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Fran~ · 2011-03-02, 17:27

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Originally Posted by DeDe

How can she even use it? You were suppose to need amazing chakra to wield any of the treasures. But then that might have gone out the window with Darui.

How about if Kishi is on drugs?

Ino got her seconds of fame, why not Tenten

Besides Kakuzu uses several elemental techniques and the banana fan comes handy to fight him...

Tenten just a remider: Finders, keepers

Nobodyman9 · 2011-03-02, 18:38

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I can kind of see Choji dying here. The conflict is between Shikamaru and Asuma. So Ino and Choji sort of feel in the way. Plus I thought Kishi sort of foreshadowed it with the chapter being called "Choji's Determination"

Choji already "died" back in the Sasuke Retrieval arc, but Kishi chickend out (or the editors made him do it. Whatever). Choji is effectively immortal now.

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Hanzou vs. Mifune seems so random.

That's probably because it is.

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I think the war is now finally exciting.

No, not really.

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Even the art is frantic.

It's as bland as its ever been.

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The war is better when you have other action going on. And there just feels like bad things can happen.

And unfortunately Kishi hasn't invoked this sense at all during the war.

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There might be some deaths. Let's be honest, Kakashi's rampage is meaningless since nothing bad is going to happen to Kakashi. This is no doubt what will happen. But I can see some deaths here.

I would absolutely love to Kishi conjure up the nads to kill off some important characters, but I doubt it will happen.

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Mifune can't lose since that means Kankuro dies. And that won't happen.

Of course Mifune can lose. If he loses some other random character will show up at the last minute to save them.

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How can she even use it? You were suppose to need amazing chakra to wield any of the treasures. But then that might have gone out the window with Darui.

Amazing how Kishi can't even keep track of things he wrote only two weeks ago.

Kotengu · 2011-03-02, 19:10

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There are various ways for Mifune to be a decent match for ninjas. He can have trained his body to resist poison, maybe he's immune to genjutsu because he does not use chakra like ninjas do (just vague) and I think the samurai mainly focus on weapons, to be more precise swords. I remember one of them using some kind of energy on his blade. Was it chakra?

Itachi used genjutsu on a civilian chick, so that should apply to everyone. However the samurai are seen using Asuma style wind chakra blades. I kinda picture the samurai being rock lee style taijutsu specialists who try to overcome ninjutsu and genjutsu with overpowered taijutsu. That would be cool to see on someone with a different style than Rock lee and Guy. Especially on the Kage level without imba tools like chakra eating swords, Jinkuri, or portable oceans.

I don't imagine Kimmimaro is gonna sit still and let those two fight 1v1 thou. If his diamond bones are Earth type(gaia curse seal) he's gonna have problems against wind and lightning chakra thou.

Cael · 2011-03-02, 22:36

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Kishi shouldn't have gone two chapters just focsuing on Darui. The war is better when you have other action going on. And there just feels like bad things can happen.

I agree. Well, depends on the fights that are happening. But yeah, I think I enjoy it more when a lot more is shown going on.

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Mifune can't lose since that means Kankuro dies. And that won't happen.

If Mifune was ever in mortal danger I could see someone else jumping in, as he did for Kankuro. I doubt he will be the one to best Hanzou, instead he will probably be the guinea pig. And his division will be fodder for Kimimaro. In fact I feel like this is just a stall fight. Kimi and Chiyo will most likely face Lee and Sakura at one point.

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Tenten found the banana fan! Look at page 4. Tenten's rampage coming up.

How can she even use it? You were suppose to need amazing chakra to wield any of the treasures. But then that might have gone out the window with Darui.

She really needed/needs something new. (Who's got the better fan now, Temari?

) If one of the weapons consumed less chakra than the others, I would imagine it would be the fan. However I could be wrong and she could end up killing herself.

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Nintendo · 2011-03-02, 23:40

I just want to see some epic pain ownage. some of these bad guys should be able to take on and out a big number of fodder characters, but they focus on so little.

Blaster · 2011-03-02, 23:43

Too bad. It looks like Team Shika is going to take out Asuma. I wanted Kurenai v Asuma. This is a rather good chance to develop Kurenai and show something new rather than that few skills that team shika always uses.

solidguy · 2011-03-02, 23:59

*Tenten picks up fan*
"Hmmm what does this do?"

*waves fan*
*drops dead*

the story of tenten has ended

james0246 · 2011-03-03, 00:00

^Since Kurenai is currently pregnant, I don't see why you expected to see her fight Asuma...

Alchemist007 · 2011-03-03, 01:50

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Maybe if Konan was still alive

But alas, I had chosen to think she was still possibly around. Goddamn illusion bullshit.

Haak · 2011-03-03, 04:01

Meh, it was an okay chapter. Could've done without the team needing a pep talk. Look's like they've got samurai reinforcements. Rather timely but I'm interested in seeing how this will pan out.

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Amaing how Kishi can't even keep track of things he wrote only two weeks ago.

