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Perfect 10 | 2 | 50.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 1 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 1 | 25.00% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 0 | 0% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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KnT is not some random evil that fell off the sky to haunt Touma out of nowhere. Rather, it is Touma's own karma that caused it to end up like that. What is unfair when it is Touma in full circle in the first place? I mean, didn't we already went over this in other threads in the past? My point hasn't changed from other thread. Touma is essentially disrespecting himself. Then I as a reader has no need to respect him either He only got by with this with the excuse that he'll achieve happy end on his own merit, and won't make the same mistake to rely on KnT. But even that excuse goes out of the window this volume. To think Anna became his harem girl last volume because he doesn't take short cuts for the easy way out, and he just does the direct opposite this volume... He doesn't have to. That's why I pity her. |
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How is Touma finally using the power he has instead of pretending it doesn't exist or it has nothing to do with him taking the easy way out or a short cut? I wouldn't even call what Touma did relying on it since he leveraged a bunch of other stuff as well.
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2023-12-16, 01:51 | Link #24 | |
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The answer is no. Let's use IB as an example. Did he try to improve his fighting prowess so he can better deal with whatever big bad is going to show up next? Or did he just spent his days unprepared and slacking off like he always did? Will it be so hard to give Accel a call to have him dig up Aleister's old research data on IB? And provide it to Othinus and come up with ways to bring out IT's untapped potentials? He knows the limitation if IB good enough, and know IB is his biggest weapon without KnT. He also have Othinus on his shoulder, who can use IB better than he did to the scope of restoring an entire Phase. And what did he do with all these resources? Nothing. Did he studied and worked hard like a proper student to fine his ability before the crisis hit? Or he just take the short cut and pull out KnT? This is a sharp contrast to Accel who is constantly honing his skill as AC's new mastermind. I mean, what would you feel if Accel breaks principles by coming out of the jail, calls out the Third Tree and brute force not CRC? And we know Accel doesn't have to go that route because he learned and improved and better utilized the options he has. While reminding himself that he can't break his principle so he must improve himself at this new game of being a mastermind. So Touma. No, I won't ask you to be good as Accel. But... did you even try? Did the idea of "since I am not using KnT anymore, what I can do to better myself" ever cross your mind? |
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I am not saying Touma has to become a super fighter within a month, the question is he didn't even try. Or he'll, just make money out of IB. AC fundamentally is a Temple designed for IB. And with the Human gone, no one knows in what way AC is currently functioning around IB now. Is it still attracting disaster to Touma? Is the whole phase erasure plan is still running in background on auto pilot? especially you believe Aleister left no data behind?
Setting up a research project on IB is like a top priority when it comes to AC's safety. And you know Esper gets paid for the project they are in? This is win win for everyone. Yet no one think of thus is alarming. And you make it sounds like contacting Mina is hard. She is supportive of the city still, and she has a cell phone. Othinus? Irrelevant that she doesn't know IB's secrets. The point is she can use it better than him. She restored an entire Phase when Touma can't even handle normal magics when they are just too many. Did then even try to expand IB's scope of restoration when it is used by Touma? And if you believe Touma's talk with KnT is just bullshit and not commitment, then it only further proves Touma is not respecting himself. Because that is equal to bullshiting himself. Again, the deal with KnT is not just Touma having his life stolen, but also his Karma add up and reach the breaking point. It is is his identity problem at core. Which is evident in the self vs. talent question. And if Touma's response to that is just bullshit, then of course this is self disrespect. Then his flip flop on this issue shows he cares even less on his identity. |
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Should he have kept up the kayfabe even if people died as a result? Is that not bullshitting his main desire to protect people's smiles. That's his first priority. His identity crisis is a result of him building his identity on a foundation of lies which is what caused this whole problem. Slowly but surely over the course of the series he's been working on creating a foundation for his own life based on what he wants.
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He really can begin with asking his peers to find her number. Quote:
We are in a time we know IB is tied to AC's foundational designs. And AC's new boss is doing the best he can to improve his options in mastering what the old boss left behind. Seriously, do you think the black box of AC should be left sitting there and continue to be a black box? Do you think continuing to neglect IT is a responsible way of running the AC? Quote:
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But I don't believe he made any meaningful progress or knows what he wants to do with himself at all. He has no vision on what he wants to become and just flip flop whenever a new threat shows up. Sure, he is building a new foundation, but that's not because he has vision on what he wants to become and take proactive steps to change. It is just him adjusting to reality differently from before, with himself if it is for the better or not. Then his messed up priority where he is willing to risk a person's safety to save another. And then hopefully he can get away with it by relying on things not of his merit. If anything, I felt his messed up priority has gotten worse. And he himself has no idea on how to deal it with either. That's one reason he messed up on handling Alice two volumes ago. Everyone's smile? He can't even properly tell what this "everyone" encompass. |
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And I'd say his issue with Alice was yet another manifestation of his kayfabe problem, not anything about his priorities. Quote:
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It is for everyone's benefit for IB and AC's secret out in open. At least for Touma's inner circle. They have nothing but benefits if they figure this out. Quote:
Then replicate exactly what allowed Othinus to expand IB's power to phase level. Don't you think they should try this first instead of having Touma getting exasperated the same old way whenever IB fails him? Quote:
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I mean did the people he endagered are suddenly not part of his "everyone" ? What happened this time is a repeat of St.Gwrmain, not CRC is so strong that KnT can't bail Touma out. The only difference is that no one on Touma's side got wiped because Accel has a better plan B. So again Touma made a bad decision yet avoid responsibility. That's why I say he is just flip floping and has no idea on what "everyone" is to him. |
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Did you need a scene where Touma asks his peers for the phone number of a woman barely any of them know to exist?
