. The Siesta says he should. He sits on a couch in front of the relatives (?).
- He remembers that it is Beato who is his opponents, but now it seems it's between Erika and this Beato piece. He wonders who is his opponent here.
- Erika declares herself detective, here to prove who the 5th game's criminal is.
- Kinzo stands and introduces himself. He says he left through the window and is on the island somewhere. Krauss declares he is confined as a hostage on the island. Eva and Rudolph declares themselves alive. Rosa, Jessica, Goerge and Maria say they died on the first evening. Natsuhi says she lives, Erika laughs as her. Hideyoshi says he died moments before this meeting. Kyrie and Nanjo declare themselves alive. Genji says he died the first evening. Kanon, Shannon, Kumasawa and Gohda declares themselves alive.
- Gaap, Virgilia, Ronove and the Stakes declare their presence as Beato's servants.
- Dlanor, Gertrude and Cornelia declare themselves Erika's servants. Erika taunts Battler that what happened in the study will not happen again this time.
- The Siestas introduce themselves. They declare 38 people are in this temple, or pretty much every person who participated in the events of Rokkenjima island.
- Bern tells Erika to begin. Erika accuses Natsuhi as the murderer.
- Against her will the Siestas drag Natsuhi to the defendant's chair.
Ok this is how it goes: This is essentially like a trial. Beato is like the lawyer for Natsuhi, Erika is like the detective and sub-prosecutor and Bern is the main. Consider Lambda the judge. The residents are like the jury/witnesses/observers depending on how you view it. Beato also says she's the true (?) criminal.
Also, this section is full of white screen pictures with text that declare certain facts. My translator cannot translate it but I can somewhat surmise what they mean based on the rest of the dialogue. Of course they are not accurate but this is the best I can do. There is a list of questions in a picture format that lists all pertinent theories that coudl explain Natsuhi's innocence. The text is blacked out one by one when they are disproven.
- Beato and Natsuhi accept the challenge. Bern restates the accusation.
- Beato states that the human (?) Beato is the true criminal.
- Lambda says if Erika wins, the witch's magic and fantasy is beaten. If Beato wins, then Beato's actions are confirmed (?).
- This is essentially Mystery VS. Anti-Magic.
- Battler comments either way, Erika doesn't seem to really lose. A mystery POV is still confirmed.
- Erika begins by declaring that for Hideyoshi's murder, everyone but Natsuhi are in the same room. Natsuhi says not having an alibi is not proof.
- Beato says as it was a secret room how could Natsuhi do it? Erika says she'll explain this room later, but states that it is impossible for anyone else to kill him. Ronove and Gaap warn it is cutting it close since Natsuhi was hiding in the closet. They recall that since they never reached the point that the police could investigate, the truths are never really confirmed.
- Beato asks that they should do this chronologically starting with the first murders. Bern objects, saying the order is insignificant. Beato objects saying Erika aims to confuse.
- Lambda sides with Beato. Battler and Virgilia talk about the fragility of truth is this place, how each side insists on their own truths.
- Erika describes Natsuhi leaving the council at about 12mn and so her alibi cannot be confirmed. A white screen picture flashes that Atlas cannot translate lol. Beato says even without an alibi it does not prove her guilt, that anyone else could have done it. Flash more pictures I cannot translate.
- Lambda says Erika should confirm alibis. Erika mentions if it is indeed questionable for the alibis of Gohda and Kumasawa in the guesthouse. Gohda says he was in the servant's room of the guesthouse. Kumasawa says she was in the anteroom. Natsuhi seems to suggest that given their alibis, they could have still done it.
- Beato says their alibis are similar to Natsuhi's. They could be doubted too. Erika confirms that, being there, they were where they say they were in the guesthouse. There is no time to kill anyone.
- Beato asks that it be repeated that there is complete evidence about Gohda and Kumasawa's alibis. Bern refuses to repeat. Beato takes her refusal as no guarantee to their alibis. Erika says it is not Dlanor's turn to state anything.
- Beato says in blue that niether Gohda nor Kumasawa have true alibis. They were in the gueshouse and can have prepetrated the crime. There is no proof this is impossible (?). Gaap says the other side needs Dlanor for red.
- Dlanor says it is not yet her turn to speak. They let Erika handle it first.
- Erika asks Kumasawa to speak. Kumasawa says she was asleep until morning. She says after dinner she spoke with Eva.
- Erika says she put brown paper seal on Kumasawa's door, and in the morning saw that the seal was still there, proving her alibi. A theory in the list is blackened out.
- Bern reiterates. She says in red that Kumasawa does not go to the second floor until the morning when she returns to the guesthouse.
- As for Gohda, Erika does the same thing. Gohda was with her until 3am when he reutrned to the servant's room. She was on the second floor at 3am and Gohda never went up. Bern says in red that Gohda does not go up to the second floor until morning when he returned to the guest house. Another thoery on the list blackens out.
