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estimated palestinian deaths between 1987-2005 (couldnt find more data for later years) 4743 (militants as well as civilians) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...282001-2003.29 estimated Afghani killed by coalition forces alone between 2000-present 8,436 - 28,028 (civilians only) should be noted that afganistan is MUCH larger and less crowded then gaza (one of the most crowded places on earth) and it is far from the US or any other nato countries (as opposed to gaza which is bordered with israel) should also be noted that the refugee camps are in place for over 60 years because none of the arab countries to which the refugees fled have absorbed them into their general populace (as is usually the case) and that efforts by the israeli goverment to improve the living conditions in the refugee camps in its controlled territories has been met by UN resolutions forbidding such actions (Resolution 32/90)
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2009-09-08, 07:33 | Link #3842 | |
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more people die in NATO and US ops then israeli ones israel just gets more bad press because it pays to badmouth it back on topic http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8244065.stm Quote:
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its better then trying to hide it in your shoe but this is a bad development for the air travel industry (at the point in time where they dont need any more trouble) and kinda makes me wonder if some of the latest plane crashes are really accidents (there have been alot of them lately, its almost scary)
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2009-09-08, 09:29 | Link #3844 |
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On the Arab-Israeli conflict, I have said this before, and it bears repeating: the demographics do not favour the Jews.
Beyond the hot air from both sides, I don't see any other solution besides a compromise, and a hard one on that. A proper Palestine state in exchange for the renunciation of the right to return sounds fair to me, for starters. The call for the destruction of Israel must go, in exchange for aid to Palestine.
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2009-09-08, 09:45 | Link #3845 |
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Oh, the old issue of "face", and not wishing to appear weak, so they can remain in office and stuff more money in their pockets before it's time to go.
The peoples on both sides must decide for themselves what future they want. The future is not looking good for both sides.
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2009-09-08, 18:27 | Link #3847 | |
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For those of you who watch Gundam 00, forget the Sri Lankan conflict. This is the conflict which could last 300 years into the future.
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2009-09-08, 19:00 | Link #3848 |
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Envoy: US open to talks with NKorea
It seems that the United States will continue pushing for six-party talks as opposed to the idea of bilateral negotiations between the two nations as that the US sees other members of the six-party talks as important. Founder of religion slapped with penalty tax demand Objects of worship tend to have a wide range of meanings. |
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2009-09-08, 19:33 | Link #3851 | |
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You're probably better off making Jerusalem, in this case, a pure tourist/religious site, and not allow any permanent residents of any religion. Caretakers are rotated through the site without preference, on a set schedule, and on an one-time only basis to stop hereditary passing of the "honor". Take "religion" off the table right from the start as a reason for sticking to wanting Jerusalem as your capital, and try to go from there. Religion is a hot topic, esp. for the West, IMHO, unfortunately.
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2009-09-08, 20:12 | Link #3853 |
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You want to nuke this beautiful landscape? The fact that Jerusalem was the land of paradise in the Xenosaga series and that I am a Xenosaga fan just means I don't agree with this idea at all. Certainly true that it appears the majority of military conflicts in the world right now are mainly religious ones, even though most people denies this fact. |
2009-09-09, 00:54 | Link #3855 |
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Nazi deserter hails long-awaited triumph
Nazi deserter hails long-awaited triumph
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So here's a deal for the Security Council here. Build the new UN here. Jerusalem would be then international property, given the size of the estimated buffer zone, and no one can strike it. Then we can do the above.
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Actually I do agree with zhanquan here, there isn't much option left. The Israelis can keep their Sayaret Maktal and Mossad but they still need to let the Palestine people have their share of the Gaza. But if Israel is going to keep Shin Bet running and keeping tabs on the new Palestine, I am totally for it. Not all the fighters are fighting to free Palestine, some are just fighting for "religious justice" which is just another excuse for their greed in making the Mideast the way the want it. World War 3 will then start between the "true inheritors of the world" and the rest of the world, culminating in a zero-sum game with a scorched earth policy. By then not even post-mortal slayers can save the world, if they even can in the first place. Quote:
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Chinese Premier Wen hopes to meet Hatoyama soon
The improvement of bilateral ties between Japan and China will proven to be effective against North Korea's nuclear ambitions as that China and North Korea isn't getting along very well. The fact that Yukio Hatoyama had made Okada Katsuya as the new foreign minister indicates that the new government of Japan intends to make better ties with China and South Korea while seeking a review to the Japan-US relations. If China is like the Cyriltian Kingdom, this is actually a very good thing but of course, this is not the case. Nonetheless, the DPJ government intends to meet China before the United States marking a significant "change" in national security and foreign policy. Although Yukio Hatoyama intends to make his "yuai" policy into reality but there seems be quite a lot of difficulties due to a spate of serious issues. His concept and ideal is very good but it doesn't change the fact that there are many problems without suitable solutions. ---- The best option available but will Israel agree to it? After all, Jerusalem is an ancient city of Israel in which it has ancient ruins and also a beautiful landscape. However, by making the city open to everyone, I am sure the Islamic community would be happy as that Jerusalem is the birthplace of multiple religions. Last edited by Shadow Kira01; 2009-09-09 at 12:47. |
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You're bound to have a lot of trouble here. There are ONLY 3 city-states in existence (Vatican, Monaco and Singapore) , with 2 other pseudo-city-states. (HK, Macau) And only 4 models. 1. Vatican City model. Who's going to be the parent state (i.e. Italy for the Vatican)? The UN? Israel? Palestian National Authority? A third nation? 2. Monaco model. Ok, that's possible. I give that to you. But, who's going to provide defenses? The UN? If not, who? 3. The HK model. This just compounds the two problems above together. 4. Singapore model Now that's WORSE. No LKY. No David Marshall. How now? (Even though the geo-political situations are almost the same) So, really, when we say city-state, which are we looking at?
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