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He knows clearly what 'everyone' means to him (or at least he has a better idea since he met the Transcendants) but he also realizes thanks to meeting them, that sometimes life is not so simple and he'll have to go outside of what is ideal for him for his own sake.
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Not to mention the AIM is not meant exist independently but as fuel to refine IB. Exploring IB will be necessary to fully understand the AIM field in AC. Really, why are you do bent on believing it is okay to not care. When actually caring about thing like this benefits the city? Quote:
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He learned to rely in his comrade is actually one of his biggest improvements. My issue with him is his priority is when it comes to "everyone". Like how he over looked St. Germain last time? And this time. First, wanting to save Anna is not the issue. That part is fine. But what about everything else? Are the people getting endagered while saving Anna a part of "everyone"? Or did he even think about that at all? And if Touma truly think of "everyone" and believe he can make it out this fight safe and sound with all if them in tact, what is the basis of his confidence? Did he really learned from St. Germain and prepare himself for the next super boss he may face? Or is he saying big words without knowing the weight of it and needs bail out from some one else again? |
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If you can't verbalize that, it's just wishful thinking on your part. I can say the best thing for Touma to do is just get a gun, but he already had that discussion with Othinus. Quote:
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He knew it was a risk and did it anyway. The whole reason he even did something he didn't even want to do with KnT is because it was a risk he took in the first place and so he had to make it happen no matter what.
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And you are the person who us coming up with excuses for him not to do it. When there is no excuse to not try at all. Quote:
Explore other options. Like substituting the the calculation process with himself? Or try upgrade the entire firmware of the AIM field now that the Third Tree, product of Misaka Network, has been installed into the worldly phases. And I say get IB involves necessary. What has been happening around IB is negative thus far is because Aleister set ot up that way. Now the man is no longer in charge. It is time to take a.positice.appraoch about it. Quote:
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And his best is no longer enough, even with KnT. In other words, he is in another situation he takes no responsibility (because if casualties occur in this case, the responsibilityis so big that someone will have to clean it up for him.) Did you see we are now back to the original problem of Touma taking no consequences again? Sure, it is right for him to ask his comrades for help. And yes, he deserve to be helped for what he did for rhem. And yes, they are willing to help Touma because they want to be useful to Touma too. But Touma, I am sure you didn't make friends for the purpose of having them fight for you, right? Did you notice you are running into situations where your comrades have to take responsibility FOR you, and not WITH you because you are making claims that is far above your capacity. Not saying he has to be super strong over night to take responsibility. But did he even half as much awareness compare to say Mikoto in knowing "I am weak, and I need to do everything I have to be strong. And I know that's still not enough"? That's why I see no value in Touma's decision in using KnT. KnT had failed multiple time before super bosses in NT already. It can't even finish off a drastically weakened Coronzo. Is he really that wishful thinking to believe using KnT is good enough to take responsibility for his big words? It only shows his ignorance to how weak he is in front of the ever escalating threats he is facing right now. |
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Every time this phase stuff is brought up, it's mentioned over and over again how dangerous it is. In less than a year, there have been multiple occasions where AC phase research could have blown up the whole city or the whole country at a minimum. Quote:
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They aren't the same and treating them that way is again just wishful thinking.
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Can you not see how Touma has become increasingly useless before the ever power inflating super bosses? What you are saying is that it is fine Touma to continue to job and leech off his comrades for victory? Since Touma's harem is so loyal to him, he can just continue to take leverage in them because they'll end up saying yes to him in one way or another? Having people to rely on is no excuse to not improve yourself. Especially you are making claims far above your capabilities. What's worse that he breaking principle in using KnT is essential asking someone to fight for him as well. Just he asked someone he hates instead of someone he trusts. Quote:
Touma, if you are going to rely on your harem so much to fight for you now. Why not just ask your harem members in England to host you there? I am sure you'll have a better living condition there and better chance at improving yourself. At least that sounds like a better approach at life than crying for help last minute when a super boss shows ip. |
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What you're doing is essentially blaming someone who lives in poverty for not having tens of thousands of dollars in their bank account to do stuff.
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His comrade did a lot to be able to fight along side him. But did Touma did anything to live up to the effort they spent? His stagnation has been going on for too long, and it was happening since when he was still in the I'll keep everything myself period. And I was wanting him to open up to his friends so they can have more mutual understanding, which hopefully can make Touma less reckless and less self destructive if he understandhiw importanthe is to them. Definitely not because I want Touna to become some one who turns to his friends for bail outs with even crazier demands than before. Quote:
I don't like this example myself. But Touma, if jobbing reapeatly and crying for help in the end is going to be your new fighting style. Then ask them for money first before their lives if you still have some dignity in you. And please make their investment on you worthwhile. And even I take a hundred steps back and be fine with Touma being a person who bets on others to provide a rescue... there is still a huge difference between the Touma breaking down in need for someone to be on his side, and Maria who peaked this volume by peristed with pure faith in Touma to stand up again. |
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The reason they helped Touma even though Anna doesn't deserve it is not just because they like him, but because he saw the humanity in someone they already wrote off, because they themselves were in positions where people wrote them off once. That makes him worthwhile for them. Quote:
If I play the metaphor straight then no, it's not he kind of simple one to one thing they can easily help him with.
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She has absolute faith in him before an team wipe, and she only know him for a short period of time. Compare to the way Touma breaks down in the beginning of the volume. Do you really think he has as much faith in his harem as as they do to him? If he has half as much faith as Maria, he'll be standing firm on the ground insteaf of having a break down, and make advance knowing his comrades will eventually catch up from behind. |
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