- Erika mocks Beato. She claims to be a detective who surpasses a normal human. Beatrice references her 1000 years of life.
- Erika summarizes the events of finding the gold, the resulting council and the discussion of the adults with Battler in the mansion. She restates how Nanjo was talking with her, Gohda and Kumasawa's locations, and how the other children were playing cards upstairs.
- Bern states in red that George, Jessica and Maria were in their room alive at 12mn. Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda are in the ground floor. George, Maria, Jessica, Rosa and Genji are neatly killed. These theories on the list are blackened.
- Bern states in red that Krauss, Genji and Natsuhi were in the second floor corridor at 12mn. The rest are in the dining room. The guesthouse homicides have not yet happened by this point. Genji is still alive at this point. Lambda says these aren't things Erika saw. Because she wasn't there to confirm anything, Narrator surmises things such as someone sneaking out to do it etc.
- Ronove and Gaap say this reversal of fortune is similar to Battler's and Beato's old matches. Battler thinsk that the red by the managers flow freely and easily. Beato has no freedom for that because she isn't the manager. She says Bern and confirm Erika in red even if Erika is not a game manager.
- Battler says she is at a disadvantage, also that Bern shows no mercy (?).
- Beato's side are planning. She will try for Nanjo.
- Nanjo confirms he was with Erika in the lounge for a while from 1am to 3am. Bern confirms that Erika, Nanjo and Gohda were at the lounge together between 1am and 3am.
- Beato says in blue that Nanjo has no alibie before and after this time. He could have committed murder dring then.
- Erika says she was playing cards with the children before 1am, and went down to the first floor. Nanjo confirms that they talked in the library before moving to the lounge. Bern confirms in red that Erika was with Nanjo after 12mn until 3am.
- Erika explains meeting Rosa at about 1am when she returned to the second floor. At 3am Battler arrives and they disperse to their rooms. Erika seals their doors and sees that in the morning when Battler screams, Nanjo's door was unopened. His alibi before 1am and after 3am is sealed.
- Bern says in red that the Seals are perfect. Nanjo has an alibi with Erika until 3am. He does not leave after 3am.
- Erika states that everyone in the guesthouse now has an alibi. Beato has a look of desperation. Lambda has no objections.
- Battler objects and says he is not accounted for. He arrived at the room where the vitims were. The Siestas whip him saying his turn isn't up.
- On that idea, Beato will take on the issue of Battler. She says at 3am he arrived, went up and slept. It is not known whether he visisted the victim's room. She says unless you could hear him sleeping you can't confirm it.
- Erika apparently says she did? She says he's not a criminal. She says he slept until morning not knowing of the events and was the firstto discover them. Beato insists she has no proof.
- Battler says Erika should have returned to her room. Virgilia asks where Erika's room is anyway. She says her room is next door to the victim's room and there is but a thin wall. She says she put her ear to the wall and heard nothing suspicious.
- WTF? Erika seems to claim she tried to listen in on that room the entire night/morning! Bern seems to congratulate her piece?
- Lambda reconfirms Erika detective authority. She says in red that Battler returned to the room at 3am and went straight to sleep. He noticed nothing in the room (because it was dark? (?). Battler could not have been the murderer.
- Beato is at a loss now that their alibis are confirmed. Who could have done this if they were alive at 12mn? They would have died between 12mn and 3am. It would not have happened after 3am. More theories on the list are struck out.
- Beato and her servants know they'll have to construct a possibility occuring before 3am.
- Battler says Erika was there at 3am and no one would be able to get to the second floor without passing them, unless they used some other means. The window is suggested.
- Erika declares you need to pass her at the loung to get to the 2nd floor.
- Beato says in blue that a ladder was used outside to enter through a window on the second floor. This was you bypass the lounge and get to the room without being seen.
- Erika says they assumed she'd try this. She says no blind spots, shields or psychological blocks exist. Bern says in red that there is no way to get to the second floor of the guesthouse passing the lounge without being seen.
- Erika ennumerates the various ways you could have climbed up but says this is impossible. Beato asks why then.
- Erika says it was constructed so that you can't get in from the outside through the windows (?). Lambda asks if she sealed the windows too. She says yes.
- Battler is agitated by her abilities. Virgilia says because she is Bern's piece.
- Apparently Erika went outside and sealed the windows and any sort of entry. Natsuhi glares and asks how a guest could even do this. Erika says she's skilled enough to memorize these things when she sees them and prepared.
- Bern compliments her?
- Lambda admits to Bern. Lambda says in red that it is impossible to get to the second floor of the guesthouse without passing through the lounge, it is impossible not to have been noticed by Erika.
- Erika says in blue that the murder window is limited to between 12mn and 1pm.
