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- Quality control (teleports vanishing ships and so on)
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You can't just toss girls doing "cute stuff" with Kancolle because it just doesn't have such appeal. Quote:
Unlike the Akatsuki DD, the torpedo cruisers are basically in their own little world with little to no interaction with the rest.
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And what was the meaning of your post? Frankly, mentioning Idolmaster is quite off if you ask me.
I'm not surprised people would prefer a full season similar to episode 6, but that would be quite detrimental considering the franchise itself is more than just cute ships doing cute stuff. Likewise, going all drama/grimdark would be ridiculous as well. The key is to find a balance there, which was obviously not succeeded in the anime starting the second half.
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2015-03-25, 15:20 | Link #27 |
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I can see the reason why they don't have admiral is simply because the want to have better girl on girl dynamic. Adding admiral probably going to make that relationship complicated.
But I agree that they can learn 1 - 2 thing from Cinderella girl. Like try to focus on group of popular girl instead trying to shoehorn as much girl as they can.
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2015-03-25, 16:10 | Link #29 |
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I like the idea of more to the anime although I hope they improve in some of the problems I see with first season:
*Focus on a smaller cast and/or have more episodes if they want a bigger cast. *Have a more serious tone, at least in the part that is supposed to be so, like the battles. *Less fanservice for the gamers and more establishing their own story, explaining things about the universe for example. *Either have the admiral be an actual characters or take him out. This last point can be problematic as it would be strange if they had him appear out of nowhere, but then the next animation could happen in a different base where some of the girls from season 1 got transferred to (in case they don't want to focus on completely new characters). In that case, rather than having an admiral, they could have Nagato to be the commander instead (which for the anime watchers she actually was for a good part of the season). But having the admiral being off screen but with Kongou and other girls talking about him often, the last few episodes strategy being all about his plans, it just don't work, in my opinion.
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Bring back the Teitoku, he got his internet connection back up, reaped the event awards. I demand we see his face! and voiced by a good seiyuu like Jouji Nakata!
Actually, bring in multiple Teitokus, for different naval bases. Here's my requirements 1. voiced by Akira Ishida for troll Teitoku 2. Jouji is serious, badass teitoku 3. Female ummm...I'll leave it to you.
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2015-03-25, 17:23 | Link #32 | |
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Because after trolling us with the TTK''s half existance, TTK should better have a huge presence after surviving that boot bomb to the head, if he ever apppeares.
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2015-03-25, 17:35 | Link #34 |
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The sensible thing to do would be to abandon this total train wreck a la Xenoglossia, pretend it never exists, and adapt the official 4 koma into anime. But then they aren't known to be sensible.
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2015-03-25, 18:07 | Link #36 |
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Idols operating mechas, by itself, is fine. Everyone rejoiced to see the Arcadia segment in IM@S ep.15. The problem with Xenoglossia, at least from my PoV, is the scriptwriter saw it fit to put characters with pre-established backgrounds into an entirely different role and world, with little resemblance beyond names and visuals, which created extremely strong dissonance in viewers' mind. Which brings me back to Kancolle anime. We got characters that suffered from flanderization. Mechanics got twisted. They insert drama for drama sake. Other than characters and the use of some proper nouns, Kancolle anime bears no resemblance to Kancolle the game that I play.
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2015-03-25, 18:27 | Link #40 |
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We need a scriptwriter who actually played the game and not too creative by half. I don't want you to rub your original storyline in my face every 30 seconds, especially when your plot is neither novel nor good. I'll go so far as to say Kancolle anime doesn't need a plot. The scriptwriters need to stop pretending that they got a serious story to tell, because it is very obvious by now that they are incapable of pulling it off. The show would benefit immensely if the Kisaragi siniking plot were dropped entirely.
My point is less about literal resemblance eg a faceless figure sitting behind a desk, and more about resemblance of the logic within the game. I don't want to see a Teitoku that sits there and do nothing. Imagine youself as a Teitoku inside the game. You will be there to oversee equipment development, and the result depends on the recipe you use; you will be there to welcome your fleets home, then resupply and repair them; you are fully responsible for any ship lost, or put it in the other way, you are fully capable of making sure not a single ship sinks. What you do ingame decides what you get out of it. Compare that with what we see in the anime. His existence and disappearance doesn't matter at all. His action, if there's any, doesn't affect outcome in the same way your action would affect the outcome in game. That's what I mean by dissonance: the character they want to me to invest in and immerse in, doesn't to things that I would have done, nor produced the results that I would expect. Last edited by Academus; 2015-03-25 at 18:53. |
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