2012-07-10, 12:10 | Link #22 |
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Apparently BT haven't translated the author note in vol10 anyway... but this is an excerpt from chinese translation sites
"...尤其是關于最後『對決』,那雖然是四處可以窺見兩系列之間關聯性的作品,但作為作者,我現在要立于 《兩部作品並無明確的聯系》這一立場上" Especially considering [Versus], although that's a work where you can see the correlation/links between the two series, but as the author, I will state now my position that "There are no clear link between the two series" |
2012-07-10, 19:10 | Link #25 | |
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So having said that, AW and SAO could simply be very similar universes. Of course, the author saying that there's no clear link between the two could mean that he's giving himself space to change his mind later without having to retcon stuff. |
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2012-07-10, 19:19 | Link #26 | |
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2012-07-10, 19:23 | Link #27 | |
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Anyway, SAO already has already ended (web version), so I'll ask yet another person to see if there's anything noteworthy in the epilogue and the ending (I'm not expecting there to be there, though). |
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2012-07-10, 19:53 | Link #29 | |
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But eh, there may be some clues about the two worlds in it. |
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2012-07-10, 20:07 | Link #30 | |
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2012-07-10, 21:57 | Link #32 |
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Here's a comparison/contrast topic. I'm growing more and more amazed at just how ignorant some people have been regarding Accel World since SAO aired in their mad rush to proclaim the later the second coming of Jesus. One would think that SAO being popular would encourage people to actually check out Accel World a little more, but it seems like I kind of expected it's basically had the opposite effect and caused people to proclaim it as more or less obsolete. It really is a shame as it really strikes pretty much the same notes with me that SAO did in it's first episode of "wow this has the potential to be really interesting and go places with it's concept". Guess some people really just can't get past the fact that the main character is short and fat and has a lot of attractive girls surrounding him.
I really do seriously wonder if it was SAO that had the fat character and AW the one with the average build if the situation wouldn't be reversed. |
2012-07-11, 02:02 | Link #33 | |
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Yet, I don't think I can deny the possibility that if kirito's and haruyuki's positions were switched, the situation might reverse to some extent. |
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2012-07-11, 02:37 | Link #34 |
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Both of them are really different persons in their outlook.
Kirito is more or less a a guy with a decent relationship with friends/family who doesn't have the low self esteem issues that Haru has. In fact, I doubt Haru's avatar really is as pudgy as it looks - notice that he's drawn in a rougher style (one that strongly reminds me of colour pencils and older 90s anime) compared to everyone else. It's like Sunako, who always appears to herself as an SD Sadako clone, but is really Tall Dark and Bishoujo. The story is told from Haru's perspective, and Haru's self image is strongly skewed. Yes, he is probably pudgy and yes he probably isn't a bish, but he isn't that ugly. As for whether Kirito and Asuna are Kuroyukihime's parents, I posted some thoughts on that earlier, but as Aprah reminded me, if she was in the hospital, they would have come to see her. I see the relationship between SAO and AW as that of The Hunt for Red October and Red Storm Rising. Both are separate verses but strongly influenced each other - Bob Toland, for example, is an expy of Jack Ryan. Or the connection between Dance in the Vampire Bund and Ne-to-ge: Lovers in Cyberspace, both drawn by the same author, who reused the designs of male and female lead in Lovers for the male and female lead in Dance. (Their daughter's design got reused for male lead's yaoi fangirl childhood friend.) Separate verses, but influenced by each other thanks to the author's mind. And maybe KYH was intended to be a combo Kirito/Asuna shoutout by the Author, who having failed to get SAO published properly, decided to make a quiet shout out to a series he really liked.
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2012-07-11, 06:45 | Link #36 | |
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Heh, it's fine. Don't worry about it. |
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2012-07-11, 07:11 | Link #37 | |
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On the other hand, Haruyuki is clearly the sub-ordinate one in his relationship with KYH. And even in terms of personality, his maturity seems out of sync with KYH. So, one is left wondering what KYH sees in him, other than quick reflexes? Absolute Loyalty? Perhaps, bit still, that rankles people, especially in a decade with a horde of weak minded male protagonists that gave rise to the derisive moniker Generic Harem Protagonist. Spoiler for Too... hintish:
Ultimately though, I fear that in the next few episodes, Asuna will be labeled as a typical Tsundere by the hardcore moe haters, as absurd and prejudiced as that charge seems. But that's another conversation. for another thread. |
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2012-07-11, 10:24 | Link #38 | ||
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I think a good example is the first or second episode of the 2nd arc, when Haruyuki visits KYH in the hospital and she arranges her hair the way that Haruyuki said he liked the most. Haruyuki's lack of skill in talking to someone of the opposite gender certainly contributed to the misunderstanding and KYH's sour mood, it was because of his self-perceived subordinate role that he chose not to further disagree with KYH and clear up the misunderstanding by telling her what he actually thought. If Kirito and Asuna were put into the same situation, Kirito would've been more firm in his assertions--that he didn't only compliment her cause she got mad and that Asuna looks lovely and would look lovely in his eyes with any hairstyle.
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