I'm getting a certain sense of irony here.
Darui specifically mentioned how much of a strain it was when he used it...

Nobodyman9 · 2011-03-03, 04:48

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I'm getting a certain sense of irony here.
Darui specifically mentioned how much of a strain it was when he used it...

He seemed to be able to use the gourd and amber pot just fine.

Bonta Kun · 2011-03-03, 06:42

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He seemed to be able to use the gourd and amber pot just fine.

Yea he could use them alright but for that moments use it almost drained him dead, prolonged or even used a few times would probably render him dead.
I don't think you needed amazing chakra to use them but to survive using them.
Thats what I'm going with anyway.

About Mifune, I wonder if he will be any where near as epic as a certain other Mifune swordmans.
I still consider Mifune from Soul Eater one of the best I've seen.

DeDe · 2011-03-03, 06:48

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She really needed/needs something new. (Who's got the better fan now, Temari?

) If one of the weapons consumed less chakra than the others, I would imagine it would be the fan. However I could be wrong and she could end up killing herself.

So Tenten will make Temari even more irrelevant than she already is.

Damn Kishi.

I guess this will be Kishi's attempt to make Tenten useful. You have to give him credit. He didn't even forget about Tenten. So she will probably use the fan against Kakuzu's masks to save Choza and crew. Now she should drop dead, but she won't. She'll just be drained.

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Too bad. It looks like Team Shika is going to take out Asuma. I wanted Kurenai v Asuma. This is a rather good chance to develop Kurenai and show something new rather than that few skills that team shika always uses.

I don't think anyone was looking for Asuma vs. Kurenai. The second we saw Asuma, we knew Shikamaru would fight him. Kurenai will only factor in a flashback with the baby.

Shikamaru is not going to use the same skills. Because Asuma knows them. That's why this fight should showcase new things. Hopefully a new Nara shadow jutsu or Shika making like Naruto in the OVA with the chakra blades.

The only long standing character in this war that even has the slightest chance of dying, outside of Tsunade, is Choji. Will Kishi have the guts? Probably not, but this fight has a lot of potential because unlike everyone else, Choji might not have a safety net. There might actually be a risk for a name Alliance member. Both Ino and Choji should get taken out. Ino is 100% safe though.

Fran~ · 2011-03-03, 08:44

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So Tenten will make Temari even more irrelevant than she already is.

Damn Kishi.

I guess this will be Kishi's attempt to make Tenten useful. You have to give him credit. He didn't even forget about Tenten. So she will probably use the fan against Kakuzu's masks to save Choza and crew. Now she should drop dead, but she won't. She'll just be drained.

First time the banana fan appeared i thought that it was made for Temari, she is a Jounin so you can expect that she could use it.

BUT... that thing is a weapon, Tenten is a weapon user, everybody got an upgrade for this battle (even Hinata saved Neji), Ino did something at last... so, why not Tenten... well her chakra could be drained by that thing, granted, but even Kakashi's chakra is drained by the mangekyo.

The anime viewers can remember the episode about Tenten and her regrets... well... how do you now if that was a hint about this?. Yes, it wasnt' canon, i know that.

OTOH... Probably Temari is there too, Shikamaru came all the way to this fight alone?... Temari is with him or with Gaara?.

ronin myael · 2011-03-03, 08:52

mifune versus hanzou eh? this would be more interesting if we actually knew something about mifune or saw some strength from the samurai, but we didn't. so i don't know. for some reason i'm not as excited about it as i should be. probably because i don't really care about hanzou either. so he fought the sannin, big deal! he's dead so somebody killed him which means he can be defeated.

i thought the part where dan was telling chouza how to defeat him was funny. if there was a technique that would not only revive the dead but turn them evil as well, that would be more interesting. i would prefer to see an evil asuma or evil chiyo. lol

but honestly, the last good fight that i read about/saw in naruto was shikamaru versus hidan and that was ages ago. so far this war hasn't given us anything remotely close to that. i'm getting bored. i'd like to see a good smart fight from shikamaru.

Fran~ · 2011-03-03, 09:05

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i thought the part where dan was telling chouza how to defeat him was funny. if there was a technique that would not only revive the dead but turn them evil as well, that would be more interesting. i would prefer to see an evil asuma or evil chiyo. lol

Kabuto thought that it would be a way to mindf*ck ninjas close to them.
But he can remove that and transforming them in just Killing machines, as we saw with Zabuza.

ronin myael · 2011-03-03, 09:15

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Kabuto thought that it would be a way to mindf*ck ninjas close to them.
But he can remove that and transforming them in just Killing machines, as we saw with Zabuza.

nah, the evil versions would be more interesting. the zombies would not only have their memories and personalities, but their "evil sides" more enhanced. we all have our dark sides after all. so for example, if shikamaru were to face an evil asuma, his former sensei could let out all his resentment and disappointments towards him. as proud as asuma was with shika, i'm sure shika frustrated him at some point. enhance that and shika would be practically begging him to stop. just imagine that someone important to you who died came back to life and started blaming you for his death, wouldn't you feel like shit? if kabuto wanted to screw around with their minds that would be an effective way to do it. too bad there's no such technique in the naruto world.

