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2008-08-03, 16:32 | Link #25 |
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Act 1 was a total surprise.
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I'd say it goes further back to "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?. Can't wait for Act 2.
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2008-08-03, 17:19 | Link #26 |
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Well, that was a pleasant little episode. I like the music, and like someone said, it touches on an Asimov-like aspect of sci-fi which I'm quite fond of. And I, for one, was never sure of Akiko's stance as a human, so I wasn't too surprised.
Can't say I approve of the framerate-dropping scenes, though... they break the atmosphere too much. Though it could be the crappy encode.
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2008-08-04, 03:35 | Link #28 |
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Wow, this one managed to completely escape my attention. When I saw the torrent on TT and the title didn't ring a bell I checked it out on anidb expecting it to be some misplaced hentai or an 1980s OVA.
But what a pleasant surprise it was! Too bad it lacks a big budget. But if you have the money you invest it in safer bets anyway I fear. I soon expected that we'll have Spoiler:
Now I wonder if Spoiler:
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2008-08-04, 14:36 | Link #32 |
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Hey... is that the bar from Aquatic Language in the trailer? It looks really familiar...
Aww, come on. My immediate thought was "obvious plot twist is obvious." I was partially disappointed, though... Spoiler:
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2008-08-06, 05:57 | Link #33 |
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Aquillion: Done to death, but rarely, if ever, done well. At least in anime, anyway.
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Haven't seen Pale Cocoon, but I liked what I saw of this. It's got a pretty interesting universe and they've done a pretty job in establishing the general hostility people have towards androids (I loved the little anti-machine eco-commercial). First ep was quite interesting and enjoyable.
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2008-08-06, 06:13 | Link #34 |
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No it doesn't require a huge leap of faith because we've seen it already in Blade Runner and Persona 3. And it's usually the humans that develop the psychological problems or try to suppress the androids in some way.
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2008-08-06, 10:18 | Link #36 |
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I don't think that this has been done to death. I'm sure it has been done but I couldn't name an example at the moment. An AI that challenges the common definition of "human" is indeed an old idea but typically approached on a different and much too philosophical-theoretical level.
This wasn't about androids in the first place, it was about discrimination. Racism. Maybe slavery. (OK, once you buy the fact that the androids are entities that can be discriminated against then it's automatically also about slavery but I don't know how much that point will be stressed.) The Eve no Jikan could have well been placed in South Africa during the Apartheid. The parallels are so obvious. It's clearly a different game when you raise the old question of what makes a human in, say, the context of a dystopian cyberpunkian dissolving society where human rights look like a naive idea anyway. Or the clean research labs of Nerds Inc.
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2008-08-06, 17:08 | Link #37 |
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I'm going to agree with Slice of Life.
This isn't particularly about the androids themselves, so much as the fact they are being discriminated against. That's why the cafe is such a big thing, why they kept showing them being treated badly, and why they were constantly talked about like objects. The show may begin to focus on how the two boys react when you force the discrimination issue out the door, so they have to treat all equally. It would be like if you took someone from 1820 America and put them in modern day America. Not being allowed to discriminate when you've done it all your life is a hard thing to swallow. I don't think it is a big leap of faith to say the robots have developed some sort of emotions. Once you give an AI the capability to begin thinking for itself, wouldn't it eventually develop its own thought patterns, which would lead to emotions? It's all just speculation, but that seems to be the route the creators went. |
2008-08-07, 18:12 | Link #40 |
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Well, the idea itself isn't new, but, as I've said, I've never been completely satisfied with the way anime has dealt with it (granted, other medium have had slightly more success... operative word being "slightly").
But I think this carries itself well. Great visuals certainly help, but its established an interesting setting and a fitting mood. There aren't any obvious deficiencies in the script so far (the major twist of the first ep was a little obvious, but that's easy to forgive). I'd say, check out the first ep, and make up your mind based on that. It's only fifteen minutes, it won't hurt to watch it.
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