2016-07-15, 22:18 | Link #21 |
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It's too bad that the attempted coup seems like it's going to fail. The military failed to capture/kill Erdogan, he's gotten the populace riled up in his favor, opposition parties have denounced the coup, and the chopper shootdown shows there's infighting within the military.
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2016-07-15, 23:36 | Link #22 | |
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Seriously, that's nothing short of a smearing campaign against an old man who preaches for altruism, hard work, education, interfaith dialogue, and multi-party democracy. I don't think I can pinpoint many faults with the character. Erdogan has to go after the whole lot of rubbish he either spouted or created by himself, especially by sleeping with ISIS. |
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2016-07-16, 00:02 | Link #23 |
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I am starting to accept the fact that the people of Turkey have decided as a majority, to want a theocratic Sultan ruling them. The founder of modern Turkey would not have approved, but he is not here anymore. And no matter what, the military would not be able to stage a coup successfully unless they have the population on their side.
People of Turkey have made their choice. And citizens who disagree with that choice probably has to accept it or leave the country.
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2016-07-16, 02:49 | Link #24 |
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I can see how it goes, "Wow women start talking too much for my tastes. Maybe we should reinstal sharia to put them back in their place." f that shit.
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2016-07-16, 03:54 | Link #27 |
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The coup has failed and Erdogan will only use this opportunity to make true dictatorship - pretty much like Hitler did after burning of Reichstag.
As for victims: "Here’s a breakdown of the death toll in the Turkish coup, as provided by General Umit Dundar, the newly appointed acting chief of the general staff. More than 190 people dead: 41 police officers, Two soldiers 47 civilians 104 people described as “coup plotters.” |
2016-07-16, 05:15 | Link #29 | |
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Well, now Erdogan can get his idea of how democracy works through with all the national and international support he wants and needs. Democracy aka "everybody who is against me or dares to criticizes me is an enemy of the state, no matter how old he or she is, and ends up in prison. Protests against me or my glorious ideas are beaten down while I ask for people to rally up for me when my power is threaten by the military. Also Gülen is at fault for everything that goes wrong.". Yeah, great, at this rate I bet in a couple years Erdogan will not only be reelected but also change his country's constitution enough to change the President position into Sultan position. <_<
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2016-07-16, 06:14 | Link #31 |
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From BBC:
"Latest developments in #TurkeyCoupAttempt: - Death toll rises to 161, with 1,440 wounded, PM says - More than 2,800 members of the armed forces detained - PM says situation is "fully under control" - Eight men have landed in Greece in Turkish military helicopter and claimed asylum. UPDATE: Turkey has asked Greece to return the 8 soldiers who requested asylum." 161 killed and 1,440 wounded, this was costly coup if nothing else. |
2016-07-16, 06:24 | Link #33 |
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While I don't really believe that Erdogan ordered such a farce I would not put it past him to have actively goaded certain elements in the armed forces to do such a thing. It's also a bit suspicious how quickly he and other AKP elements pointed to Gülen as supposed mastermind behind this.
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2016-07-16, 07:33 | Link #35 | |
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My country recent election for example: 52% came out to vote, out of those 52% the ruling party got 48% of votes. So they are realistically supported by 25% of the population and yet their rule in unquestioned and can make change with Constitution as they see it fit. Same goes with Erdogan. With this coup he successfully destroyed any remaining opposition agaisnt him, and he don't need 50% of popular support to achieve total power now. |
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2016-07-16, 10:12 | Link #38 |
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Another weird thing about this coup is how quickly Erdogan now cleans the judges when he had talked about cleaning up the military. Nearly 3000 judges detained in 12 hours, Jesus. With that the last bastions of real oppositions against Erdogan and his plans are done with. He basically got free reign now.
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2016-07-16, 11:12 | Link #39 | |
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lol, the independent has an article on this (conspiracy theory) |
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2016-07-16, 19:49 | Link #40 |
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There are some reported that Erdogan is claiming Turkey should have control over Albania and Bosnia?!
Apparently the speech was only in Arabic at this time. But if this is anywhere remotely true, this is even worse than I thought. I just think he is a guy who wanted to rule Turkey, I didn't think he would be so mad as to want to have an empire.
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