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2008-04-09, 21:26 | Link #23 | |
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2008-04-09, 21:51 | Link #24 |
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Lulu initially came off as power hungry clone of Lightu . But as the series progressed we came to know he is a multifaceted and a multilayered person . Lulu has made some mistakes but thats due to his inexperience than aggressiveness . Lulu is a very likeable character he has shades of Black and white . But overall a good character as he didnot need to start the revolution as he is royalty himself . If you take away his cocky attitude he is a deep caring person
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2008-04-09, 22:30 | Link #27 | |
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2008-04-09, 22:44 | Link #32 |
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To briefly touch on what seems to be the theme of the day, the Light/Lelouch comparison is mainly an issue of summary, in that when you boil down all the specifics of both stories to a paragraph, they do indeed come off as similar. I dislike comparing anything further because almost everything, from intended audience to even the art style indicate a huge difference between the stories.
As to Lelouch himself, he is indeed an interesting character, but a trait that is not yet being talked about is what seems to be his colossal hypocrisy. For example, he is clearly aware that his militaristic activities are influencing both innocent and neutral parties, but he only cares about collateral damage when it impacts someone he knows. I found this bothersome because it strikes me as incredibly wrong to treat SOME people like chess pieces, but to move others off the board because they are precious, or somesuch nonsense. It is particularly irksome when a character that is supposed to be as intelligent as he is seems to be blind to the fact that he allows personal attachment to so often cloud his judgement. Ironically, perhaps it proves that he is exactly the same man his father is, right down to the contempt for those that do not serve his needs. Btw, the more I watch this series, the more I wonder if we aren't going to get a scene towards the end, with Lelouch's rebellion having nearly succeeded, and the emperor saying,"I always knew you would be the success, Lelouch. When you finish me, you will be the true leader." |
2008-04-09, 22:49 | Link #33 | |
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If you boil down Lelouch and Light, they are at heart two completely different characters with extremely different motivations, goals, and methods. If you oversimplify to "High school student with fabulous hair who uses a magic power and kills people and wants to change the world", you've lost everything important about their characters, and are instead focusing on mere background settings. -_- |
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2008-04-09, 22:50 | Link #34 | |
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2008-04-09, 22:51 | Link #35 |
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As creepy as Voduars last pargraph is I can't see him as visualizing this as off target. I hope though Lelouch will see through his act to the truth that for weak to have equal say everyone must have a voice. (i.e. Parliament, congress, etc.)
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2008-04-09, 22:56 | Link #36 |
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Perhaps you are right, but that thought popped up when I realized that, from a certain perspective, Lelouch is doing exactly what his father wants, assuming that the Emperor legitimately believes in social darwinism to the degree he claims to. Such a person would, in fact, want his successor to tear down his own decadent empire, slaughter all but the greatest of his siblings, and rebuild everything a new with vigor and ruthlessness. Briefly, I was absolutely certain that this was the twist for the series. However, the entire multidimensional aspect of this series allows for a less dreary ending. Also, all of what I just said is predicated on the Emperor not being a hypocrite. If the son is any indication, he is quite stuffed with it.
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2008-04-09, 23:01 | Link #37 |
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Your kidding right? What commander doesn't have to treat his subordinates as pawns sometimes, that's the name of the game in war, and its very understandable. The fact that he isn't completely immune, that he has people he cares about, proves his humanity or would you want him to be a cold, emotionless megalomaniac? Does the Emperor even HAVE anyone he cares about? What he does is logical, viewing his soldiers indifferently in order to make the decisions he needed to make, and even then he grew somewhat attached to the Order after seemingly likely to cut off ties with Ougi in episode 6 because they had grown too familiar and dependent on him. In any event, caring about people close to you and letting their involvement affect your usually sound and clear judgment is what makes Lelouch more understandable and human I think, compared to say Light who really didn't give a crap in the end and focused solely on his goals even after setting up the lose of his father. Lelouch on the other hand, does the exact opposite, giving up the world in order to rescue his sister, and that is what makes him the better man in my view.
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2008-04-09, 23:01 | Link #38 |
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I'm pretty confident that Lelouch is going to be anything but his father by the end of the show. I used to see an ending like that being possible, but it doesn't seem as viable anymore.
I'm sure the Emperor enjoys it to some degree. He does have his plan to fufill still though.
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2008-04-09, 23:04 | Link #39 | |
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2008-04-09, 23:15 | Link #40 | |
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Still, I think that threating everyone like chess pieces is too much. Sometimes he seems to be thruly concerned about his subordinates, but then he suddenly changes and threats them like worthless chess pieces. Anyways, I really like the character. He needs to make some excercise though, like lifting some weights, or at least practice a lot in a KMF (he can improve his skills a lot by training with Kallen). That would make him a stronger leader and it would make his encounters with Suzaku more interesting, not just simple gun fights like in episode 25. |
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