- Beato is struck by blue. Erika says she was again with Nanjo in the library until 1am and sacrastically says it was a mistake on her part.
- Erika again says only Natsuhi has no alibi for this time. More theories are blackened.
- Beato and her crew are now backed into a smaller corner.
- Erika restates that at 12mn Krauss, Natsuhi and Genji were in the second floor corridor while the rest were in the dining room. Bern reconfirms this. The letter was on the floor at this time and the discussion ended at 1am.
- Bern says in red that no one left the dining room until 1am. More theories are blackened.
- Bern says in red that the red truth is completely true and no evidence, proof and room for argument is necessary.
- Erika now turns to the ones in the second floor corridor. Bern says in red that Genji went to the anteroom to use the phone and remained there.
- Erika continues that at 1am Rosa returned to the guesthouse. Eva is questioned and says that she then went to the anteroom which she also sealed in a way similar to Erika. This seal was not broken between 1am and the morning. Kumasawa and Kanon confirm the seal was still there.
- Bern says in red that the anteroom was sealed by Eva at 1am and was broken by Kumasawa and Kanon in the morning. It was Rosa and Eva who first left the dining room at 1am. Until she returned to the dining room everyone stayed inside. Eva went to the anteroom after seeing off Rosa and sealed it.
- Erika spouts of some of her knowledge. Aluminum fingerprinting, adhesion reactions of shoeprints and water. Blah Blah Blah.
- It is declared that Genji did not leave the residence ater 12mn.
- Lambda says only Krauss anf Natsuhi remain. Natsuhi is completely stunned. Bern mocks her toconfess which she naturally denies. She and Beato knows checkmate is coming.
- Battler is aghast., Virgilia says the truth is being spun around. Battler seems forced to question Krauss. Virgilia says something about which of the 2 sides of truth to believe. Battler wants to believe they are innocent. He calls this a cock-and-bull trial and wants to believe in Natsuhi. He wants a truth more correct than what Erika has.
- Virgilia asks if he will still not believe even if the red identifies her. He cannot answer. He makes some rather ridiculous excuses to stick to Natsuhi. Battler recalls how he used to believe in certain things because it was constantly repeated to him. He questions if "belief" is good enough. He will believe if no one else does. He says in questionable red that Ushiromiya Natsuhi his no criminal.
- Bern suggests a plea. Lambda asks if Beato accepts. Narrator talks about how Krauss' status is like Schroedinger's Cat. Natsuhi says her husband is innocent. She says they can sneer and mock her all they want but do not drag Krauss in all this. Bern takes tis as a plea refusal. She says if she loses she will disappear.
- Beato's servants suggest a compromise involving a next game so she won't diappear. They say she shouldn't throw it all away here. Gaap seems furious. Beato will not desert her. Tey will refuse using the Krauss theory. More theories are thrown out.
- They are down to one last.
- Bern shockingly says in red that Krauss is not a criminal. He is dead. He was killed right after she heard him on the phone. Natsuhi wails at this revelation.
- Lambda says it ends now. Everything has been accounted for. All theories on the list are blacked out.
- Lambda declares that at 12mn of October 4, 1986, Natsuhi kills George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa and Genji before 1am. She also kills Krauss. Before 1am, she kills these 6 people. This was doe between 12mn and 1am and only Natsuhi has no alibi for it.
- Labda declares Beato's existence denied!
- Beato screams she will stick to Natsuhi's innocence and that she is the true murderer. Natsuhi wails about her status or something. Screen goes black and white.
- Some narrator text about the concept of truth and how it seems to change (?) depending on how many people believe. Bern says she will use the red to finish this.
- Bern says Natsuhi will not earn Kinzo's forgiveness (?). The world of Kinzo and the gold eagle in her (?) is a delusion. The true Kinzo in her heart was not really there (?). She did not trust from the bottom of her heart. Kinzo and the gold eagle do not exist in her (?). I other words I think this red truth says that her idea of Kinzo and being a successor to the golden wing eagle was just a delusion.
- Kinzo stands and says Natsuhi is a true heir and she should not doubt this. Bern is irate and tries to erase him. He refuses to disappear.
- Bern says in red that the true Kinzo does not mean what is said. Disappear. This is a convenient delusion of Kinzo by Natsuhi.
- Kinzo is obliterated by the red.
- The narrator says that this Kinzo was a construct of Natsuhi's mind.
- Bern says Natsuhi is a pitiful woman. She should look at the real Kinxo instead (?).
- Beato and Natsuhi's cried echo through the cathedral. Natsuhi flashbacks on her days as an Ushiromiya. Her memories are struck down by Bern's red.
- Lambda and Bern trump victory. Thus the "truth" is revealed.
- Super long MetaWorld scene end.
Spoiler for Natsuhi's Trial Red Truth:
- Kumasawa does not go to the second floor until the morning when she returns to the guesthouse.
