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View Poll Results: Can the problems with the UN be fix? | |||
The UN is working fine, nothing to fix. | 6 | 7.50% | |
YES, the UN has problem but it can be fix. | 51 | 63.75% | |
NO, dissolve it now, it is a waste of time and money | 19 | 23.75% | |
Others | 4 | 5.00% | |
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-05-31, 18:34 | Link #22 | |||
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
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The other parts of the UN is a huge bloated burecreacy that i doubt the people in those dept knows what they are doing.
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2008-06-01, 02:12 | Link #23 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Answer: It does not work, it never has, it never will.
Case-in-point: Uganda, Somalia, Iran, Venezuela, Yugoslavia, Dafur, North Korea, Afghanistan, and so on. Feel free to add your own countries, trust me, I could go on but I feel my point has already been made. |
2008-06-01, 18:56 | Link #26 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 38
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The idea of the UN is a good one, but I think that right now its reason for existence is a bit murky. It's a good place for allowing nations to discuss matters (this is a crucial function) but when it comes to things like enforcement it's relatively weak and doesn't have much respect. The goal of the UN should probably be redefined, and it should work to be a bit more specialized.
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2008-06-01, 19:18 | Link #27 |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: missouri, usa
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i think the un was a good idea, to be able to talk out problems and get other countries insight into important issues. i admit that the un has made mistakes, but they can try and fix them. the purpose for the un was to avoid the last resort war, and also if one country is attacked by someone outside of the un, the other un members would help the country that was attacked.
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2008-06-02, 11:05 | Link #28 | ||
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2008-06-02, 12:31 | Link #30 | |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
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kosovo could be consider a 3rd case but it was again US led effort with UN approval. And as Nightbat@ said, the UN never prevent a war that i can remember. If the country wanted to go at it they would go it regardless of the UN.
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2008-06-02, 14:00 | Link #31 | |
Le fou, c'est moi
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Age: 34
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We can't possibly have every situation being an international crisis and the UN flexing its muscles down to gain popularity points time and again after all. A world like that is going to be bad for my heart... |
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2008-06-02, 14:17 | Link #33 | |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
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So how is that different form Bush telling american citizens that the government has prevent terrorist in the US since 9/11 but can't tell us about it and that we just have to trust him? i really can't fine much of a difference between what wrote and what Bush said.
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2008-06-02, 14:21 | Link #34 |
Le fou, c'est moi
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
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I'm not accepting it at face value (and did the UN itself said it prevented wars? I can't remember; it made statements towards trying to achieve that for sure though), merely pointing out the alternative possibility to your assertion. A plausible alternative by all means; international diplomacy isn't exactly a black marker-free zone -- even academics find it hard to build a full picture when so many things are left in the dark.
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2008-06-02, 14:45 | Link #35 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hamburg
Age: 54
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People look at the UN with the wrong expectations. They are 1) A forum for diplomacy 2) A place to address international issues and grievances 3) An important cornerstone for International Law 4) An indispensible vehicle for humanitary help 5) A widely accepted source of international legitimacy This is what the UN is _not_ 1) World Police 2) World Government Therefore, criticism that the UN fails these two requirements is bogus - that's not what the UN is about. Yes, it's plagued by corruption (like any other government too). Yes, its resolutions are often ignored (and yet, their political pressure is better than nothing). So what would the alternative be? Drop out of the UN (which was a US initiative, by the way) to save a couple of bucks? Would that help ANYTHING? Obviously not. But just look at the latest middle east developments on how things deteriorate when the UN is actively sidelined and ignored. |
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2008-06-02, 15:02 | Link #36 |
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Since a while ago (I can't remember the exact date, but it was around 2000), every single year Argentina has presented a petition to restart negotiations with the UK over the supremacy of the Falkland Islands. And, every single year, it got approved. And, every single year, the UK shat on it and refused to begin negotiations.
So yeah, I wouldn't say it's exactly working. Perhaps it's useful for those countries with lots of power at stake among their ranks, but for small countries, no can do. In my mind, it's more like a cruel joke, as someone said already, sort of like democracy. I know, it's the best we've got, but it's like this sort of game where everyone pretends to be fair and just, and things just don't work like that at all.
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2008-06-02, 18:12 | Link #37 | |
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that says "don't do that" but noone listens until the shit hit the fan and they're sent to clean up the mess? that's what the UN is, and has been since it's beginning the world's cleaninglady a bloody expensive one at that
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2008-06-02, 18:40 | Link #38 | |
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2008-06-02, 19:43 | Link #39 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 38
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Wandering Knight: This is from wiki, so I can't vouch for its accuracy. With that disclaimer...
"n June 2003 the issue was brought before a United Nations committee, and attempts have been made to open talks with the United Kingdom to resolve the issue of the islands. As far as the Falkland Islands Government and people are concerned, there is no issue to resolve. The Falkland Islanders themselves are almost entirely British and maintain their allegiance to the United Kingdom.[24] On 2 April 2007 (exactly 25 years after the Argentine invasion), Argentina renewed its claim over the Falkland Islands, asking for the UK to resume talks on sovereignty." |
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