Tales of Vesperia Game Discussion

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by Asamidori

I think that inconsistancy actually happens quite often in the EN version? I remember people complaining about other times when things like that happens...

The likely thing is they recorded the clip, then changed the translation later but didn't re-record

[RWBladewing]

Originally Posted by Asamidori

I think that inconsistancy actually happens quite often in the EN version? I remember people complaining about other times when things like that happens...

I do remember one other instance where a character's voiced line was completely different than what it said in the speech bubble but sadly I have no idea when or where it was. There were also a couple times where one character's lines were just randomly not voiced in the middle of a voiced scene. The thing that kinda got me though was the relatively large number of grammatical errors and typos. Some were pretty obvious and should have been easy to catch. It's not really a big deal but I tend to be nit-picky with that kind of thing.

None of the errors in this game even come close to Wild Arms 4 though, in which they made it literally impossible to achieve 100% completion by removing a monster from the game but not from the monster manual, and completely cut out the first letter of the main character's special attack, turning "Phantom Line" into "hantom Line". The latter error was pretty much the only thing I found entertaining about that game.

[krisslanza]

There was a few scenes that deserved voicing that weren't voiced (the most noteworthy is when you run into Barbos in Dahngrest. That whole first 'half' isn't voiced but suddenly the second is!) but that's just being nitpicky.

The seducing the guard scenes should've also sooooo been voiced.

[Asamidori]

Originally Posted by RWBladewing

There were also a couple times where one character's lines were just randomly not voiced in the middle of a voiced scene.

That's actually some kinda bug I think. Any lines within a voiced scene can suffer from that and there's not much pattern as to when it happens. I get them once or twice in the JP version too, and I heard people say the line got voiced after they reload the game or something.

[yongshun]

Anyone know of an easier way to get Yager's secert mission? cause using Raven's Rain Artes just isnt working for me.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Asamidori

I think that inconsistancy actually happens quite often in the EN version? I remember people complaining about other times when things like that happens...

Well it doesn't really bother me a whole lot- Both of them are cool names, and they practically mean the same thing.

Originally Posted by Asamidori

That's actually some kinda bug I think. Any lines within a voiced scene can suffer from that and there's not much pattern as to when it happens. I get them once or twice in the JP version too, and I heard people say the line got voiced after they reload the game or something.

Actually, when that happened to me, I just thought I hit the 'A' button too fast and the system skipped the voicing.

Originally Posted by yongshun

Anyone know of an easier way to get Yager's secert mission? cause using Raven's Rain Artes just isnt working for me.

There is one, but you might not like it.

What I did was to switch to easy mode, and have only Raven go into OL (Lv1) mode and spam rain... During the 2nd part of the fight of course.

In Easy mode, Rain alone should be enough to break his guard. However, you should also set your party to defend, otherwise they would flatten Yeager in easy mode. But still, this is quite a gamble- I remember getting the SM with my very last Rain shot that killed him

[yongshun]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

There is one, but you might not like it.

What I did was to switch to easy mode, and have only Raven go into OL (Lv1) mode and spam rain... During the 2nd part of the fight of course.

In Easy mode, Rain alone should be enough to break his guard. However, you should also set your party to defend, otherwise they would flatten Yeager in easy mode. But still, this is quite a gamble- I remember getting the SM with my very last Rain shot that killed him

Thanks going to have to try that. This SM is ANNOYING and a test of my patience. That and this is my second play through so most of my party have weapons that does pretty good damage and kill boss and mobs way to quickly.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by yongshun

Thanks going to have to try that. This SM is ANNOYING and a test of my patience. That and this is my second play through so most of my party have weapons that does pretty good damage and kill boss and mobs way to quickly.

No problem it worked when I use it the first time after failing 7-8 times on hard


EDIT:


A question guys, does anyone have, or knows where to find, the little image of the characters flashed during their mystic artes? Those would make excellent sigs

[Asamidori]

Playing on Normal during my speed run, about 20 levels lower than Yeager so I shouldn't be THAT overpowered...

