2015-12-04, 03:56 | Link #21 | |
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Rush is focused on close-range anti-Object combat with a small support gimmick for land-combat only, that's enough for it to be bumped to 2nd gen. I agree with you that it is one of the tamer and more balanced 2nd gens, though. |
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2015-12-04, 16:13 | Link #22 | |
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However, if one were do develop a fighter that used the same bleeding-edge tech but eschewed stealth as anything beyond an ECM force multiplier and instead depended on active protection and point defense to survive enemy anti-air (and yes, this is totatlly something the math says you could do, and might be a better bet than pure stealth in the medium-term), you'd have even more uncertainly on the subject. Really, the fact that the generation gap here is devoid of any technological distinctions (say, if a gen-2 was required to used a magnetohydrodynamic generator rather than a turbine system with its fusion reactor) makes the whole thing a rather silly distinction. Off the top of my head, the only fully-consistent fictional generation system I can think of is the one for TSFs in Muv Luv Alternative/Unlimited, though the sheer simplicy helps; it's basically Gen-1: The Phantom Gen-2: What We Learned From The Phantom, a.k.a. every other model Gen-3: The Raptor. Accept no substitutes (though we probably should have ordered the YF-23 also; it was so different that they really weren't competing systems. It probably would have been perfect for the Marines if they were allowed to have shiny, expensive toys, but that's getting a bit off topic). In any case, the A-10 is far to terrifying for mere generation classification. +++ Though why is it that the Baby Magnum can float while the Gatling-33 can't? The appear of an air-cushion hovercraft is that it can move directly between solid and liquid surfaces. Baby Magnum's floats would have to displace a quarter-million cubic feet of water hold it up via buoyancy; it seems like it would be easier to give Rush modular auxiliary boosters to maintain its burst ability than to attach floats... |
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2015-12-04, 17:47 | Link #23 | |
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I agree that it might have been better if Kamachi had done clearer generation classifications. As I see it 1st gens are the old designs from when Objects had to fight everywhere and be capable of handling any threat/situation. The 1st gens that are still being fielded like the Baby Magnum are probably the last ones that were made before people stopped trying to fight Objects with anything but another Object and the designers started focusing on how to make their Objects superior to others.
I don't know much about Muv-Luv, I only watched the Total Eclipse anime because I was bored and a friend was nagging me about watching it. I liked the BETA's designs, though. It does seem like it has a clearer generation division. Quote:
I just realized this discussion doesn't really fit this thread. If you want to continue talking about Objects it's probably better if we move it to the Mech/Tech thread, though the LN thread might be better if you don't wanna have to use spoiler tags for all the LN stuff. Last edited by LazyHunter; 2015-12-04 at 18:47. |
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2015-12-11, 05:39 | Link #24 |
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Preview for episode 10. I had forgotten about that scene with Froleytia in the mess hall. At least her fans will be happy, I guess. It looks like it'll reach the amphibious assault. The middle of the chapter in the novels is the Break Carrier attack on the base zone, that would be a good cliffhanger point to end the episode in. If they can reach it, of course, since they have to explain the situation with the Mass Driver Conglomerate.
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2016-01-08, 14:05 | Link #35 | |
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2016-01-08, 19:38 | Link #37 |
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I'm looking forward to the battle against the traitor and I sincerely hope JC shows the diamonds shattering where they hit the metal and piercing only the non-metal areas of the powered suit.
But even more, I'm looking forward to Sladder. I like the guy. And I DEFINITELY like that they aren't actively cutting out everyone who isn't one of the five main characters on base any more. The mission in the Arctic looked ridiculous with everyone else cut out. Cookman, Myonri, and Westy appear in the OP! I liked these guys too. Last edited by Ab buster; 2016-01-08 at 21:50. |
2016-01-15, 05:10 | Link #39 |
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I don't know. The preview pics for episode 14 show Sladder and that's basically the end of the novel. After he shows ups there's only 1 part of Chapter 3 and the epilogue left. Maybe they added a scene with him before or they managed to strecth those two to fill an entire episode.
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