2008-08-17, 19:19 | Link #21 | |
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Yes, the government could be keeping random things like Bigfoot secret from us, but I could also be a hamster in an elaborate human suit, infiltrating your society to conquer it from within. You have to draw a line somewhere. |
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2008-08-17, 19:27 | Link #23 | |
HI, BILLY MAYS HERE
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Hell, if I were Bigfoot, I'd do anything I could to keep myself hidden too...
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2008-08-17, 22:02 | Link #25 |
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I think the crypto-zoologists would just move on to the next mythical creature if that were the case. In fact, it'd probably inspire a hell of a lot more people to join their ranks!
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2008-08-18, 11:12 | Link #26 | |
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And no, that's not Creech AFB (aka Indian Springs).
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2008-08-18, 12:02 | Link #28 | |
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That's why it has such a long runway and heavy security, so it can handle pretty much any type of aircraft, and give pilots a bit of extra runway when they're testing experimental aircraft. Since we're talking about classified aircraft, the high security should be obvious. As an added benefit all the UFO rumors help maintain the secrecy of the projects. A report of a new type of aircraft in the sky would attract all kinds of attention. A UFO? Not so much.
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2008-08-19, 18:01 | Link #32 | |
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Crypto-zoologists might be barking up the same tree as ghost chasers and ufo believers but personally I find it comforting to know that people are so genuinely interested in those subjects to take it at least somewhat seriously. Unfortunately there are a ton of crackpots in those fields who give the rest a bad name. And of course the people who just want to profit from curiosity like these guys with the Bigfoot hoax. >< I won't go so far as to say Bigfoot exists, or other such things. But I do believe that the world, as small as it seems thanks to our improved technology and communication, is still large and with many places humans simply don't go to much if at all. The chances of finding things we previously thought were myth or discovering entirely new things is still possible. There is still a lot of mystery left in the universe, so it's always good to see people exploring possibilities, even if they seem silly and pointless sometimes.
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2008-08-19, 18:48 | Link #33 | |
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And both the squid and coelacanth are deep sea animals. there are probably more surprise down in the deepest part of the ocean we haven't seen yet. finding a large unknow terrestial animal is a different matter. The large the animal, the more food it needs and the bigger the size of terrority it needs for either forging or hunting. Currently thier aren't that many places on land that humans are not there and can provide enough food to sustain a large population of large animals.
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2008-08-19, 19:37 | Link #34 | |
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My view on the subject is probably a bit skewed from watching too much Penn and Teller, I'm sure there are plenty of intelligent cryptozoologists around. It's just that Bigfoot hiding out there somewhere is an alluring thought, and people often cloud their judgment with that they'd like to be true. And I definitely agree with Xellos that the deep sea is the best place to find "completely new species." But of course, traveling to the bottom of the ocean is not a viable option for most people who have cryptozoology as a hobby.
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2008-08-19, 19:45 | Link #35 | |
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The giant squid never had much evidence to support it because up until recently any corpses that were found were too far decomposed to make sense of. I guess "existence" might have been too strong of a word but there are cases in history like it, where corpses are discovered but are in such poor shape that identification is/was impossible. And even if you could say it was a species, it was difficult to learn anything about unusual features (odd color, shape, size, etc.). The coelacanth is an example of this. The first documented specimen was in the 30's, the second wasn't until the 50's, and documenting them in natural habitats didn't happen until as recently as the last two decades. They've also been found recently in Indonesia and Tanzania as well. I agree with you that as far as terrestrial species go, finding large creatures is unlikely. It's far more likely that deep sea creatures would be found before something terrestrial. But that doesn't necessarily mean something doesn't exist either. It may not be Bigfoot or some other mythical creature but you never know. Absence of evidence doesn't mean they exist or not, but playing by odds isn't exactly science either.
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2008-08-19, 19:52 | Link #36 | |
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Well...I still don't believe in anything in the supernatural , I must see it with my own eyes and Then I will believe in it but I must be sure that's it is real!! |
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2008-08-19, 21:42 | Link #37 |
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You know, there are tons of things that are about earth that humans either currently or never will grasp the concept of...We currently can't predict the climate years in advance (Or tomorrow's weather, for that matter), and just to show how much we don't know about the planet, we continually find new species of insects and birds in the thick forests and jungles of South America and Africa where modern civilization doesn't even go...God knows what kind of stuff lurks in the deep sea where the darkness and pressure keep anything of ours from delving down into...
But those are birds and bugs and fish; Those things are inconspicuously small and don't take up a lot of resources, so they can practically go unnoticed by humans while still manage to exist underneath our noses for centuries of time...But we're talking about Bigfoot; A bigass hairy humanoid creature that's as big as a 7'-tall man, probably leaves behind a wake of used resources if it's anything like a human or primate, and has been on the lookout by humans while living near humans after being sighted by humans (Sighted by humans, ALLEGEDLY, of course)...I hardly doubt anything like this would manage to either go unnoticed or unavoided for some time, and when we have the scientific technology to identify unknown bugs and birds, I don't see how we could possibly miss something we've seen, allegedly... Maybe I'm being cynical, again, but to me it just seems like another man-made folklore...People have been known to tell stories; Ask any fisherman about the bass he caught that was "THIS" big...
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Evidence isn't strong for the case of something like Bigfoot, but every folklore has some truth behind the legend. Even if it's something rather mundane and explainable. I'm just happy to see people with a passion to chase their curiosity, that's all. What are we as humans without a sense of wonder? Quote:
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