Second half of the battle, set everyone to guard (make a strategy for it) and shortcut Raven's Rain. Control Yuri, go into OL, then Destruction Field him 6 times. If you hear him goes "argh" and bends over, go for the shortcut where Rain's registered. If all goes well, you should get it right away.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

A question guys, does anyone have, or knows where to find, the little image of the characters flashed during their mystic artes? Those would make excellent sigs

No one's been able to rip anything from the game disc yet (blame(?) MS for having some crazy protection to their 360 games or whatnot). Shin did take screenies of the in-game stuffs though, so maybe if you can track him down somehow, you can ask him to take the pictures for you. (Oh, Shin = Shinryu.)

[serenade_beta]

Don't have the Box... So the only thing I can do is watch the play movies...
Either way, just started... Came from Ratatosk.

The OP's song is considerably wonderful. Animation is nice too... Just that the song and animation doesn't really synchronize all that much...

And the anime! Really refreshing, since Ratatosk had zero of that.
Though I find the normal field avatars/movement a bit awkward. Too smooth? I guess it's just the quality difference between Ratatosk and Vesperia.

Though I do wish there was more scenes done with voice acting.

What is with the dog's design... Looks like he could talk at anytime.

Why did the rock knock out the guards...?!

Anyways, anyways, I guess I'll put my hopes up for this game. People are saying the story/characters are godly, so I guess it will be good. (Strange how I feel doubtful instead, when people call it godly)

Ah! Thread necromancy... *sneaks off*

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Don't have the Box... So the only thing I can do is watch the play movies...
Either way, just started... Came from Ratatosk.

The OP's song is considerably wonderful. Animation is nice too... Just that the song and animation doesn't really synchronize all that much...

And the anime! Really refreshing, since Ratatosk had zero of that.
Though I find the normal field avatars/movement a bit awkward. Too smooth? I guess it's just the quality difference between Ratatosk and Vesperia.

Though I do wish there was more scenes done with voice acting.

What is with the dog's design... Looks like he could talk at anytime.

Why did the rock knock out the guards...?!

Anyways, anyways, I guess I'll put my hopes up for this game. People are saying the story/characters are godly, so I guess it will be good. (Strange how I feel doubtful instead, when people call it godly)

Ah! Thread necromancy... *sneaks off*

If you speak to one of the guards he'll comment that the armor they wear is actually very thin

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

If you speak to one of the guards he'll comment that the armor they wear is actually very thin

Lol, I didn't get that

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Don't have the Box... So the only thing I can do is watch the play movies...

THat's how it is for me when it comes to Ratatosk

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

The OP's song is considerably wonderful. Animation is nice too... Just that the song and animation doesn't really synchronize all that much...

Agreed, out of the tales games' OP that I've sampled so far, Vesperia's "Ring a Bell" is still my prefered choice.

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

What is with the dog's design... Looks like he could talk at anytime.

*cough* Ninja-Dog *cough*

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Anyways, anyways, I guess I'll put my hopes up for this game. People are saying the story/characters are godly, so I guess it will be good. (Strange how I feel doubtful instead, when people call it godly)

'Godly' might be a tad bit extremely

But it is a solid piece of work, at least in my opinion.

But what would I know? I'm the new guy

[frubam]

Originally Posted by serebe

Anyways, anyways, I guess I'll put my hopes up for this game. People are saying the story/characters are godly, so I guess it will be good. (Strange how I feel doubtful instead, when people call it godly)

It's by no means "godly". It prob has one of the best set of heroes from any eng Tales, and the battle system is the best(and the most brokeness) of the Tales.

The story, however, is mediocre. Not bad, but probably not one of the memorable ones. Plus, there're quite a few plot holes.

[Saki_chan]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

The OP's song is considerably wonderful. Animation is nice too... Just that the song and animation doesn't really synchronize all that much...