Sabaku Kyu · 2011-03-03, 10:17

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The only long standing character in this war that even has the slightest chance of dying, outside of Tsunade, is Choji. Will Kishi have the guts? Probably not, but this fight has a lot of potential because unlike everyone else, Choji might not have a safety net. There might actually be a risk for a name Alliance member. Both Ino and Choji should get taken out. Ino is 100% safe though.

I see even less hope than that. If Kishi didn't even kill off Chouza when he had the chance then the chances of Chouji dying are near nil... especially getting killed by his own sensei. That'd be awesome, but Asuma could never rest in peace knowing he killed his own student, even if he had no control over it. They won't give him that kind of ending.

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nah, the evil versions would be more interesting. the zombies would not only have their memories and personalities, but their "evil sides" more enhanced. we all have our dark sides after all. so for example, if shikamaru were to face an evil asuma, his former sensei could let out all his resentment and disappointments towards him.

So essentially they'd be like the waterfall version of Naruto during his training.

I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "please defeat me" attitude from some of the zombies, but still find it interesting that a few of them are good, because a decent amount of them are actually pretty big assholes by nature, so it's nice to see a mixture of personalities. It would be good to see Kabuto's choice of keeping some personalities intact pay off and have it actually work against the allies for once. So far, his decision has only worked in the alliance's favor.

Fran~ · 2011-03-03, 10:51

Villains are condemned to being fools and fail at some point and that works for Kabuto too.

Slayerx · 2011-03-03, 11:59

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The only long standing character in this war that even has the slightest chance of dying, outside of Tsunade, is Choji. Will Kishi have the guts? Probably not, but this fight has a lot of potential because unlike everyone else, Choji might not have a safety net. There might actually be a risk for a name Alliance member. Both Ino and Choji should get taken out. Ino is 100% safe though.

Curious, what makes you say Chouji is the number 1 candidate to die beside tsunade? Hell i would say that, by anime logic, his near death long ago makes him practically immune to death; Death looses some its shock value after the first time... I'd also question the possible death of Kakashi, Neji and even tsunade for similar reasons; if kishi didn't kill them off back then when the time seemed right why would he kill them now?

But then again, i suppose at the same time, most of the long standing characters are seriously lacking in build up for death... I mean death is generally only worthwhile if their is someone to cry over them and the rest of the long standing cast has not had enough development to have built those strong bonds of friendship that would make the pain their friends go though feel really effective. Its like if Kiba died, we might see hinata and shino cry, but it would not be as effective since we never got to see how close the three of them were.

Not to mention I'm also feeling a great lack of suspense in this whole war... i mean the zombies feel as though they are only filler villains. They are here to mostly just to pad things out and give minor characters something to do... only people their killing off are people we don't care about... The biggest thing they'll accomplish is probably just making many of the big characters to weak to fight so that the main characters can be the only ones left standing to save the day... afteall we'll need a reason for Naruto to take on madara without any of the kages or big named characters helping out... the only Villians i would expect to kill anyone off are the ones who are still breathing; Zetsu, Kabuto and Madara

Ya i wouldn't hold my breath on any long standing characters dying in this war...

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Nintendo start thinkin bout clones Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Age: 40	I just want to see some epic pain ownage. some of these bad guys should be able to take on and out a big number of fodder characters, but they focus on so little. __________________

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ronin myael lost ronin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: in the recesses of my convoluted mind...	mifune versus hanzou eh? this would be more interesting if we actually knew something about mifune or saw some strength from the samurai, but we didn't. so i don't know. for some reason i'm not as excited about it as i should be. probably because i don't really care about hanzou either. so he fought the sannin, big deal! he's dead so somebody killed him which means he can be defeated. i thought the part where dan was telling chouza how to defeat him was funny. if there was a technique that would not only revive the dead but turn them evil as well, that would be more interesting. i would prefer to see an evil asuma or evil chiyo. lol but honestly, the last good fight that i read about/saw in naruto was shikamaru versus hidan and that was ages ago. so far this war hasn't given us anything remotely close to that. i'm getting bored. i'd like to see a good smart fight from shikamaru. __________________ "Sometimes you wake up. Sometimes the fall kills you. And sometimes, when you fall, you fly."~ Neil Gaiman (The Sandman)

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Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	Villains are condemned to being fools and fail at some point and that works for Kabuto too. __________________ Improving my english ^^

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Blaster Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Too bad. It looks like Team Shika is going to take out Asuma. I wanted Kurenai v Asuma. This is a rather good chance to develop Kurenai and show something new rather than that few skills that team shika always uses.

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solidguy I'm not a tumor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the dreams of beautiful women Age: 31	Tenten picks up fan "Hmmm what does this do?" waves fan drops dead the story of tenten has ended

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james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	^Since Kurenai is currently pregnant, I don't see why you expected to see her fight Asuma...