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Whedon the Snarker · 2017-12-22, 20:14

I have an idea that's inspired from the Migration Period during the Late Antiquity.

Some times after the Mariage Incident, the border worlds of the Time-Space Administrative Bureau are greeted by flotilla of ships. Ships filled with refugees. The refugees tell stories on how their worlds are ransacked by some fleet of warships and they had to evacuate from them.

At first, the Bureau gladly accept the refugees. However, as more and more ships come, the Bureau finds itself overwhelm and finally had to refuse them until they can reorganize to handle the problems better.

Thing is, situation is heating up at both inside and outside. Inside, the settled refugees had to compete with the locals and thus offered to work with lower wages. This caused strife between the locals and the refugees. There are also some culture clashes. Outside, the refused refugees grow impatient and start to become violent.

In the end, the Bureau finds itself need to handle many problems; the refugees inside the border and the local population are clashing with each other, the refugees outside the border threaten to forcefully enter the Administrative Worlds, chaos in both military and administration due to the problems, and the same fleet that ransacked the homes of the refugees are sailing closer to the TSAB.

Thought?

vic-vic · 2017-12-23, 04:42

I like the idea: it would a great deal to show how just logistic can provide an enermous challenge. Not to say, it's a problem where our heroes just can't rely on their pew-pew beams, without wrecking their owm morals.

And there is a mysterious fleet...

Whedon the Snarker · 2017-12-23, 10:46

Alright. I have made three protagonists from the refugees. I plan that they will be the ones who interact with MGLN characters the most.

Alaric: The young king of the Gethic. Alaric and his people came from the small Gethic Kingdom consisted of half a dozen planets. However, the Gethic had to abandon their planets after the mysterious fleet arrived, destroyed most of their navy, ransacked their planets, and enslaved many of their kin.

During their journey to the TSAB, his father was killed when the Gethic clashed with other refugees. Being the sole heir, Alaric inherited the throne. His ambition is to make sure his people could once again have the lives that the mysterious fleet took from them.

Theodora Aurelius: An officer of the Lexians. Theodora is one of the few surviving officers that managed to escape from the mysterious fleet alongside a small percentage of the population of Lexia. The majority of Lexians are enslaved by the mysterious fleet.

Lexians are among the first refugees that the TSAB allowed to enter the border. With the rising tension between the locals and the refugees, Theodora had to ensure her people manage to survive through the turmoils.

Dee Jay: An aide of an officer of the Anarchians, though later become the liaison between the Anarchians and the TSAB thanks to being fluent in both languages without the aid of translator.

Dee Jay, like many Anarchians, is one heck of pragmatist. He once suggested sacking a city after the local government only give them a fraction of food that they need. This doesn't come true after said government finally give them the amount of food that they need.

The characters most of the time represent their respective alignments; lawful (Theodora), neutral (Alaric), and chaotic (Dee). Whether their actions are good or bad depend on who judge them.

Thought?

4th Dimension · 2017-12-23, 17:25

Scale? You are talking cities, planets etc? How many people are we talking about?

It really can't be the ENTIRE population of a world because simply you can't WALK away from a world. You likely either need ships or LOADS of mages with a knack for travelling to transfer the entire population. And you likely don't have the first.

You might be hammering the historical parallel WAAAAAYYY too closely, with names and whatnot. And after all, despite all possible corruption, TSAB is HIGHLY unlikely to bungle the refugee crysis as much as Romans did, what with ratcheting up the prices of food for their own gain to the point where Goths had to sell their own children into slavery.

Secondly, if it's a reasonable amount of cargo ships that SOMEHOW escaped in time with some of the population, that shouldn't be that hard to solve given that TSAB is doing ongoing colonization efforts. So SPACE per say should not be the issue nor the tension with the locals when you can drop them on the other side of planet.
On the other hand that colonization effort is likely to be a rush job and kinda a shit show, but then again given the possible crazy situations with LL that they might have gotten in before, I'm would not be surprised to learn they have protocols for migrating large amounts of people to a new world. And any problem there is largely down to time, not down to TSAB not being able to do it.

Whedon the Snarker · 2017-12-23, 17:52

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Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

Scale? You are talking cities, planets etc? How many people are we talking about?

