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2014-04-04, 11:58 | Link #25 | |
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Regrowth is near instant even with limitations, Mist Dispersion disintegrates everything, limited or not, ES is not limited. He is able to spam counter magic with his hand or with a CAD because his psion count is way above anyone. The fight against Masaki was a game with power limitations, his life wasn't threatened, against Lina he didn't held back. Without limiters it wouldn't change a thing since he would have not used MB, he hadn't even Third Eye. He used it in vol 11 as well(with limitations). And flight magic isn't very important since it''s not his power, everybody with the device can use it. |
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2014-04-04, 12:05 | Link #26 | |
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2014-04-04, 12:26 | Link #27 | ||
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As for his fights with Lina, I don't know if you can completely say he wasn't holding back considering he wasn't trying to kill her at any point, he didn't even really want to fight her. That's different from her being hesitant about it, that's just her not being hardened enough. Quote:
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2014-04-04, 12:54 | Link #28 | |
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For the fight against Lina he said he didn't held back himself at the airport and since nobody wanted to kill, they had the same handicap. Tatsuya used her mental weakness to beat her. That's why I said that to really see how another of those OP magicians can compete against Tatsuya, it has to be a deadly fight. |
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2014-04-04, 16:39 | Link #29 |
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Well, if it's going to be a deadly fight, it has to be someone that isn't introduced to us for us to like like Lina. The head of the Saegusa might possibly be the first deadly fight he has against a competent magician that is near or even above his skill level.
(this is honestly one of the reasons why i was so annoyed that the Heavenly general just died from 1 spell without even fighting, i wanted to see him face against Tatsuya since they would both fight to the death and both are strategic class magicians) |
2014-04-04, 17:10 | Link #30 | |
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Let Tatsuya fight to the death with close combat magicians and lets leave the strategic magicians for use against large body and and group targeting. |
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2014-04-04, 17:12 | Link #31 | |
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2014-04-04, 22:25 | Link #32 | |
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Also, the whole setting is about magic in society. How magicians are used as weapons, and wonder what will Tatsuya do. He is OP, can destroy anything, and almost (if not) invincible, but those things are just some kind of "power". He has not the power to overrule the Yotsuba, nor to set himself free without any collateral damage to other people. Trying to make Tatsuya some kind of character that grows up in power it's not the purpose of this series. |
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2014-04-05, 09:54 | Link #33 |
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Tatsuya being too OP is an interesting arguement that you guys like to bring up. Yes Tatsuya has some incredibly powerful abilities, but their scope is limited, and Tatsuya is terrible at regular magic because of it. Just because he seems to have an insanely powerful ability, doesn't mean he is without weaknesses that can be (and have been) exploited.
From what I see the arguement always hinges on 2 of his magics. Material burst, and Regrowth. Material burst is insanely powerful, but there are other Magics that can be just as powerful. they just haven't been exposed to us yet since most strategic class magics and magicians are top secret. We do know that Miguel Diaz has one that can create a similar effect to the scorched halloween explosion. His regrowth Magic has the ability to instantly restore any injury he receives is really what makes him OP in a fight. But I'm sure that even this ability has a limot or weakness of some sort that hasn't been explained yet. Tats is a unique character because his strengths and weaknesses are pretty clearly defined. you could consider Miyuki OP, Juumonji definitely has the potential to be OP. I haven't even seen him break a sweat yet in his fights. Maya is probably OP as well as her magic strikes fear in the hearts of other magicians besides Tats who matches well against it. I think he is a powerful character, but not necessarily an over powered one. his Magic also has some that it is weak against, such as the juumonji barrier and if he is a bad match for someone, he doesn't have a powerful alternative magic to rely on because his is pretty one dimensional |
2014-04-05, 10:33 | Link #34 |
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Tatsuya may be strong, but his material burst is useless in a fight since even something as small as a droplet of water can create massive explosions.... well until we find out his regrowth makes him unkillable even if he uses material burst in his face.
Then he becomes a walking nuke zombie... haha He is stuck using only a select few types of magic, and aside from his counter-magic, we can consider them about as strong as if a average magician had used it, so nothing too frightening there. However, other high leveled magicians we have seen can use magics that Tatsuya can never use, and still be able to wield their own specialties freely, giving them a edge over Tatsuya. So far nobody who has that kind of prowess has fought Tatsuya seriously, which is why he probably didn't break a sweat. |
2014-04-05, 13:06 | Link #37 |
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Most of the scene in the OP tells us how powerful the other characters and the weight they carry on their shoulder but doesnt show OPness of Tatsuya. Thing that took my attention is really Erika. There wasnt a trace of magic but was able to apply flash step~
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2014-04-05, 20:13 | Link #39 |
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Is it really easy to stop Mist Dispersal? It seems like if Tatsuya sees you within a 1000m, he can disintegrate you into dust like what he did versus the sniper and the soldiers. It only doesn't work against Juumonji but that is only 1 person
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