Yeah, it's definitely a good one, but I prefer the Tales of the Abyss OP, both the animation and the song. But obviously, you can see my sig comes from the Vesperia OP, so I still think it's awesome.

What is with the dog's design... Looks like he could talk at anytime.

Haha, I know. Repede rocks.

It's by no means "godly". It prob has one of the best set of heroes from any eng Tales, and the battle system is the best(and the most brokeness) of the Tales.

The story, however, is mediocre. Not bad, but probably not one of the memorable ones. Plus, there're quite a few plot holes.

I know what you mean. I love the characters to death, but I automatically tune out once Rita starts talking about blastia, so I only ever have half an idea of what the technical aspects of the plot are. Plus,

Spoiler:

there isn't really a good, strong villain. There was Alexei, and don't spoil me if he or someone else shows up after the elemental spirits because I don't know, but otherwise, there's pretty much no villain in the game. Which kind of works, but is also awkward.

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Saki_chan

I know what you mean. I love the characters to death, but I automatically tune out once Rita starts talking about blastia, so I only ever have half an idea of what the technical aspects of the plot are. Plus,

Spoiler:

there isn't really a good, strong villain. There was Alexei, and don't spoil me if he or someone else shows up after the elemental spirits because I don't know, but otherwise, there's pretty much no villain in the game. Which kind of works, but is also awkward.

Yeah, Vesperia has some of the worst bosses in US Tales history(perhaps barring Schwann. His in-battle dialogue when you fight him is TOO good). TotA and ToS2 comes with some great villians that you can actually relate to.

[Chaos2Frozen]

^

Spoiler:

Outside of Schwann, the only other villian that's most memorable is Yeager. Lets face it, the man got style and he's certainly an entertainer



Alexis, while dull and straight forward, has one very memorable point too!


Player: I think we're winning!

Alexis: Senharan Seijin!

*Defeated*

[Saki_chan]

Originally Posted by frubam

Yeah, Vesperia has some of the worst bosses in US Tales history(perhaps barring Schwann. His in-battle dialogue when you fight him is TOO good).

Ooh, yeah, that was a great fight, wasn't it?

Spoiler:

If I'm being honest, I have to admit that it took me a while to realize that he was actually Raven, but once I did...o_O)

Spoiler:

Alexis, while dull and straight forward, has one very memorable point too!


Player: I think we're winning!

Alexis: Senharan Seijin!

*Defeated*

Spoiler:

God that was infuriating! I wanted to kill him every time he did that.

...Which I did, obviously.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Saki_chan

Spoiler:

God that was infuriating! I wanted to kill him every time he did that.

...Which I did, obviously.

Maaahh~ I feel that most of bosses/villains for Vesperia will be remembered more for their Mystic Artes than for the role they play

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

^

Spoiler:

Outside of Schwann, the only other villian that's most memorable is Yeager. Lets face it, the man got style and he's certainly an entertainer

Spoiler for ch 2:

Ahh yeah, I forgot about Yeager and his 2 pups. He was a good boss two, he should have been around until the end. I really wished they expounded on the Casey/Yeager/Raven triangle and/or the Casey/Droite/Gauche relationship or have a picture of Casey somewhere..

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by frubam

Spoiler for ch 2:

Ahh yeah, I forgot about Yeager and his 2 pups. He was a good boss two, he should have been around until the end. I really wished they expounded on the Casey/Yeager/Raven triangle and/or the Casey/Droite/Gauche relationship or have a picture of Casey somewhere..

Spoiler:

Oh yeah, that love triangle, haha!


"What's this? A lady from the old man's past ?"

"A tale of unrequited love perhaps ?"

"Ooh, is this a tale of lost love? Or maybe a little jealousy ?"


I don't think Casey has a connection to Droite and Gauche though, their boss fight after scene sounds like they're looking for it only because of Yeager.