2010-07-14, 09:22 | Link #21 |
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Pistols are all well and good but don't expect to just walk around getting headshots if your an amateur. Standing around shooting a pistol is no better than using the M14 like a hose. You would eventually get overwhelmed. The importance of the pistol is the versatility it has, even if you get knocked down by a zombie you still have the chance to get a headshot while its on top of you. Always stay in motion and then steady when your getting ready to shoot. Assault rifles don't offer you that mobility.
I can't even imagine how the group would even get out of the school with only a nailgun and blunt weapons. Guns are so necessary Similarly the only reason I would travel with someone like Saya is because shes a genius and I would be able to rely on that for strategies. Mentally unhinged people are more dangerous than zombies sometimes.
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Going back to where that police officer was to lend a hand, you see a freshly reanimated corpse of a man dressed in blue. It is odd at first, but soon you realize it is the police officer you saw dual-wielding pistols. You think to yourself how could he have been overran by the zombies... then it strikes you — if you were to reload, it would take two magazines and twice the amount of time to do so, not to mention the reduction in accuracy while firing akimbo. Surely, to aim precisely at the head with two guns in both of your hands would require one to be in a rather uncomfortable range with the zombies, it is no wonder that police officer met his demise while you were gone. At a medium distance, you steadily aiming your M16A4 slightly below the poor officer's neck to compensate for the muzzle climb and fire a shot... The red mist behind the zombie's head confirms a successful kill. In retrospect, you think to yourself how a pistol is only good at close range, and as a secondary firearm... and that you should never dual wield ANYTHING like an idiot.
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2010-07-14, 09:32 | Link #23 | |
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In other words handguns are not easy to shoot, despite what you see on TV and movies, it takes so much more to keep steady aim, breathing control and trigger control for precision shooting. Not ideal for amateurs. The longer sight radius and stability of rifles/carbines/shotguns are much easier. But back to the point, pistol caliber carbines ARE easy to acquire and easy to find ammo for (hell every local Wal-Mart near where I live is a prime example). Probably the best compromise of firepower and ease of use. Bottom line there's no need for large caliber rifle ammunition. You don't need to blow a zombies head off at 300 yards with a 7.62 round or .308. They're not a threat at those distances. Did I mention that several magazines of rifle ammunition is *censored* heavy?! And another thing, even in America, you'd be hard pressed to find full automatic weapons. Class III weapons are VERY expensive and not well circulated. A transferable MP5 costs more than some cars! Sorry to hijack the thread a little but since this anime seems to have a lot of gun pr0n in it I'd thought I'd post a few tidbits of info. Last edited by Darsovin; 2010-07-14 at 09:48. |
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2010-07-14, 09:33 | Link #24 | ||||||
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Though I think if you're finding lots of dead soldiers you might as well kiss your ass goodbye. If trained soldiers working together are getting killed you and your untrained buddies can kiss your ass goodbye. It seems like a good idea until you realize why most armies don't use drum magazines. They have a higher failure rate than boxed magazines. This is especially dangerious if you're a rookie who doesn't have allot of experiance with firearms. Quote:
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M14's extra range is ussually not going to be needed in a tight urban environment (though you should have someone in the group with a longer range weapon). Also, any extra stopping power the heavier 7.62x51mm nato has is kind of lost by the fact a headshot from a 5.56X45mm nato will kill a zed just as much as your 7.62mm would have. Body shots are so ineffective it's not even worth considering with anything short of explosives or heavy weapons. Of course you're certainly going to take anything you can get your hands on. Quote:
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2010-07-14, 09:34 | Link #25 | |
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Is this some kind of a roleplay?
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2010-07-14, 09:50 | Link #27 |
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all that firearms talk is all cute and awesome. But that applies to people who lives in countries that doesn't have strict anti-firearms laws, like USA.