- Gohda does not go up to the second floor until morning when he returned to the guest house.
- Krauss, Genji and Natsuhi were in the second floor corridor at 12mn. The rest are in the dining room. The guesthouse homicides have not yet happened by this point. Genji is still alive at this point.
- Erika, Nanjo and Gohda were at the lounge together between 1am and 3am.
- Erika was with Nanjo after 12mn until 3am.
- Seals are perfect. Nanjo has an alibi with Erika until 3am. He does not leave after 3am.
- Battler returned to the room at 3am and went straight to sleep. He noticed nothing in the room (because it was dark? (?). Battler could not have been the murderer.
- There is no way to get to the second floor of the guesthouse passing the lounge without being seen.
- It is impossible to get to the second floor of the guesthouse without passing through the lounge, it is impossible not to have been noticed by Erika.
- No one left the dining room until 1am.
- The red truth is completely true and no evidence, proof and room for argument is necessary.
- Genji went to the anteroom to use the phone and remained there.
- The anteroom was sealed by Eva at 1am and was broken by Kumasawa and Kanon in the morning. It was Rosa and Eva who first left the dining room at 1am. Until she returned to the dining room everyone stayed inside. Eva went to the anteroom after seeing off Rosa and sealed it.
- Genji did not leave the residence ater 12mn.
- Ushiromiya Natsuhi his no criminal. (By Battler and highly questionable).
- Krauss is not a criminal. He is dead. He was killed right after she heard him on the phone.
- Natsuhi will not earn Kinzo's forgiveness (?). The world of Kinzo and the gold eagle in her (?) is a delusion. The true Kinzo in her heart was not really there (?). She did not trust from the bottom of her heart. Kinzo and the gold eagle do not exist in her (?). I other words I think this red truth says that her idea of Kinzo and being a successor to the golden wing eagle was just a delusion.
- The true Kinzo does not mean what is said. Disappear. This is a convenient delusion of Kinzo by Natsuhi.
Spoiler for Natsuhi's Trial Blue Truth:
- Gohda and Kumasawa do not have true alibis.They were in the gueshouse and can have prepetrated the crime. There is no proof this is impossible (?).
- Nanjo has no alibie before and after this time. He could have committed murder during then.
- A ladder was used outside to enter through a window on the second floor. This was you bypass the lounge and get to the room without being seen.
- Erika: The murder window is limited to between 12mn and 1pm.
Spoiler for Theory Shot and urusai's translation.:
By urusai:
Natsuhi has lost her only alibi for the period between midnight to 1 a.m.
Based upon that, she is claimed to be the culprit.
However, while the possibilities below remain, that claim cannot be decided.
- Maybe Battler, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Nanjo, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Gohda, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Kumasawa, who was at the guesthouse, committed the crime?
- Maybe Genji, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe Krauss, who was at the mansion, committed the crime?
- Maybe someone from the mansion other than Natsuhi committed the crime?
- Maybe George and the others being murdered was actually a pretense?
- Maybe it's possible to reach the 2nd floor without going through the lounge where Erika was?
- Maybe the crime was committed before midnight?
- Maybe the crime was committed after 3 a.m.?
- Maybe the crime was committed outside the period of midnight to 1 a.m.?
- Maybe someone from the mansion committed the crime within the period from midnight to 3 a.m.?
And now I'm too fucking tired lol. More to come some other day when I am able.
Ok I just reached the final section of Ep5 but before I can post my summary I need a translation of the test in the following screencap:
Spoiler for Possible Ep5 Spoiler:
The text in this screen is vital for understanding this scene so I'm refraining posting the summary until I can get someone to translate it. Anyone care to help?
Here's another attempt at the translation that I did back when I was reading episode 5.
It's basically the same as urusai's except for the eighth bulleted item.
Spoiler for How I translated the image back when I was reading episode 5:
The assumption is that Natsuhi does not have an alibi between midnight and 1am.
On those grounds, it is insisted that she is the culprit.
However, that cannot be concluded as long as there are the following possibilities:
Is the crime impossible for Battler in the guesthouse?
Is the crime impossible for Nanjo in the guesthouse?
Is the crime impossible for Gohda in the guesthouse?
Is the crime impossible for Kumasawa in the guesthouse?
Is the crime impossible for Genji in the residence?
Is the crime impossible for Krauss in the residence?
Is the crime impossible for the people in the residence except Natsuhi?
What about the possibility that the people with George actually pretended to have been killed?
What about the possibility of arriving at the second floor without passing Erika in the lounge?
What about the possibility that the crime was done before midnight?
What about the possibility that the crime was done after 3am?
What about the possibility of doing the crime at a time other than between midnight and 1am?
What about the possibility that someone in the residence did the crime between midnight and 3am?
Can someone respond with a perfect translation of this image please?