2010-11-20, 06:29 | Link #22 |
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probably it's because it's ineffective in battle? by molding its fire and hook it to the top of ceiling or anything to 'fly', maybe he could not attack his opponent as he can only make one attribute of fire every time?
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2010-11-20, 17:51 | Link #23 |
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Maybe it just doesn't mesh with his preferred fighting style. He did make that big fist in the Phantom arc to stop Jupiter, but it's not something he uses much versus individual opponents. Probably would just rather jump into it punching and kicking directly.
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Honestly Natsu Dragoneel is one of the lamest, plainest, uninteresting and cliche shounen heroes of all time because nothing he does moves the plot or brings something interesting to the story and all he does is fill space to meet the quota for a shounen fight or male main character when Lucy is the main character.
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And name me one unqiue thing that Natsu has done that Goku and Luffy haven't done. Only reason he's the main character because Erza is with him all the time and she's the reason this manga is popular. Otherwise, this guy isn't the reason Fairy Tail is successful. |
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2010-11-22, 10:06 | Link #26 | ||
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2010-11-22, 11:05 | Link #29 | |
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But in the mean time, he's still below the most powerful people in his world. Many of his fights involve tangible aid from his friends to turn the tide of an even battle, or outright teamwork to be able to defeat stronger foes. Personally I find it rather fitting that a manga that has "friends are awesome" as a theme has such meaningful contributions from the main character's friends in battle. Some people take this as evidence that Natsu is weak, but I find that those people tend to not only utterly dismiss fodder, but also ignore that when you're roughly equal to a bunch of people, sometimes you'll beat them, sometimes they'll beat you, and some match ups are better than others. |
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2010-11-22, 13:03 | Link #30 | |
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Just a suggestion. At any rate, yes, Natsu does have some fairly typical shounen traits, but those aren't a bad thing. It's all in the execution. Just like tropes; every story in existence has tropes, so there's nothing really new. It's all in how the writer makes use of those tropes that determines whether the story is entertaining (and also personal tastes). |
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Luffy: Pirate aiming for world domination. While he has the whole "nakama" thing carved to his bones, he's mostly in goofy/eater mode and is weak most of the time. Natsu: A mage looking for his lost dragon mentor. Never loses a fight, seeks out the character of his enemies while fighting, the only thing in common with Luffy is that they both care about their friends. Oh yeah I can totally see how he's a god damn RIP OFF! Quote:
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2010-11-24, 17:30 | Link #33 | |
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2010-11-26, 16:18 | Link #36 |
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Fairy Tail long outclassed Phantom Lord - their quality of the top 4 was significantly higher. I mean, Fairy Tail's 'A-class' mages took out Phantom's top S-class mages - if that doesn't show the difference in power, I don't know what could.
The reason Natsu beat Gajeel is simple - Natsu is stronger. Remember, he went through Phantom's Totomaru (Fire) and then got tossed around by Aria before Ezra psyched him up to go after Gajeel and save Lucy. Why was he stronger? He's been constantly fighting against Ezra, Grey, Elfman, and all of them for years. Who has Gajeel had to challenge him in such a way? The Elemental Four? Maybe but they didn't seem like the type to challenge each other in order to get stronger - and given Gajeel's perchant for over-the-top violence, he doesn't make the best sparring partner either. There's also what they believe in. We all know Natsu believes in 'nakama' and 'the bonds of friendship' - it's what makes Fairy Tail what it is.
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Ichigo's fights > Natsu's
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2010-12-01, 18:58 | Link #40 |
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Ichigo's typical fights: 1) Gets shit kicked out of him/ in worst case even killed 2) Barely even scratches his opponents 3) Suddenly we hear loud "KUROSAKI-KUUUUN!" and Duracel finally kicks into his butt 4) Suddenly for no real reason Ichigo comes back to life, is all healthy and kicks the bad guy like if he was nothing... WHA THE HELL HAPPENED TO GROUND KISSING HE DID SEVERAL SECONDS AGO???!!! Sorry, but Ichigo's fights are the most boring I have ever seen! Each time his fight happens you are like "Oh come on! Orihime, scream already and save the time for us!" and "WOW! That was... Getsuga Tenshou -_-" Natsu also gets shit kicked out of him, but so far none of the fights looked that critical.
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