And what about us? Europeans like British and Frenchmen? Watch Shaun of the Dead and witness the almighty improvised weaponry that europeans will have to get their hands on. Watch Sheb and his ALMIGHTY MOP, or let's make an improvised polearm with the kitchen knife or meat cleaver with the shaft of the mop and the Power of Duct Tape! Seriously, IF I was on that situation, I would just stealth (meaning, run the fck away from zombies like a little b*tch) and raid for supplies, and try to reach that game hunting shop that have some crossbow. I say stealth and run, because I am aware I am no Leon Kennedy who suplexes zombies, I am not that Finnish sniper either. I am just an ordinary guy whose only quality is running rather fast, skill gained from running from thugs and bullies. LOL. Last edited by Sheba; 2010-07-14 at 09:59. Reason: added stuff |
2010-07-14, 10:14 | Link #28 | |
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(Although the Swiss may be in a better situation than the USA overall. Not as many guns per capita, but more will be military rifles. Plus the distribution and proficiency will be higher due to the whole mandated rifle ownership for militia duty). Nice knowing you Frenchy?(Corrected) Though I'm not sure how fair it is to throw England in with France. France seems to have about five to six times the number of firearms per citizen than England has. So I guess you don't have it all bad. |
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2010-07-14, 10:18 | Link #29 |
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speaking of zombies and how seems every zombie movie always has that mythical place where it is zombie free that people all try to flock to
how would like some place like in the mountains or like alaska or something in winter time. you know would their bodies freeze and quit on them being out in the cold? i know they seem to not feel anything, but their bodies would still freeze and die right? |
2010-07-14, 10:19 | Link #30 | |
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2010-07-14, 10:20 | Link #31 |
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They do not die (as they are already dead) but really cold places are preferable as their bodies freeze and they can't move. However, when (if) the snow thaws, they can get up and walk again. This is why these places can often be very dangerous. No one knows what might be hidden beneath the snow.
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2010-07-14, 10:22 | Link #32 | |
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Take a look to Christopher McCandless to see how someone who lacked proper preparation and skills fared living naturally out in the Alaskan bush. |
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2010-07-14, 10:41 | Link #33 |
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Cricket bats, mate For those of us in Australia we'd probably escape to the outback. I cannot say more than that until next week.
Now I wonder what would someone like Simo Hayha do to survive zombie apocalypse...
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2010-07-14, 11:42 | Link #34 |
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Stuff availiable at my home: bokken, broom, kitchen knives and meat cleavers, imitation kaatana and the bass guitar.
Now that I think about it, the bass guitar is for when I get really desperate and want to go down in the most METAL way possible, smashing zombs with a heavy instrument. The imitation katana on the other hand is just a joke. |
2010-07-14, 11:46 | Link #35 |
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If a zombie apocalypse ever broke out I would rather be in the US than here in Europe. Why? Three simple facts:
1 - Guns are easy to get hold of in the USA. It's not that we can't get weapons here in Europe but they are under lock and key in small specialty shops and most people don't own them. In the US many people have guns and as such ammo is particularly easy to come by. Also the M1 rifle is the best zombie killing tool, just check the guide 2 - The US has vast amounts of open country untouched by civilization, something Europe hasn't had much for a while and as others have said: the first thing you should do to survive is get away from civilization. 3 - US Cities also have usually a lot more open space than Europe's cities. That's at least true outside the areas with large skyscrapers. There, more slight off-topic... Should we get a Zombie Survival Thread going?
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2010-07-14, 11:55 | Link #36 | |
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That is true. Would make urban combat a little safer. |
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2010-07-14, 12:32 | Link #37 | |
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My personal load out would be my Remington 870 Tactical shotgun, bandolier full of 00 buckshot, and my .45 Kiimber Custom TLE II 1911. God bless America Hopefully soon. Since it's gonna be a while before the next ep for "relevant" discussion to take place. |
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2010-07-14, 13:13 | Link #38 | |
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I agree with Roger Rambo that a 5.56mm NATO is probably all the rifle you need. Excellent penetration, lighter weight (more carry), and VERY LITTLE recoil. Makes shot placement and follow up shots much easier. One of these days I'm gonna get a hold of a Bushmaster ACR or FN Scar in 5.56. |
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2010-07-14, 13:22 | Link #39 | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine I'm happy there's a book confirming my idea of using this rile According to the wikipedia, it's pretty dam light, and small! Perfect for the average person to shoot zombies in the head. |
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2010-07-14, 13:31 | Link #40 | |
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In places like Canada where temperatures are much colder so long as you have shelter to stay dry and out of the wind and wear heavy clothing you could probably stay there (like camping) |
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