2022-04-06, 16:26 | Link #21 | |
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Hate-watching anime is a waste of time for me unless I'm invested in the franchise in general (which I don't think Shield Hero is much of a franchise I'm invested in). If I want a hate-watch, I can always turn on the news. My time is precious.
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2022-04-06, 16:33 | Link #22 | ||
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2022-04-06, 17:23 | Link #24 | |
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2022-04-06, 17:55 | Link #25 |
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I have to answer this, otherwise we can't finish this conversation, so I will keep it short.
3 of them are correct, but 2 of them don't really belong to MCs party. The last one is actually wrong but I get why people would think that way . This should wrap this topic up.
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2022-04-07, 06:50 | Link #29 |
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Why would the writer have to at this point? Aside from being a bit brusque sometimes, Naofumi is a respected hero, runs his own area competently, is helpful to the queen and so on.
To me it seemed a bit strange that the three other heroes all got up simultaneously and left. It seems from my perspective as if they have their own plans which run in the background. The part about wanting to focus on the waves exclusively somehow seemed more of a contrivance than their real intentions.
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2022-04-07, 09:21 | Link #32 |
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My takeaway after thinking it over was that the Three Stooges wanted to beat Naofumi to the Tortoise so they can get more EXP than him, which is why they acted like it didn't matter to them.
Fitoria keeps acting like it's important for all four Heroes to work together when Naofumi does fine just basically carrying everything with his shield. Was it like this with the original Shield Hero and she just doesn't remember ?
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2022-04-07, 09:58 | Link #33 |
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He hasn't been doing just fine. He's been barely scraping by. Despite my own beliefs about the narrative and how it bends to make Naofumi look good and my questioning why they hadn't locked the princess in a tower and bricked it shut, the heroes are the strongest people due to the benefits of their weapons, while Naofumi's party has only been able to match them because of the Slave-User Shield giving them increased stat growths because of course it does.
The waves are going to get stronger and Glass' party both helped them deal with the sea monster and then barely got routed the last time, so the tricks they pulled won't work a second time. The other heroes are the best bet they have working in tandem with him, but the earlier part of the series along with the fact that the King summoned all four when they were supposed to be split to handle the waves across the different areas have left them all underleveled and uncooperative to the point where Fitoria has been doing the heavy lifting off-screen. The problem is she's making empty threats because you can't kill them and have the story continue, so it doesn't have much weight out of universe.
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2022-04-07, 10:18 | Link #34 | |
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2022-04-07, 10:54 | Link #36 | |
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Given all the new characters in the OP I wouldn't expect too much from the three stooges this season either. Maybe in S3... or S5... |
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2022-04-07, 11:08 | Link #37 |
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Well, I agree that the show relied a bit too much on making the other three heroes stupid to make Naofumi look good, especially since he was in his edgelord phase during at least half of the first season. Since they presumably are out of the picture for the foreseeable time, it'll be interesting if Naofumi grows a bit without such crutches.
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2022-04-07, 11:21 | Link #38 |
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I think the argument is more that the threat isn't empty from an in-universe perspective. It's just that the audience know she will never get to follow through on it because the story hinges on the heroes succeeding.
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2022-04-07, 11:57 | Link #40 |
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I’ve said it before, but I don’t think the intent was to make him look good by comparison, but rather to note the problems with certain types of “hero” (both LN heroes and gameplay styles). One’s a loner who focuses on power, one is always just even when he doesn’t bother to think things through, and one only cares about making any woman near him happy. These all have connections to common heroic tropes, and we’re shown how bad they can be.
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