It really can't be the ENTIRE population of a world because simply you can't WALK away from a world. You likely either need ships or LOADS of mages with a knack for travelling to transfer the entire population. And you likely don't have the first.

You might be hammering the historical parallel WAAAAAYYY too closely, with names and whatnot. And after all, despite all possible corruption, TSAB is HIGHLY unlikely to bungle the refugee crysis as much as Romans did, what with ratcheting up the prices of food for their own gain to the point where Goths had to sell their own children into slavery.

Secondly, if it's a reasonable amount of cargo ships that SOMEHOW escaped in time with some of the population, that shouldn't be that hard to solve given that TSAB is doing ongoing colonization efforts. So SPACE per say should not be the issue nor the tension with the locals when you can drop them on the other side of planet.
On the other hand that colonization effort is likely to be a rush job and kinda a shit show, but then again given the possible crazy situations with LL that they might have gotten in before, I'm would not be surprised to learn they have protocols for migrating large amounts of people to a new world. And any problem there is largely down to time, not down to TSAB not being able to do it.

At the most several millions people. I based the refugees fleets and the mysterious fleet on the Migrant Fleet from Mass Effect.

And yes, it's not the entire population. The rest of the population are either die or being forced to join the mysterious fleet. The refugees used almost all kind of ship, not only transport ships, but also warships and cargo ships to evacuate from their homes, and that's still not enough for most of their population.

I admit I am not creative when it comes to names and very likely would based them on cultures on Earth. Like they said, write what you know. Also, considering how the situation in Europe with the influx of refugees from Africa and Middle East, there's still a possibility for the TSAB to face problems in dealing with refugees.

Indeed. It's not that the TSAB is not being able to do it, bur rather the time. However, the refugees are growing impatient with how long the TSAB is going to make them wait.

There's also the problems that the refugees bring to the locals, whether deliberately or not. Some of the cultures clashes caused rather severe damage, competition between the refugees and the locals in taking the available jobs, some of the refugees are not nice people and the locals blame the whole of them, administrative chaos, and more.

Basically, can the TSAB solved the refugee crisis? Yes. Can they do that without causing an incident? No.

Rising Dragon · 2017-12-23, 21:10

One thing to keep in mind is that on Mid-childa itself, the planet is not full settled. There's still a lot of frontier to colonize.

Whedon the Snarker · 2017-12-24, 04:23

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

One thing to keep in mind is that on Mid-childa itself, the planet is not full settled. There's still a lot of frontier to colonize.

Yeah, but obviously you can't just can grab some refugees, put them in an empty place, and call it a day.

You need to make sure the refugees are protected from exposure, have access to food and water, good sanitation, etc.

vic-vic · 2017-12-24, 12:44

Indeed, and that's why it's called logistic nightmare. But at least, refugees have their own ships to move.

Still ,creating a new settlements and all necessary infrastructure would require an uttery hideous amount of funds and materials. And THIS can be a primary reason for the conflict

DKN117 · 2018-10-24, 17:44

So, I've come up with a couple of StrikerS story ideas that I'm too busy to write and (more importantly) don't believe I could write well, and I'm putting them up for 'adoption' here if anybody wants to try either of them.

First is a kinda basic idea: what if, during StrikerS, Teana and Erio develop a 'big sister & little brother' bond? Just a cute, innocent sibling bond, with Tia's nurturing instincts waking up due to having the sweet little baby brother she'd sometimes imagined having, while Erio becomes cutely attached to his onée-chan. Just a little what-if.

The other idea has a bit more thought put into it. While the gang is inspecting or transporting a Lost Logia of unknown function, little 5-year-old Vivio absent-mindedly dwells on how she loves her mamas, but she kinda wonders what it would be like if she had other kids closer to her in age to interact with and stuff. ...And she's in close enough proximity to the LL that it reacts to her wishes and activates. As a result, Subaru & Teana are turned into 5-year-olds, with Erio & Caro turned into 3-year-olds! Nanoha and Fate, being the motherly people they are, decided to take the quartet in and look after them until the Logia's effects either get undone or wear off on their own, with little Vivio happy to have two playmates her age AND a cute baby bro & baby sis to help look after! Highlights of the story would include Erio & Caro being super-cute together, and maybe the age-regressed Teana's issues over the deaths of her parents & brother being amplified by her younger age and reduced emotional control, leaving Nanoha-mama & Fate-mama to try to help widdle Tia deal with the pain and loneliness she's been suppressing in a healthy manner (which includes lots of cuddles).

