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View Poll Results: Death Note Episode 7 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 73 | 56.15% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 38 | 29.23% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 9 | 6.92% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 3.08% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.54% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.77% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.31% | |
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2006-11-16, 16:51 | Link #21 |
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Join Date: May 2003
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Something tells me she isn't going to die -- Light left some major loopholes open to keep her from comitting suicide, and she's in the OP, right? She's important.
But for being so smart, paranoid enough to not give out her real name and having such advacned knowledge of Kira's capabilities -- to think she would just hand out her name to a stranger like that. Just unbelievable. |
2006-11-16, 17:49 | Link #23 | |
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Now, as for all the complaints of Light being too evil or bastard-ish, I have this to say. Good and evil are completely relative. All religious beliefs, all political philosophies, all morals you ever had ingrained upon you are subjects which are open to debate. Let's think of it this way for a moment: The world is already overcrowded, and some of those people crowding the world are making the world a worse place to live in than it already is. If one does not let one's emotional self interfere with judgment here, and leave your decision entirely up to logic, it makes complete sense to kill off these people. We just don't like it because we wouldn't want someone with a deathnote passing judgment on us, and because we begin to pity those who are killed. It's our (good) emotional side that doesn't like Light, not our logical side. The FBI agents Light killed because they were a hinderance to his mission, as he stated (at least in the manga) that if the investigation went on too long, he may come under suspicion. If Light came under suspicion, he would no longer be able to do his duty, and if he were to be placed under suspicion then, chances are there'd be a lot more people to kill if he were to get out of it and continue working towards his goal of ridding the world of evil. Naomi Misora was also, obviously, someone who could have prevented him from seeing the end of his "noble goal." These people are now just collateral damage who got in the way of trying to get rid of people who, in all reason, should probably be gotten rid of. Don't get me wrong here. I'm not going to endorse the killing of anyone in real life, the afore mentioned (good) moral side that exists within (most) people prevents me from doing so with a clean conscience. However, in a work of fiction, I feel that it's alright to judge with logic and not emotions when it comes to death. Say what you will about Light being evil, it really makes no difference. Hero or villain, sympathetic villain or anti-hero, he is doing that which is (in the world of Death Note) logical. ...I will admit to him having a God complex, but that's what makes me love his character. |
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2006-11-16, 18:38 | Link #24 |
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Join Date: May 2003
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Killing the FBI agents was completely pointless -- he had a rational motive for killing Naomi, as she posed a real threat to him, but Ray was completely harmless and Light knew that Ray didn't suspect him. If he let Ray live all that would have happened is that Ray would have reported that Light wasn't suspicious and that would be that. But Light went out of his way and put himself in grave danger to just so that he could kill them, and boy was he mightly pleased with himself after the fact. He was just Evil Glee Boy when he wasted Naomi, no contrition, no conflicting emotions, he was so happy he could't help but mock her on her way to grave.
And was it mentioned that the victim will die of a heart attack if impossible conditions of death were mentioned? I only remember that impossible pre-death conditions wouldn't happen, and if no specific cause of death is speified it was heart attack. So if it was: "Die while standing in the middle of the Atlantic ocean", you would die of a heart attack, but not in the middle of the ocean. So, if it was: "Go to a place only she and Ray knows and comit suicide," you will go to such a place and comitt suicide -- but if you try and suicide and someone stops you, will you die of a heart attack anyway? |
2006-11-16, 18:52 | Link #25 | |
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...And here I am, on an anime message board saying this. oo;;; Hm. That makes me a hypocrite, doesn't it? |
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2006-11-16, 19:00 | Link #26 | |
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The rest of the instructions are along the lines of "thinks up the best way to commit suicide that she can without bothering other people so that her body won't be discovered, dies in 48 hours". Spoiler for Light writing down Naomi's name and method of death:
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2006-11-16, 20:03 | Link #28 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 38
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Not only that, but they added the extra scene of 'Her' walking up the lil' stairs that appear at the end of the episode. Thats there just to show.. if you missed what Light wrote down, you'll know where she's heading.
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2006-11-17, 09:28 | Link #31 |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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On one hand, I can kinda understand that she got emotional and caved in, but on the other hand it just feels a little too convenient especially for a former FBI agent. She was determined to talk to L first but when Light came with that offer she suddenly changed her mind? Suuuuuuure.
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2006-11-17, 10:56 | Link #34 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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...Okay, I'm assuming that a lot of people haven't seen it with the subtitles, because a lot of the stuff that people are debating are answered if you knew what they were saying.
First of all, don't think that Naomi was just stupid and easily revealed her real name to Light, because it isn't like that. People might have forgotten, but Light is one HECK of a genius, probably one of the smartest person in Japan...Naomi herself was very smart too, but in the end the smarter one one. It wasn't that Naomi was dumb and Light got her easily. As for the episode...man, I don't know what but Naoko Matsui totally got me. I wasn't exactly a fan of Naomi in the manga, and probably disliked her in the movie...but in the anime, even knowing what is going to happen to her, I was praying for her to be fine. Misa is going to have to do quite a lot win back her throne as my "personal favorite female Death Note character". |
2006-11-17, 11:45 | Link #35 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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It wasn't a "random guy", but a guy who she was quite assured to be the son of the chief of Kira investigation group.
It isn't like he lured her outside, but was just taking a walk to kill some time so that when she returned, a member would've been back. He also never tried to convince her NOT to go back there, but just told her that the investigation members won't be at NPA. As for the receptionists...well, there is only so much they can do. Someone tells them that s/he has info about a suspect, but the guys in charge are not responding to the call. The receptionist offers to send a message to them, but she absolutely refuses, and only wants to tell it in person. Receptionists aren't capable of forcing her to stay forever waiting for a member they aren't sure when they are coming back. Lastly, returning to FBI wouldn't have necessarily helped the cause, as after the deaths I believe FBI told L that they won't be interfering with Kira anymore...so getting back her job wouldn't have done any good. Also, no one except Watari knows how to contact L (atleast, I thought so), so she can't contact L herself no matter what. Knowing for a fact that L is going to be sniffing around the Kanto area of Japan and the fact that the incident occurred in Japan as well makes it more efficient to attempt to contact L through the Japanese police. |
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Also, even if he was the SON, she still didn't know that he was apart of the investigation. Even if she had retired from the FBI, it's only been 3 months. She should have known better than to tell all that to some random stranger, especially when any of those random strangers could have been Kira. Quote:
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But being with the FBI, her getting in contact with them then, would have probably been a little bit more successful. |
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2006-11-17, 14:19 | Link #40 |
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Wow I can't remember a show where I've wanted a character (Light) to get killed off this badly. Which would be hard since he's the main character. But seriously the guy is about as twisted and disturbing as you can get. I really don't think this is about justice anymore, more like being about covering his tail and having fun killing people.
The first time he thought she had given her name he was completely interested in seeing how she'd die. The guy just gets kicks out of killing people, he's way worst than any of the criminals that are in jail or dead now. He's just out to kill people for fun and become some sort of god. Going on to tell her who he was, is going overboard. He didn't need to do that for any justice reason, he just got a thrill out of seeing the horror in her eyes. It's just too depressing to see nice people getting killed off just so this guy can get a thrill. |
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