RandomDSdevel_WCFaWF · 2021-04-29, 20:06

Hi; can recommendations be asked for in this thread, or is there another one for that for Nanoha fics?

Twi · 2021-04-29, 20:35

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Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel_WCFaWF

Hi; can recommendations be asked for in this thread, or is there another one for that for Nanoha fics?

What do you have in mind for recs? Crossovers? AU? Shipping?

RandomDSdevel_WCFaWF · 2021-04-29, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Twi

What do you have in mind for recs? Crossovers? AU? Shipping?

Cross-posting from my SpaceBattles post:

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What Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha fan fiction is there that expands upon how Arisa and Suzuka found themsleves inside the Temporal Force Field surrounding the second Book of Darkness incident in A's (specifically, ep. 10,) which means they have magical potential?

dahak · 2022-09-02, 18:43

I've finished a "set in the Nanoha universe story based on this prompt:
Retired magic space sailors fight organised crime among the harsh neon streets of an cyberpunk Aztec colony world.

The Vaizen Cat: will all willing be going up MON/WED/FRI on
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.co...maupin.107928/
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thre...-only.1038549/

2017-12-23, 10:46	Link #38863
Whedon the Snarker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2017	Alright. I have made three protagonists from the refugees. I plan that they will be the ones who interact with MGLN characters the most. Alaric: The young king of the Gethic. Alaric and his people came from the small Gethic Kingdom consisted of half a dozen planets. However, the Gethic had to abandon their planets after the mysterious fleet arrived, destroyed most of their navy, ransacked their planets, and enslaved many of their kin. During their journey to the TSAB, his father was killed when the Gethic clashed with other refugees. Being the sole heir, Alaric inherited the throne. His ambition is to make sure his people could once again have the lives that the mysterious fleet took from them. Theodora Aurelius: An officer of the Lexians. Theodora is one of the few surviving officers that managed to escape from the mysterious fleet alongside a small percentage of the population of Lexia. The majority of Lexians are enslaved by the mysterious fleet. Lexians are among the first refugees that the TSAB allowed to enter the border. With the rising tension between the locals and the refugees, Theodora had to ensure her people manage to survive through the turmoils. Dee Jay: An aide of an officer of the Anarchians, though later become the liaison between the Anarchians and the TSAB thanks to being fluent in both languages without the aid of translator. Dee Jay, like many Anarchians, is one heck of pragmatist. He once suggested sacking a city after the local government only give them a fraction of food that they need. This doesn't come true after said government finally give them the amount of food that they need. The characters most of the time represent their respective alignments; lawful (Theodora), neutral (Alaric), and chaotic (Dee). Whether their actions are good or bad depend on who judge them. Thought?

2017-12-23, 17:25	Link #38864
4th Dimension Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Adriatic Coast, Montenegro, Balkans	Scale? You are talking cities, planets etc? How many people are we talking about? It really can't be the ENTIRE population of a world because simply you can't WALK away from a world. You likely either need ships or LOADS of mages with a knack for travelling to transfer the entire population. And you likely don't have the first. You might be hammering the historical parallel WAAAAAYYY too closely, with names and whatnot. And after all, despite all possible corruption, TSAB is HIGHLY unlikely to bungle the refugee crysis as much as Romans did, what with ratcheting up the prices of food for their own gain to the point where Goths had to sell their own children into slavery. Secondly, if it's a reasonable amount of cargo ships that SOMEHOW escaped in time with some of the population, that shouldn't be that hard to solve given that TSAB is doing ongoing colonization efforts. So SPACE per say should not be the issue nor the tension with the locals when you can drop them on the other side of planet. On the other hand that colonization effort is likely to be a rush job and kinda a shit show, but then again given the possible crazy situations with LL that they might have gotten in before, I'm would not be surprised to learn they have protocols for migrating large amounts of people to a new world. And any problem there is largely down to time, not down to TSAB not being able to do it. __________________ Join Midchilda Discord server - a Nanoha community server

2017-12-23, 21:10	Link #38866
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 37	One thing to keep in mind is that on Mid-childa itself, the planet is not full settled. There's still a lot of frontier to colonize. __________________

2017-12-22, 20:14	Link #38861
Whedon the Snarker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2017	I have an idea that's inspired from the Migration Period during the Late Antiquity. Some times after the Mariage Incident, the border worlds of the Time-Space Administrative Bureau are greeted by flotilla of ships. Ships filled with refugees. The refugees tell stories on how their worlds are ransacked by some fleet of warships and they had to evacuate from them. At first, the Bureau gladly accept the refugees. However, as more and more ships come, the Bureau finds itself overwhelm and finally had to refuse them until they can reorganize to handle the problems better. Thing is, situation is heating up at both inside and outside. Inside, the settled refugees had to compete with the locals and thus offered to work with lower wages. This caused strife between the locals and the refugees. There are also some culture clashes. Outside, the refused refugees grow impatient and start to become violent. In the end, the Bureau finds itself need to handle many problems; the refugees inside the border and the local population are clashing with each other, the refugees outside the border threaten to forcefully enter the Administrative Worlds, chaos in both military and administration due to the problems, and the same fleet that ransacked the homes of the refugees are sailing closer to the TSAB. Thought?

2017-12-23, 04:42	Link #38862
vic-vic Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: forge-world Moscow 1 Age: 38	I like the idea: it would a great deal to show how just logistic can provide an enermous challenge. Not to say, it's a problem where our heroes just can't rely on their pew-pew beams, without wrecking their owm morals. And there is a mysterious fleet...

2017-12-24, 12:44	Link #38868
vic-vic Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: forge-world Moscow 1 Age: 38	Indeed, and that's why it's called logistic nightmare. But at least, refugees have their own ships to move. Still ,creating a new settlements and all necessary infrastructure would require an uttery hideous amount of funds and materials. And THIS can be a primary reason for the conflict

2018-10-24, 17:44	Link #38869
DKN117 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Whittier, Southern CA Age: 35	So, I've come up with a couple of StrikerS story ideas that I'm too busy to write and (more importantly) don't believe I could write well, and I'm putting them up for 'adoption' here if anybody wants to try either of them. First is a kinda basic idea: what if, during StrikerS, Teana and Erio develop a 'big sister & little brother' bond? Just a cute, innocent sibling bond, with Tia's nurturing instincts waking up due to having the sweet little baby brother she'd sometimes imagined having, while Erio becomes cutely attached to his onée-chan. Just a little what-if. The other idea has a bit more thought put into it. While the gang is inspecting or transporting a Lost Logia of unknown function, little 5-year-old Vivio absent-mindedly dwells on how she loves her mamas, but she kinda wonders what it would be like if she had other kids closer to her in age to interact with and stuff. ...And she's in close enough proximity to the LL that it reacts to her wishes and activates. As a result, Subaru & Teana are turned into 5-year-olds, with Erio & Caro turned into 3-year-olds! Nanoha and Fate, being the motherly people they are, decided to take the quartet in and look after them until the Logia's effects either get undone or wear off on their own, with little Vivio happy to have two playmates her age AND a cute baby bro & baby sis to help look after! Highlights of the story would include Erio & Caro being super-cute together, and maybe the age-regressed Teana's issues over the deaths of her parents & brother being amplified by her younger age and reduced emotional control, leaving Nanoha-mama & Fate-mama to try to help widdle Tia deal with the pain and loneliness she's been suppressing in a healthy manner (which includes lots of cuddles).

2021-04-29, 20:06	Link #38870
RandomDSdevel_WCFaWF Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Kokomo, IN, USA Age: 29	Hi; can recommendations be asked for in this thread, or is there another one for that for Nanoha fics?

2022-09-02, 18:43	Link #38873
dahak Utu Class Planetoid Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reading, UK	I've finished a "set in the Nanoha universe story based on this prompt: Retired magic space sailors fight organised crime among the harsh neon streets of an cyberpunk Aztec colony world. The Vaizen Cat: will all willing be going up MON/WED/FRI on https://forums.sufficientvelocity.co...maupin.107928/ https://forums.spacebattles.com/thre...-only.1038549/